waiting for INDYCAR RACING III

any news on a new version of icr

there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim because of the breakup of CART and IRL. If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that orginally came out back in the (80's?)

Well, many of us got hooked on PC racing with that one, but nowadays think about this: any likelihood people would buy a racing sim with only ONE track and 3 cars? Maybe if they'd model the ENTIRE Indy500 experience it'd sell (winner's circle, drive to the garage area, etc.), but I'd think they'd be vilified here for only a single track! Gunner

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>>there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim >>because of the breakup of CART and IRL. >>If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I >>personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that >>orginally came out back in the (80's?) > Well, many of us got hooked on PC racing with that one, but >nowadays think about this: any likelihood people would buy a racing >sim with only ONE track and 3 cars? Maybe if they'd model the ENTIRE >Indy500 experience it'd sell (winner's circle, drive to the garage >area, etc.), but I'd think they'd be vilified here for only a single >track! >Gunner

Well, could they work on a patch for it possibly so we get like 800X600 resolutions, textures, and 3d acceleration or something? Just to make it less of an eyesore? :) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

Wherever you got your information from, you need to send it back. Its not a sim, but nonetheless the Dreamcast will have a nice looking arcade CART racer on it. Microsoft still has a license to CART and so does Papyrus in addition to Sega. > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I

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> personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that > orginally came out back in the (80's?) > > any news on a new version of icr

The CART game on the Dreamcast sucks Racer X Veteran Sim Racer Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

not so sure about that myself, if they made a HUGE game, like that if you REALLY wanted you could do the months practice etc, and perhaps you have to pass rookie test etc i would love it, and 500 miles too yyyyeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaa! -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek ! > >there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > >because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > >If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I > >personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that > >orginally came out back in the (80's?) > Well, many of us got hooked on PC racing with that one, but > nowadays think about this: any likelihood people would buy a racing > sim with only ONE track and 3 cars? Maybe if they'd model the ENTIRE > Indy500 experience it'd sell (winner's circle, drive to the garage > area, etc.), but I'd think they'd be vilified here for only a single > track! > Gunner

um...... he didn't get his information from anyone, look at the words he actually put then think...... then think...... he said he wouldn't mind seeing....... not I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO...... k? -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek ! > Wherever you got your information from, you need to send it back. Its not a > sim, but nonetheless the Dreamcast will have a nice looking arcade CART > racer on it. Microsoft still has a license to CART and so does Papyrus in > addition to Sega. > > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. > I > > personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that > > orginally came out back in the (80's?) > > > any news on a new version of icr

I am talking about the fact that there is no CART simulation that has the Indy500 in it!! There was one cheesy game by ABC sports called Indy500: The experience. They had it all over the Indy track last year (or was it the year before?). Like I said, the last I heard, no one is going to make an 'indycar' sim because of the break ups!! You misunderstood... I didn't say CART, I said Indycars. There is a difference now.. remember? IRL races indycars, CART races CART cars. you can't call them indycars if they never GO to Indy now can you? > Wherever you got your information from, you need to send it back. Its not a

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> sim, but nonetheless the Dreamcast will have a nice looking arcade CART > racer on it. Microsoft still has a license to CART and so does Papyrus in > addition to Sega. > > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a

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> I > > personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that > > orginally came out back in the (80's?) > > > any news on a new version of icr

Just imagine.. you have to start by earning enough money to get yourself a team. You have to 'roleplay' with sponsors. Then you can practice.. your car, test it in the wind tunnel..etc. Finally, the big day comes and the game makes it as though you are really on the track. You can walk ala Quake engine to your car... get in your car.. etc.. That would be too cool! > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I

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> personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that > orginally came out back in the (80's?) > > any news on a new version of icr

