What's up with GPL ?

Ron, That's just it. It's a good simulator minus the fancy, real fancy graphics. You either take this, or you go for EA's NFS stuff. That's eye candy plus arcade. I don't like arcade type games; I go for realism. Thus, GPL or SCGT.... Alanb

If you want to look at great quality racing pictures, buy yourself a magazine. For the best Sim, I prefer GPL.

I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's spectacular eye-candy, all the time). Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? Greetings, Ron

If you had to laugh out loud about the graphics you probably do not have a high-tech system... cya, Jarno

Sure, Need for Speed: High Stakes and some other racers have lush graphics sporting the very latest in eye candy. GPL is not about eye candy. If eye candy is what you crave at all costs, there are many other games which do a good job of providing it. GPL is about revolutionary realism in vehicle dynamics, and learning to control and race cars at the very limit of grip. The sensation of speed is also tremendous, as you would know if you ever did the Masta Kink at Spa almost flat out! I know there are some people that can't appreciate GPL, and that's cool, but try to understand that it's not lush graphics that has hooked people in this newsgroups, but incredible sim realism and fantastic multiplayer. Randy

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>I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! >Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but >the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse >me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is >better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's >spectacular eye-candy, all the time). >Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? >Greetings, >Ron

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Did you try opening options, then putting it to 3DFX like it said in the readme? no? duh! -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

exactly, maybe he should be looking at recs.autos.arcaderacers instead -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

>I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! The deal is that GPL blows everything else away. Anyone who frequests this NG knows that I thought F1RS was the best F1 sim. Well after the FF patch was released I got the game. Then I played F1RS again. It reminded me of a***pit cutout on a stick in front of my monitor. It has an absolutely terrible driving model. GPL is where it is at. The other stuff (even ICR2) is chickenshit. IMHO :-) Terrible? I have a P2-450, 128 MB of ram, a 16MB TNT card, a 12MB V2 card and a partridge in a pear tree. Know what? I think the graphics in GPL (I am using 3dfx) are much better than F1RS. I do think the graphics in SCGT are still the best though. Sounds like a personal problem. Don't know what you mean by this. But if you have a FF wheel, then GPL is a must have. Nothing else can compare. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

dont know what ron's been smokin, or maybee his systems been smokin. My system is no powere house (celeron 300) but with a 3dfx card GPL is the most beautiful race sim ever

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>I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! >Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but >the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse >me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is >better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's >spectacular eye-candy, all the time). >Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? >Greetings, >Ron

I have no idea.... It has gotten out of hand a bit hasn't it. hehehe, I've said that before, maybe its time they ***ywell do get one:-) Like so many games/sims before it, the demo sucked.... I hated the demo like hell..... Then Since everyone said the full one was so brilliant I spotted it on sale and decided to try it..... sure enough the full one was better but still you would swear that this ws the GOD of the sim world, come on! It good, its fun, its realistic, its a great sim but alot of guys have gone overboard. The graphics are NICE but they are too dull and matted adn things like buildings around Monaco could use some shading to show well shadows and of course wear and tear....... they look a bittoo perfect which gices thema cartooney look but I recomend GPL but its not as if GPL is the last sim we will ever play like some seem to think. Come again?

Greg Cisko wrote : A few months ago, none of us *ever* thought you'd be saying these things :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 "Democracy is enforced by law" - Quote on a Belgian Tourism Board Promo

they are crazy about gpl because its the only racing game that can truly be called a 'simulation'...coupled with the fact that the graphics, the gameplay, the way the car feels whilst driving and now with force feedback with the new 1.1 patch it can't be beaten, no game comes close and yes i've played them ALL. I take it you either dont have a 3d accelerator in which case you didnt go to the graphics options before playing or you have a tnt and didnt get the opengl patch to run in accelerated mode... its nearly 2 years old and STILL it looks better than say...official formula one...

