ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. So, if anyone her is is using the CAT 3.9 drivers with the same vidcard as myself with GPL, I'd like to hear what settings (ATI and GPL) you run GPL at and if you notice the same thing. Or, if anyone has any suggestions to try to make the image improve, I'd appreciate that as well. Thanks.

After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. So, if anyone her is is using the CAT 3.9 drivers with the same vidcard as myself with GPL, I'd like to hear what settings (ATI and GPL) you run GPL at and if you notice the same thing. Or, if anyone has any suggestions to try to make the image improve, I'd appreciate that as well. Thanks.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. >I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that out. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X each. Andrew wrote:

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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > out. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X each.

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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > out. > -- > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <"bhoenig<no- spam>"@comcast.net> says...

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> Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X > each. > > > Andrew wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > > <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new > > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges > > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > > > > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > > out.

There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work. http://tinyurl.com/x4fx (Rage3D message board thread on games that do not work with AA) -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

> There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work. Well that bites. I haven't tried GPL lately, but FSAA worked fine with GPL in earlier Cats. rms

Well, that sucks. Thanks for the info, though. I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). I read somewhere that 3.8 had problems, as well. Michael R Sisson wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <"bhoenig<no- > spam>"@comcast.net> says... > > Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X > > each. > > > > > > Andrew wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > > > <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new > > > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > > > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges > > > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > > > > > > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > > > out. > > There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work. > > http://tinyurl.com/x4fx (Rage3D message board thread on games that do > not work with AA) > > -- > MRSisson > > LOAD "GPL",8,1 > RUN

Well, that sucks. Thanks for the info, though. I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). I read somewhere that 3.8 had problems, as well.

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> > Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X > > each. > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new > > > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > > > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges > > > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > > > out. > There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work. > http://tinyurl.com/x4fx (Rage3D message board thread on games that do > not work with AA) > -- > MRSisson > LOAD "GPL",8,1 > RUN

BRH wrote: > Well, that sucks. Thanks for the info, though. > > I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). I read somewhere that > 3.8 had problems, as well. I use the 3.8's with no problems at all.

> I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). Try here: http://www.driverheaven.net/downloads/index2.htm Theyhave all the driver releases. Dave

Or here www.guru3d.com "Lawman_02766" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). > > > Try here: > > http://www.driverheaven.net/downloads/index2.htm > > Theyhave all the driver releases. > > > Dave

You might try the Omega drivers Bert. http://www.omegacorner.com/index_ati.html You might send him an email about your issue. "BRH @comcast.net>" <"bhoenig<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, that sucks. Thanks for the info, though. > > I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them). I read somewherethat > 3.8 had problems, as well. >

The reason I won't switch to ATI despite the nice hardware design. Half the software on my system has one problem or another with ATI drivers...and it rotates around each time a new driver is released. nVIDIA just doesn't have these problems for my software. Marc "Michael R Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <"bhoenig<no- > spam>"@comcast.net> says... > > Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at4X

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> > each. > > > > > > Andrew wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH > > > <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9 > > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a

new > > > >flight sim (LOMAC). Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has > > > >worsened. Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that theedges

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> > > >of the track kind of "shimmer". It's very distracting. > > > > > > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that > > > out. > > > There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work. > > http://tinyurl.com/x4fx (Rage3D message board thread on games that do > not work with AA) > > -- > MRSisson > > LOAD "GPL",8,1 > RUN

If you don't switch how would you know half of your software has issues? Youre living in the past. ATI drivers have been rock solid for a couple years now and the Omega version just plain rocks. If you like your Nvidia (crap imo) fine but don't start making stuff up (or continuing a false rumor) about ATI to justify your decision. Ive never been happier about any video card Ive owned than Ive been with my 9700P AIW. It just plain does what it was advertised to do perfectly. I went from a GF2 to a GF3 and the performance difference was negligible. Going from the GF3 to the 9700P was a real eye opener. In hindsight I should have just skipped the GF3. Nvidia are the kings of marketing (better known as BS) but end users that have actually used both cards know the real deal. Mitch "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t8nzb.10522$[email hidden]... > The reason I won't switch to ATI despite the nice hardware design. Halfthe > software on my system has one problem or another with ATI drivers...and it > rotates around each time a new driver is released. nVIDIA just doesn'thave > these problems for my software. > > Marc >

Ditto Mitch, the 9700pro was the best video card purchase I have ever made, well except that dual SLI mode 3dfx setup in years past was way cool :) "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ltozb.32103$[email hidden]...

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> If you don't switch how would you know half of your software has issues? > Youre living in the past. ATI drivers have been rock solid for a couple > years now and the Omega version just plain rocks. If you like your Nvidia > (crap imo) fine but don't start making stuff up (or continuing a false > rumor) about ATI to justify your decision. > > Ive never been happier about any video card Ive owned than Ive been with

my > 9700P AIW. It just plain does what it was advertised to do perfectly. I > went from a GF2 to a GF3 and the performance difference was negligible. > Going from the GF3 to the 9700P was a real eye opener. In hindsight I > should have just skipped the GF3. Nvidia are the kings of marketing(better > known as BS) but end users that have actually used both cards know thereal

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> deal. > > Mitch > > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:t8nzb.10522$[email hidden]... > > The reason I won't switch to ATI despite the nice hardware design. Half > the > > software on my system has one problem or another with ATI drivers...and

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> > rotates around each time a new driver is released. nVIDIA just doesn't > have > > these problems for my software. > > > > Marc > > > >

> I > went from a GF2 to a GF3 and the performance difference was negligible. > Going from the GF3 to the 9700P was a real eye opener. In hindsight I > should have just skipped the GF3. Same here. I forgot just how good ATI looks. FPS isn't the only thing that matters. MadDAWG