CART Sim Features Sheet Important ones denoted with * All tracks* Good but easy to use Track Editor All cars (none fictional)* Fantasy Tracks 8^) GPL Physics or N3 if not GPL* All teams (tobacco and *** if possible)* native RENDITION support*** drafting* 3d***pits* 3d Physics engine that simulates true CART handling* Resolutions like 800x600 and 1024x768* Excellent car damage model so that no two crashes look alike* Realistic flip effects,like GPL and not Andretti Racing (boo) Comprehensive car setups, including springs, shocks, camber, weight jacker on ovals, static ride height, dampers, rebounds, bump stops, etc. * Realistic effects like bottoming out* Realistic debris that you can run over and damage your car on Random tire blowouts* Oil and other fluids from engine failures* Fire (highly unlikely this will be allowed by CART)* Realistic wall types and wall effects (Armco barriers do more damage than concrete, tire walls do less damage than concrete, tire walls cause car to get airborne and flip more than concrete and armcos, etc.)* Realistic gravel trap effects (Come on, you know you wanna do an Andretti at Mid-Ohio, admit it...)* Improved Paintkit* realistic sounds actually digitally recorded* animated pit stops* area in pit road that can be drivin off into the infield to get to victory lane..or garage* realistic***pit that has hand on wheel like GPL* better frame rates/3d acceleration/1024x768 resolution* better engine, way more realistic damage to the car, the way the damage is spread across the track in real life...fliping catchin air on other tires* better smoke,skid marks and racing groove*, possible damage of the catch fencing* RED FLAGS* animated workers on the track after a wreck...and if possible ambulances or REAL tow-trucks* marks on the walls after a hit, animated flagmen* more options to change on the car in garage full field of cars* all the current tracks ( if possible...Indianapolis, since it rightfully is CART's) * realistic lookin part-time road courses like with the closed off streets and stuff* fire,fuel and oil leaks, (causin slippery race track)* possible damage to the pit wall..* animated OPPONENT pit stops* more realistic AI cars* weather changes like durin the race, rain, wind, etc* possible use of rain tires, and racing in the rain (regardless of if there was rain that season or not*)

Why not have one track in different eras. Such as: 1911-challenge Ray Harroun 1919-the Birckyard after the war 1940-Indy during the Depression 1946-Hulman takes over 1965-Indy in tye-dye 1986-IMS turns 75 1995-the last true 500 And have cars race in their respective eras. Now I would buy that! Cheers, Eric Brighton You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address "They were called test pilots...and no one knew their names."

>any news on a new version of icr Don't hold your breath. Papyrus isn't even working on it,even though they have an exclusive license till 2001 Joel Willstein

>Well, could they work on a patch for it possibly so we get like 800X600 >resolutions, textures, and 3d acceleration or something? Just to make it less >of an eyesore? :) >Dan Belcher >Team Racing Unlimited Dan, Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends. Joel Willstein

Damn fine idea, except that you-know-who in his Ivory Tower in Indianapolis, would never go for it unless it included the Irrelevent Racing League ;-) don [|]-(_)-[|]

great idea! they could easily re-create the 1960's using the GPL engine! -- TIM "Calm Down" WHEATLEY. The Homemade HondaFreek! Visit the Honda Homepage ! http://underworld.fortunecity.com/arcadia/509/index.html or E-Mail the HondaFreek !

You heard wrong. No CART sims are forthcoming that I know of, but we will definitely something that features Indy-style cars in the near future: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/gtirl/ -- John Bodin Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/

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>If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I >personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that >orginally came out back in the (80's?) >> any news on a new version of icr

Not so cheesy, actually -- some die-hard ICR2 fans have actually stated that they found this game (which was actually titled "ABC Indy Racing: The Road To Indy") to be superior to ICR2 in some ways (the cars can actually get airborne to a certain extent, which indicates some sophistication in the physics modeling area). The sim overpowered the machines and video cards at the time; D3D was just arriving, as were the cards that supported it. It had the same problems as GP2 did in the hardware area, in fact; on a modern 300 MHz machine with a good video card and the steering tweak utility, the sim's actually pretty fun. Check out the following URL for more details: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/abcindyracing/ Enjoy! -- John Bodin Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/