That's cause GPL is such a great game. It is. It deserves attention. As far as the graphics go, I think you're probably running it in software mode. When I first fired it up I thought the graphics, although not necessarily the most important part of a racing sim, were pretty outdated. That plus the horrible sound and the fact that I hadn't bought a steering wheel yet really made me think the game was garbage. If you have a 3dfx card turn on 3dfx mode, 640x480, all graphics options turned up. The graphics, while not exactly "lush", are certainly as good as I would expect them to be. If you're running your sound with the default 4 channels, turn it up to 16; the 16-channel sound is great. Lastly, buy a steering wheel (which you may or may not already have). Of all the racing sims I've tried over the past couple of months (I'm new to the racing sim thing) this game is the best I've tried (along with Viper Racing ;). All I can say is try the demo again. You shouldn't be disapointed (although you may still be for all I know ;).

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> I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? > They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! > Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but > the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse > me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is > better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's > spectacular eye-candy, all the time). > Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? > Greetings, > Ron

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Graham, you are overlooking the fact that opinions regarding such features as graphics and sound are totally subjective: what appeals to one may not appeal to another. For example, I cannot abide the style of the graphics in Eidos' F1 Racing sim but absolutely love the pastel shades used GPL for such circuits as Zandvoort and Silverstone. Others opionions are completely the opposite but this doesn't make one person right and the other wrong....it's simply a matter of personal taste. Physics and AI behaviour, on the other hand, can be assessed objectively and it is here that GPL sits at the pinnacle of racing sims.

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>I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! >Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but >the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse >me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is >better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's >spectacular eye-candy, all the time). >Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? >Greetings, >Ron

Well i don't know about you, but I think the graphics in GPL are not that bad. I bought GPL because it is the BEST sim at this point in time, not cause its "Pretty". If you play games to see pretty graphics go but Incoming. Its real pretty & shit to play. Perhaps it's just that GPL is too hard for you ? Stick to NFS.

I do take offense to what you have said. For me GPL has been the racing game that i keep coming back to after all the others. I have played nfs3 and 4 and they do look pretty but after a little while, the rail like physics just dont do it for me. I go back to GPL every time. The attention to detail, and the wonderful physics engine set a new standard in PC racing games. Maybe you should play the demo a bit longer and don't give up just because you are spinning off all the time. Give it a while and you will understand why GPL is the king of racing sims. Das

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>Greg Cisko wrote : >>The deal is that GPL blows everything else away. >>GPL is a must have. Nothing else can compare. >A few months ago, none of us *ever* thought you'd be saying these things >:-)

Hey... A few months ago GPL did not have FF. I also think that without FF GPL would be impossible :-) I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. I have only driven at Monza and Monaco, but the other sims are truly bad now. It is the same with flightsims. After flying a good one a poor flightmodel just destroys the game. Anyway I'm with you guys now :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

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>Like so many games/sims before it, the demo sucked.... I hated the demo like >hell..... Then Since everyone said the full one was so brilliant I spotted >it on sale and decided to try it..... sure enough the full one was better >but still you would swear that this ws the GOD of the sim world, come on! It >good, its fun, its realistic, its a great sim but alot of guys have gone >overboard. The graphics are NICE but they are too dull and matted adn things >like buildings around Monaco could use some shading to show well shadows and >of course wear and tear....... they look a bittoo perfect which gices thema >cartooney look but I recomend GPL but its not as if GPL is the last sim we >will ever play like some seem to think.

I guess it's just that most of us are spending more of our time driving, versus sightseeing and watching the pretty (or not so pretty) pictures going by... :) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Is this the longest thread ever, or what! Yeah GPL must be an average game. I must admit that I wasn't impressed by the demo either, but it doesn't do the full game justice. You need to play it for at least a week before it starts to get hold of you. It isn't instantly accessible, which some don't like. For the rest of us it's just a religion.

