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GPL my idiocy at 'Ring'

8 posts by 5 people · 07 Aug 1999 - 11 Aug 1999

Just had an amusing incident at the ring in an offline race. I was pootling along waaay behind the pack (I hardly ever race there - it's just too hard - I've never lapped there without going off and I've never got under 10 mins).... Anyway, I had one of my all too frequent "moments" which ended with the car going head over heels but landing all four wheels on the road. I seemed to be going more or less OK so I carried on - sort of testing the suspension and driving slowly. I was a bit surprised to find that the flag guys were all frantically waving yellows at me. So I was extra cautious thinking there was an incident up ahead.... but after about five nothing was going on so I put my foot down..... and inevitably spun wrecking the car. Shift R and I see the flag guy turn his flag to green... Fair enough and off I go. Another minute or so of struggling round and I had a third "big off" - at exactly the same place as my first. Somehow I'd got turned around in the first crash and managed to drive backwards for a few miles completely oblivious. No wonder those marshalls had their yellow flags out :-) Guess I really need to learn this track better. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
John Bodin 07 Aug 1999#484559
I've had similar experiences (not with driving backwards accidentally on-line, but with generally embarrassing myself on a track that I'm only vaguely familiar with). It would be interesting if GPL would somehow track the number of laps you've completed on each track, then use this number to determine what tracks you're eligible to race at on-line, and at what difficulty level. I know there are four or five tracks in GPL that I'm very comfortable with, but beyond that, there may be a few more that I've had *some* experience with, but by and large, I probably don't know the rest of the tracks well enough to try competing at them on-line. I often find myself "learning" a track (or trying to re-memorize where the corners are) during the practice period, which really puts me at a disadvantage -- and it also makes me a potential hazard to the drivers who know the track and are there to race. So what's the answer? I know we should all be honest with ourselves and simply avoid the tracks we don't know, but I'd rather practice on-line with others if possible, just to get used to the on-line experience. There is an answer, I think: What I usually do is stay in during the practice period, and if I'm too far off the pace, or too uncomfortable with my recall of the track, turn-in points, braking points, etc., then I simply exit before the actual race starts. That way I get some experience on-line with other racers, I get to become more familiar with new tracks, and I don't get in anybody else's way in competition. I'm fairly new to the on-line racing experience, but I have to say that everybody was right -- GPL's on-line *** IS the wave of the future. VROC is the icing on the cake, though -- sims that provide on-line racing via the Internet MUST have a site like VROC to serve as a central rallying point. Without something like VROC, it's just too hard to find people to race with. -- JB Just had an amusing incident at the ring in an offline race. I was pootling along waaay behind the pack (I hardly ever race there - it's just too hard - I've never lapped there without going off and I've never got under 10 mins).... Anyway, I had one of my all too frequent "moments" which ended with the car going head over heels but landing all four wheels on the road. I seemed to be going more or less OK so I carried on - sort of testing the suspension and driving slowly. I was a bit surprised to find that the flag guys were all frantically waving yellows at me. So I was extra cautious thinking there was an incident up ahead.... but after about five nothing was going on so I put my foot down..... and inevitably spun wrecking the car. Shift R and I see the flag guy turn his flag to green... Fair enough and off I go. Another minute or so of struggling round and I had a third "big off" - at exactly the same place as my first. Somehow I'd got turned around in the first crash and managed to drive backwards for a few miles completely oblivious. No wonder those marshalls had their yellow flags out :-) Guess I really need to learn this track better. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
: I've had similar experiences (not with driving backwards accidentally : on-line, but with generally embarrassing myself on a track that I'm only : vaguely familiar with). Should emphasise that I was playing OFFline. Wouldn't think of racing the ring on line - I'm enough of a danger to the racing public on tracks I know. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
John Bodin 07 Aug 1999#484561
: I've had similar experiences (not with driving backwards accidentally : on-line, but with generally embarrassing myself on a track that I'm only : vaguely familiar with). Should emphasise that I was playing OFFline. Wouldn't think of racing the ring on line - I'm enough of a danger to the racing public on tracks I know. AH! My mistake, Richard -- I thought it was during on-line play that this happened. As for on-line play, I embarrass myself there regularly! (Apologies to all -- just think of me as your "Hiro") -- JB -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Neil Raine 09 Aug 1999#484838
Quoted text (7 lines)> : I've had similar experiences (not with driving backwards accidentally > : on-line, but with generally embarrassing myself on a track that I'm only > : vaguely familiar with). > Should emphasise that I was playing OFFline. Wouldn't think of racing > the ring on line - I'm enough of a danger to the racing public on tracks > I know.
I only wish I *could* race on-line at the Ring - every time I try it the frame rate is so horrendous that I'm forced to give up. I think it's because the track is so huge that it fills all the available memory (32mb) and it ends up disc-swapping at various points round the track. I've only ever had a decent frame rate in training mode, and did get down to 8:45 before the lure of on-line racing was too much and I had to move to other tracks. The Ring just gets better and better the more you learn it - I can see how you end up dreaming about it!
: The Ring just gets better and better the more you learn it - I can see : how you end up dreaming about it! indeed! i get 8:30's at the ring but have never raced it properly (off line). i'm currently mid-season in a championship, i won last night at silverstone, and tonight i get to face the ring. i can't wait, but i'm also dreading it! odd practice note. in carroll smith's books he tells a story of a driver who would sit in a chair in his hotel room, eyes shut, and do a few laps, moving arms and feet, and making the engine noises too. it was one of his ways of practicing, and he would consistently get the timing of laps to within 1/10th sec. of his real lap times. today i was stuck in a boring meeting, and did the ring like this a couple of times, but without steering and the noises :-) but both times i 'woke up' at flugplatz. when you're dreaming, do you always wake up just as the car lands? and if you don't? martin. --
Neil Raine 09 Aug 1999#484840
Quoted text (13 lines)> : The Ring just gets better and better the more you learn it - I can see > : how you end up dreaming about it! > indeed! i get 8:30's at the ring but have never raced it properly > (off line). i'm currently mid-season in a championship, i won last > night at silverstone, and tonight i get to face the ring. i can't wait, > but i'm also dreading it! > odd practice note. in carroll smith's books he tells a story of a > driver who would sit in a chair in his hotel room, eyes shut, and do a > few laps, moving arms and feet, and making the engine noises too. it > was one of his ways of practicing, and he would consistently get the > timing of laps to within 1/10th sec. of his real lap times.
That reminds me of the (British) joke: "Why do Irish planes have windscreen wipers on the inside?" ... It also sounds like some kind of GPL-dementia - the ultimate fate for those who spend too much time at the wheel!
Sam Senior 11 Aug 1999#485242
Quoted text (7 lines)>: The Ring just gets better and better the more you learn it - I can see >: how you end up dreaming about it! >indeed! i get 8:30's at the ring but have never raced it properly >(off line). i'm currently mid-season in a championship, i won last >night at silverstone, and tonight i get to face the ring. i can't wait, >but i'm also dreading it!
I got down to 8:37.20 this week, still a fairly conservative lap, i.e. minimizing the Flugplatz jump. I'm discovering that it's best to stay in a lower gear in the uphill sections, watching the revs and not shifting up until you have to. Also, learning to improve the jump speed by increasing throttle just as it takes off, to land better. I, too, run a tape of the ring thru my head when lying in bed. Congrats on Silverstone win, I have not pulled that off yet!! : ) Sam

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