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>Like I said, the last I heard, no one is going to make an 'indycar' sim >because of the break ups!! You misunderstood... I didn't say CART, I said >Indycars. There is a difference now.. remember? IRL races indycars, CART >races CART cars. you can't call them indycars if they never GO to Indy now >can you? >> Wherever you got your information from, you need to send it back. Its not >a >> sim, but nonetheless the Dreamcast will have a nice looking arcade CART >> racer on it. Microsoft still has a license to CART and so does Papyrus in >> addition to Sega. >> > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim >> > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. >> > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a >sim. >> I >> > personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that >> > orginally came out back in the (80's?) >> > > any news on a new version of icr

tony george is an ass >Damn fine idea, except that you-know-who in his Ivory Tower in Indianapolis,

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>would never go for it unless it included the Irrelevent Racing League ;-) >don >[|]-(_)-[|] >>Why not have one track in different eras. Such as: >>1911-challenge Ray Harroun >>1919-the Birckyard after the war >>1940-Indy during the Depression >>1946-Hulman takes over >>1965-Indy in tye-dye >>1986-IMS turns 75 >>1995-the last true 500 >>And have cars race in their respective eras. Now I would buy that! >>Cheers, >>Eric Brighton >>You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address >>"They were called test pilots...and no one knew their names."

Well, I can always dream, can't I? I remember day dreaming three or four years ago that it would be really cool to have a game that let you race cars from the but I bet four years ago none of us really thought a game like GPL would be so good. And as for Tony George, I plan on trying to find whoever put the curse on the Kennedys. Whoever it was who struck that family could be very helpful in resolving the CART IRL split. Again, I can dream can't I? Cheers, Eric Brighton You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address "They were called test pilots...and no one knew their names."

> Xxxx Xxxxxx is an ass Speak not his name! lest you too be corrupted and loose your right to turn right...! dave henrie

Actually, there have been at least 3 CART sims since the breakup, and a 4th due very soon: CART Precision Racing, Newman-Haas Racing and the re-release of the patched ICR2 as CART Racing. Sega also has a CART game due for release soon. Sky > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim > because of the breakup of CART and IRL. > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I

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> Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more >work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends. If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel fan-base & European customers. Mike.

> > Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more > >work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends. > If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel > fan-base & European customers. How can you guys *** so much? I understand that everyone wants a new CART sim, but come on! Papy gives you GPL, and you still complain? 'Forgetting their open wheel fan base'? Um, excuse me, but isn't GPL 'OPEN WHEEL'? ICR2 is still good - with some patches. Give them a break, they've been working constant on a sim a year (practically). They've pretty much listened to us and our wishes. (I don't want to start a flame war with threads like 'Papyrus Never Listens') When do they get a break? I'm sure they've heard everyone wants ICR3. (Well, most of us) They'll get around to it. In the meantime - why don't you grill EA or Ubi-Soft for one...

I would sort of attribute it to the Sierra buyout...holding off on a GPL-based NASCAR is just Sierra BS. Just about every other Papy game was released well before PCs were available that could run them with any real speed. Sierra just wants them to milk ye olde N2 engine. I betcha if Papy still had any real say, we'd be beggin for NASCAR 4 and ICR5... :) -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "I read dead Russian authors volumes at a time I write everything down except what's on my mind 'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound And then I know I'll never get back out" -'Narcolepsy', Third Eye Blind > > > Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more > > >work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends. > > If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel > > fan-base & European customers. > How can you guys *** so much? I understand that everyone wants a new > CART sim, but come on! Papy gives you GPL, and you still complain? > 'Forgetting their open wheel fan base'? Um, excuse me, but isn't GPL > 'OPEN WHEEL'? ICR2 is still good - with some patches. Give them a break, > they've been working constant on a sim a year (practically). They've > pretty much listened to us and our wishes. (I don't want to start a > flame war with threads like 'Papyrus Never Listens') When do they get a > break? I'm sure they've heard everyone wants ICR3. (Well, most of us) > They'll get around to it. In the meantime - why don't you grill EA or > Ubi-Soft for one...