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>I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like that ! >Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, but >the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), excuse >me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the gameplay is >better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was stunned by the game's >spectacular eye-candy, all the time). >Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ? >Greetings, >Ron

Hmm... I guess I'm nuts then because the 'Ring is my favourite track! -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 "Democracy is enforced by law" - Quote on a Belgian Tourism Board Promo

No Ron, GPL is the Half Life of racing sims. There is a fair amount of skill required to really appreciate this game.... gotta pay your dues or steer well clear as the arcade approach to GPL is a one way ticket to frustration city. But you've got somewhat of a point... I truly wish there were more sims of this calibre to talk about here. But until one arrives, I think there's lot's more to discuss as online GPL matures and people are moving into longer, more difficult races (both online and offline). Jan. ------ >I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? ><Snip>

>I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. I have only >driven at Monza and Monaco, but the other sims are truly bad now. >It is the same with flightsims. After flying a good one a poor flightmodel >just destroys the game. Anyway I'm with you guys now :-) Ooooer, it's a man from the dark side :-) Yeah other sims are truly bad. The 'ring is like a whole other game within the game... yup, it's for loons! Mike. ps. must get practising with that new F4 1.07 patch!!!

o.uk... > >I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. I have only > >driven at Monza and Monaco, but the other sims are truly bad now. > >It is the same with flightsims. After flying a good one a poor flightmodel > >just destroys the game. Anyway I'm with you guys now :-) > Ooooer, it's a man from the dark side :-) > Yeah other sims are truly bad. The 'ring is like a whole other game within > the game... yup, it's for loons! Reminds me of this quote : "Anyone who says he likes the ring is either lying or didn't drive fast enough" Anyone care to remind me of who said this -Bj?rn

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> o.uk... > > >I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. I have only > > >driven at Monza and Monaco, but the other sims are truly bad now. > > >It is the same with flightsims. After flying a good one a poor > flightmodel > > >just destroys the game. Anyway I'm with you guys now :-) > > Ooooer, it's a man from the dark side :-) > > Yeah other sims are truly bad. The 'ring is like a whole other game > within > > the game... yup, it's for loons! > Reminds me of this quote : "Anyone who says he likes the ring is either > lying or didn't drive fast enough" > Anyone care to remind me of who said this > -Bj?rn

think it was jackie stewart -- Arne Martin

Ditto, Graeme! I would have bought GPL if it had simply been called "German GP 1967" and only had the one circuit!

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> >I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. > Hmm... I guess I'm nuts then because the 'Ring is my favourite track! > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk > ICQ# 11257824 > "Democracy is enforced by law" - Quote on a Belgian Tourism Board Promo

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> > Reminds me of this quote : "Anyone who says he likes the ring is either > > lying or didn't drive fast enough" > > Anyone care to remind me of who said this > > -Bj?rn > think it was jackie stewart

Check this out - there's a great Grand Prix History site at http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/index.htm. Apart from his autobiography at http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/stew_bio.htm, there's a great article by the man himself about his best-ever race - his victory at the 1968 German Grand Prix. http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/nurburg1968.htm Definitely worth a read!

I think what he would like to hear is: Doom is to Wolfenstein as GPL is to [all other race sims]. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

... That isn't fair because, in the words of Eric Cartman, OF1R sucks *ss. (sorry if anyone's offended). Unless the retail versions has a FAR better simulation than the awful arcade mode of the demo. The demo killed it for me in 15 minutes. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

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> I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? > They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like > that ! > Yeah, I recently downloaded the demo. I don't know about you guys, > but the terrible in-game graphics just made me laugh out loud (LOL), > excuse me. No, I do have a high-tech system. Eeh.. well, perhaps the > gameplay is better ; wasn't able to check it out (because I was > stunned by the game's spectacular eye-candy, all the time). > Is GPL the "Wolfenstein" of the racing sims ?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. (FX: yawn........) The demo, wow, now thats what I call a *proper* review? Wouldn't want to try the full program, no, no, no. Terrible graphics, right, sure. Try getting a decent graphics card *and* the right drivers so it can be used with GPL. Then tell us it has terrible graphics. Perhaps the gameplay is better? you didn't actually hang around long enough to try it out then? This really is what I call an informed, sensible, comprehensive, constructive post. You really know your stuff don't you......NOT! *Peter*

