Let's all pray for Irvine

Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is not the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. Schumacher

Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:03 +0200, "Schumacher"

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>Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is not >the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs >him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes >too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate >Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he >will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. >Schumacher

I believe Irvine simply wants equality, which he can't get. He wants as good a car as Schumacher, he wants the team to support him, and he wants to be free from being told to lose to Schumacher. Irvine's negative comments about Schumacher are a perfectly human reaction to being told he is inferior and being humiliated by having to sign a contract which institutionalizes that situation, ie he is contractually obligated to lose to Schumacher. Nobody with the necessary ego of a racing driver should have to put up with that. No good racing driver could put up with that. F1 is a devil's trade. They let you drive the fastest high tech cars, they pay you a fortune, and they treat you like scum. Irvine should go to CART or even NASCAR, where all this nonsense is exactly that. Failing that, he should at least realize that the team can always sabotage him and there is no way to enforce what he wants. bob

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>Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when >Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his >contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him >if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what >goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. >On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:03 +0200, "Schumacher" >>Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is not >>the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs >>him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes >>too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate >>Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he >>will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. >>Schumacher

i think you should change your name so its not so close so schumis! the lords name should not be used likely my son.....

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> Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when > Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his > contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him > if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what > goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. > On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:03 +0200, "Schumacher" > >Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is

not > >the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs > >him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes > >too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate > >Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he > >will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. > >Schumacher

Please do not fill up this newsgroup with OT rants about Schumacher and Irvine. You have already filled rec.autos.sport.f1 with your sometimes offensive posts. take a pill (or several) Marc

Well *IF* schumacher returns I think that he would not want to spoil the WC for Irvine just because he has some lame ***like that in his contract (if he really has that clause). If that clause is in his contract I would think it is intended for him if he is leading the WC and has a shot at the title. Otherwise I would be pissed too if I were Irvine. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when >Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his >contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him >if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what >goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. >On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:03 +0200, "Schumacher" >>Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is not >>the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs >>him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes >>too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate >>Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he >>will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. >>Schumacher

Sorry about that - I take back the bit about offensive posts on RASf1 I got you confused with someone else :) I still think it might be better to keep the posts on topic though - such a strongly worded and opinionated posting is only going to create a thread of arguments and negative replies. RASf1 would be a far better place for this post if you really felt the need to get it off your chest :) Marc

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> Please do not fill up this newsgroup with OT rants about Schumacher and > Irvine. > You have already filled rec.autos.sport.f1 with your sometimes offensive > posts. > take a pill (or several) > Marc > > Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is > not > > the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who

needs > > him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher > makes > > too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I > hate > > Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he > > will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. > > Schumacher

Eddie said at yesterdays press conference that he didn't say those things about Shumi. Just a reporter trying to stirr things up.

Until the end of the season Irvine will be driver number one, cause Schumacher now has no more chances to win, but next year Irvine wants to be driver number one again, but I wonder who Ferrari will rather have, Schumi or Irvine? And Ferrari wanted to get rid of Irvine anywise, Barrichello will probably be Schumacher's sidekick next season, but until then let's hope Irvine doesn't disappoint us. Anyways I have to watch the qualifying now. (You know who I would rather have) Schumacher

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> Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when > Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his > contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him > if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what > goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. > On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:03 +0200, "Schumacher" > >Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is

not > >the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who needs > >him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher makes > >too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I hate > >Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he > >will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. > >Schumacher

What the *** are u talking about? I don't want to be blamed for something I never did. I never went o re.autos.sport.f1. Schumacher

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> Please do not fill up this newsgroup with OT rants about Schumacher and > Irvine. > You have already filled rec.autos.sport.f1 with your sometimes offensive > posts. > take a pill (or several) > Marc > > Irvine is one son of a ***. He tells Ferrari that if next season he is > not > > the number one driver of the team he will quit Ferrari, (anyways who

needs > > him?) cause he says that he is better than Schumacher cause Schumacher > makes > > too many mistakes. What the *** is he talking about? Anyways even if I > hate > > Irvine, I still what Ferrari to win, so let's all wish good luck cause he > > will need a lot if it, just as much as he had in Austria and Germany. > > Schumacher

> I believe Irvine simply wants equality, which he can't get. >He wants as good a car as Schumacher, he wants the team to support >him, and he wants to be free from being told to lose to Schumacher. Irvine has had equal equipment since 97 on, in fact he even has a lot more testing time than Schumacher and still he's never (with maybe one exception) been able to reach him under race conditions. He's just in different league and apparently lost any sense of reality due to those last two, very lucky wins. I don't think it's a 'perfectly human reaction' to slag off his entire team as well as his team mate who can't do anything at the moment due to injury in public after all what they have done for him. Without them he'd still be the nobody who'd only be remembered as the idiot who once got punched by Senna for his driving style. --Tel

>Beg to differ but the way I read it he want to be the # 1 driver when >Schumacher returns later this season. Schumacher has it in his >contract that his teammate is prohibited from finishing ahead of him >if both are still running , and are running 1-2. I love F1 but what >goes on really makes you scratch your head sometimes. Yeah, the #1 driver ***bugs me sometimes. Like when Coulthard had to let Mika pass a couple of years ago after Mika's pit crew screwed up. You'd NEVER see that in Cart or Nascar. Even though I like Mika, I think it screwed Coulthard out a win he deserved... Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Which a dejanews search seems to verify but really... this is *way* OT for this NG. On the other hand, there are lots of people who would like to join you in Irvine-trashing on rasf1 and lots of people to argue with. Put on the Nomex and have a ball. Dale. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- - Return address invalid - Please share your reply with the newsgroup - If you must reply: dwconcepts at home dot com -------------------------------------------------------

How many times over the past few days have you posted messages containing this exact phrase? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.bromley-fc.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

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>> I believe Irvine simply wants equality, which he can't get. >>He wants as good a car as Schumacher, he wants the team to support >>him, and he wants to be free from being told to lose to Schumacher. >Irvine has had equal equipment since 97 on, in fact he even has a lot >more testing time than Schumacher and still he's never (with maybe one >exception) been able to reach him under race conditions. He's just in >different league and apparently lost any sense of reality due to those >last two, very lucky wins.

Hmm. According to Autosport, Irvine had only one day testing the 99 spec car before this season. I also don't remember Irv slagging off Schumy. From what I hear, his version of who's who in F1 reads like this: Schumacher, Irv, everyone else. He slags off others (especially fellow brits, for some reason), but not Schumacher. I agree that he's an idiot, though. Can't stand him myself. Cheers, Mark Reading, UK

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