I read about what Jackie Stewart did at the ring the year that it was raining(year?), it hs given me huge amounts of respect for the man. There are not many who can say they raced a wet nurburgring and won. -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek ! > > o.uk... > > > >I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. I have only > > > >driven at Monza and Monaco, but the other sims are truly bad now. > > > >It is the same with flightsims. After flying a good one a poor > > flightmodel > > > >just destroys the game. Anyway I'm with you guys now :-) > > > Ooooer, it's a man from the dark side :-) > > > Yeah other sims are truly bad. The 'ring is like a whole other game > > within > > > the game... yup, it's for loons! > > Reminds me of this quote : "Anyone who says he likes the ring is either > > lying or didn't drive fast enough" > > Anyone care to remind me of who said this > > -Bj?rn > think it was jackie stewart > -- > Arne Martin

The demo for MGPRS2 did the same thing for me... Based on THAT, I can't see how ANYONE would want it. Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Ditto, Graeme! >I would have bought GPL if it had simply been called "German GP 1967" and >only had the one circuit! >> >I still think that anyone who likes the 'ring in GPL is nuts. >> Hmm... I guess I'm nuts then because the 'Ring is my favourite track!

Funny thing - when I first heard about GPL, and the tracks that would be included, I was SERIOUSLY in anticipation of being able to run Nurburgring. I actually wanted the program JUST for the 'Ring. Now...hoo boy. I didn't realize it would be that TOUGH. :-( Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The thing about the ring, it ISN'T tough. The fact is it is SO damn long. There are equally challenging corners on EVERY track in GPL, the fact is that the ring just has more of them on a single lap. I too bought GPL for the ring, and I am not up to speed yet there (8:15 in honda), but I do now have all the turns memorised and can lap consistently without trouble, but then I think of Spa, that is for me an equally daunting track, and personally I made more mistakes there than I do at the ring, and yet online I get more "Well Done's!" over my spa laps that I do ring... you know why? Cos online the ring hardly exists, I would host it myself, but being a 3 car host there's not much point, I love the ring, but most people seem totally daunted by 174 turns. For those of you who perhaps want to know: Faviourite: Rouen. Best (Where I am fast): Zandvoort. Worst (Where slow): Kyalami. -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

I'll race you on "The Ring" any time Tim... and I ain't afraid to make it a two hose race either (ask Mark J.). 174 corners don't scare me none... just really hard to a take a car to it's limits there.... margin for error approaches zero. Jan. ------

If you're doing 8:15, I'd say you're "up to speed", especially in a Honda. I got into one of your Honda only races the other day, and I had a blast. The car was a handfull, since I had very little experience with it and no setup, but I did fairly well, and had a lot of fun. That's the point, isn't it? I love the Ring, and sit here praying for someone to host. I've been racing with you a few times recently Tim, put one up from time to time, and see if anyone grows some balls. Don McCorkle Libertarian Motorsports

YOU're not up to speed? You're a full minute faster per lap than me there and I've had a total of TWO laps that I've ever finished and gotten a time for... I love the track though. I just hate spinning 5 or more times per lap... Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

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>The thing about the ring, it ISN'T tough. >The fact is it is SO damn long. >There are equally challenging corners on EVERY track in GPL, the fact is >that the ring just has more of them on a single lap. I too bought GPL for >the ring, and I am not up to speed yet there (8:15 in honda), but I do now >have all the turns memorised and can lap consistently without trouble, but >then I think of Spa, that is for me an equally daunting track, and >personally I made more mistakes there than I do at the ring, and yet online >I get more "Well Done's!" over my spa laps that I do ring... you know why? >Cos online the ring hardly exists, I would host it myself, but being a 3 car >host there's not much point, I love the ring, but most people seem totally >daunted by 174 turns.

Well, you're a full THREE minutes faster than me(11:16), so it wouldn't do me ANY good to race you. But, maybe I'll set up a Nurburgring race on my server. At Spa, my best is 3:33, ad Kyalami, 1:24. In other words, I'm WAY outclassed... :-( __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

My point is, I can sit here right now and tell you.... straight, drop to 2nd for left........ stay 2nd for right, accel to 4th then brake to 2nd for left, 3rd, then 2nd for left, then flat kink right then down to 1st for left, then 2nd for right....... damn i love that track! The thing is once you have lapped it a few times it begins to get into your head, it is HUGE fun to drive, I can easily see why Graeme Nash takes it as his faviourite, but hell! That guy drives 8:15 in his Ferrari in PRO! -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

Well you should consider yourself a pretty fast driver there :) Im a Honda-***ed GPL driver, and my BLAP is 8:25. And I can't see where I can get time off anymore. I was at the total limit of myself and my car. The Force is strong in you... -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Finally someone who is almost as slow as I am. I think we would make a great team Eldred! My best at Spa (the only track I really have practiced up until now) is 3.33 too. I don't recall my "best" lap at the ring but it's not under 11mins! It really doesn't matter to me, I love the sim anyway (especially now after having bought the Logitech WFF!) Jan. > Well, you're a full THREE minutes faster than me(11:16), so it wouldn't do me > ANY good to race you. But, maybe I'll set up a Nurburgring race on my server. > At Spa, my best is 3:33, ad Kyalami, 1:24. In other words, I'm WAY > outclassed... :-(

Jan, Now I really can't wait for our race ;) Andre On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:51:10 +0200, Jan Hovius

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>Finally someone who is almost as slow as I am. I think we would make a great >team Eldred! My best at Spa (the only track I really have practiced up until now) >is 3.33 too. I don't recall my "best" lap at the ring but it's not under 11mins! >It really doesn't matter to me, I love the sim anyway (especially now after >having bought the Logitech WFF!) >Jan. >> Well, you're a full THREE minutes faster than me(11:16), so it wouldn't do me >> ANY good to race you. But, maybe I'll set up a Nurburgring race on my server. >> At Spa, my best is 3:33, ad Kyalami, 1:24. In other words, I'm WAY >> outclassed... :-(

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> for left........ stay 2nd for right, accel to 4th then brake to 2nd for > left, 3rd, then 2nd for left, then flat kink right then down to 1st for > left, then 2nd for right....... > damn i love that track! > The thing is once you have lapped it a few times it begins to get into

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> his faviourite, but hell! That guy drives 8:15 in his Ferrari in PRO! > -- > TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. > The Homemade HondaFreek! > Visit the Honda Homepage ! > http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html > or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

>> I dunno, but why is everybody so crazy about GPL ?? What's the deal ? >> They should rename this group to rec.gpl.freaks or something like >> that ! ... >Yeah, yeah, yeah. (FX: yawn........) ... >This really is what I call an informed, sensible, comprehensive, >constructive post. >You really know your stuff don't you......NOT! He downloaded a later demo and... liked it. That ends this thread I guess. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

....and that, Ron, is what's "up" with GPL <G>

:o)) naaa.... just like to have that Honda SCREAMIN' !!! -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek ! > You must have your gear ratios set slightly lower than mine. > > My point is, I can sit here right now and tell you.... straight, drop to > 2nd > > for left........ stay 2nd for right, accel to 4th then brake to 2nd for > > left, 3rd, then 2nd for left, then flat kink right then down to 1st for > > left, then 2nd for right....... > > damn i love that track! > > The thing is once you have lapped it a few times it begins to get into > your > > head, it is HUGE fun to drive, I can easily see why Graeme Nash takes it > as > > his faviourite, but hell! That guy drives 8:15 in his Ferrari in PRO! > > -- > > TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. > > The Homemade HondaFreek! > > Visit the Honda Homepage ! > > http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html > > or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

Hee hee :-) Tim means this: [link lost in import] GPL Experiences ==> Offline at the Ring, July 1999 My best ever sim-race? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

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>Finally someone who is almost as slow as I am. I think we would make a great >team Eldred! My best at Spa (the only track I really have practiced up until >now) >is 3.33 too. I don't recall my "best" lap at the ring but it's not under >11mins! >It really doesn't matter to me, I love the sim anyway (especially now after >having bought the Logitech WFF!) >Jan. >> Well, you're a full THREE minutes faster than me(11:16), so it wouldn't do >me >> ANY good to race you. But, maybe I'll set up a Nurburgring race on my >server. >> At Spa, my best is 3:33, ad Kyalami, 1:24. In other words, I'm WAY >> outclassed... :-(

Sounds like the makings of Team Obstacle...<g> No, I'm not claiming inventing it, but I can't remember who DID. Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.