Logitech settings

I just purchased the Logitech FF Wheel and I have been testing it with various games. So far I like it but I don't really feel the car breaking loose in GPL or Viper racing. Are there any settings we can adjust to increase this sensation? Also with Viper, I assume its a software thing, I dont get the bump sensation when hitting other cars. My car, or theirs, will spin, but I dont get a contact bump like in GPL. NFS III does the same thing. Also I don't get a good weight tranfer feeling with the wheel. I hope I'm not expecting too much. I had just read how people could feel the car getting loose and was looking forward to it. I have done the auto-update and I have increased the effect percentages through the control panel. I was hoping there might be something in the ini file we could adjust. If anyone has some good settings I sure wouldn't mind trying them out. Thanks. Sondog

Have you updated the Profiler software (3.25 is the latest version) and played with the force adjustments in the Profiler software and in the GPL core.ini file? I agree with your assessment of the effects in Viper, but I've not made it my goal to bump into the other cars<g>. I thought the overall effects in VR were very good but GPL raises the bar somewhat higher. After driving GPL for 8 months with the LWFF and no effects, I was and am still astounded by the change. Through the wheel, I can feel the front of the car lose grip, the rear of the car sliding, the best curb and "edge of the track" effects and combined with a good graphics card at higher resolutions, I can see and feel every bump and ripple in the track. At the Glen, I can feel the crown in the road as I angle across the track, on the pit straight at Monza the car wiggles and shakes as it passes over the cracks in the old track surface and I swear I can feel sand all over the damn track at Zandvoort<g>! Papy is to be commended for a job well done. IMO anyway... don [|]-(_)-[|] >I just purchased the Logitech FF Wheel and I have been testing it with >various games. So far I like it but I don't really feel the car breaking >loose in GPL or Viper racing. Are there any settings we can adjust to >increase this sensation? Also with Viper, I assume its a software thing, I >dont get the bump sensation when hitting other cars. My car, or theirs, >will spin, but I dont get a contact bump like in GPL. NFS III does the same

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>thing. Also I don't get a good weight tranfer feeling with the wheel. I >hope I'm not expecting too much. I had just read how people could feel the >car getting loose and was looking forward to it. I have done the >auto-update and I have increased the effect percentages through the control >panel. I was hoping there might be something in the ini file we could >adjust. If anyone has some good settings I sure wouldn't mind trying them >out. Thanks. >Sondog

Don, I have the LWFF too and would like to know how your settings are in both the Wingman's properties and in the core.ini! Thanx, Jan. > Have you updated the Profiler software (3.25 is the latest version) and > played with the force adjustments in the Profiler software and in the GPL > core.ini file? I agree with your assessment of the effects in Viper, but > I've not made it my goal to bump into the other cars<g>. I thought the > overall effects in VR were very good but GPL raises the bar somewhat higher.

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> After driving GPL for 8 months with the LWFF and no effects, I was and am > still astounded by the change. Through the wheel, I can feel the front of > the car lose grip, the rear of the car sliding, the best curb and "edge of > the track" effects and combined with a good graphics card at higher > resolutions, I can see and feel every bump and ripple in the track. At the > Glen, I can feel the crown in the road as I angle across the track, on the > pit straight at Monza the car wiggles and shakes as it passes over the > cracks in the old track surface and I swear I can feel sand all over the > damn track at Zandvoort<g>! > Papy is to be commended for a job well done. IMO anyway... > don > [|]-(_)-[|] > >I just purchased the Logitech FF Wheel and I have been testing it with > >various games. So far I like it but I don't really feel the car breaking > >loose in GPL or Viper racing. Are there any settings we can adjust to > >increase this sensation? Also with Viper, I assume its a software thing,

I > >dont get the bump sensation when hitting other cars. My car, or theirs, > >will spin, but I dont get a contact bump like in GPL. NFS III does the > same > >thing. Also I don't get a good weight tranfer feeling with the wheel. I > >hope I'm not expecting too much. I had just read how people could feel the > >car getting loose and was looking forward to it. I have done the > >auto-update and I have increased the effect percentages through the control > >panel. I was hoping there might be something in the ini file we could > >adjust. If anyone has some good settings I sure wouldn't mind trying them > >out. Thanks. > >Sondog

Guys, I have three LWFF at home. Testing them, yeah that's it testing them. Well, ALL LWFF wheels (and probably other brands) react differently. Using the same settings in windows and the core.ini gave me a totally different feel in GPL. And again, this is using the EXACT same brand of wheel. So, trading core.ini setting is kind of worthless. It does help to get you in the ballpark for settings but they will feel different from Wheel to Wheel(same brand). So no matter what, you will need to do some tweaking in the core.ini. The setting that seems to get them to react similarly is the latency setting. Matter of fact, one of the LWFF wheels I have just plain sucks. It gives me odd pulls that the other two wheels just don't do. So if you suspect after lots and lots of tweaking that your wheel isn't working as you had hoped, you may want to take yours back and try another of the same brand. Good Luck! Wayne

Yes, that would be great if you could provide that. That's what I was looking for originally. Thanks. Sondog > Don, > I have the LWFF too and would like to know how your settings are in both the

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> Wingman's properties and in the core.ini! > Thanx, > Jan. > > Have you updated the Profiler software (3.25 is the latest version) and > > played with the force adjustments in the Profiler software and in the

GPL > > core.ini file? I agree with your assessment of the effects in Viper, but > > I've not made it my goal to bump into the other cars<g>. I thought the > > overall effects in VR were very good but GPL raises the bar somewhat > higher. > > After driving GPL for 8 months with the LWFF and no effects, I was and am > > still astounded by the change. Through the wheel, I can feel the front of > > the car lose grip, the rear of the car sliding, the best curb and "edge of > > the track" effects and combined with a good graphics card at higher > > resolutions, I can see and feel every bump and ripple in the track. At the > > Glen, I can feel the crown in the road as I angle across the track, on the

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> > pit straight at Monza the car wiggles and shakes as it passes over the > > cracks in the old track surface and I swear I can feel sand all over the > > damn track at Zandvoort<g>! > > Papy is to be commended for a job well done. IMO anyway... > > don > > [|]-(_)-[|] > > >I just purchased the Logitech FF Wheel and I have been testing it with > > >various games. So far I like it but I don't really feel the car

breaking > > >loose in GPL or Viper racing. Are there any settings we can adjust to > > >increase this sensation? Also with Viper, I assume its a software thing, > I > > >dont get the bump sensation when hitting other cars. My car, or theirs, > > >will spin, but I dont get a contact bump like in GPL. NFS III does the > > same > > >thing. Also I don't get a good weight tranfer feeling with the wheel. I

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> > >hope I'm not expecting too much. I had just read how people could feel > the > > >car getting loose and was looking forward to it. I have done the > > >auto-update and I have increased the effect percentages through the > control > > >panel. I was hoping there might be something in the ini file we could > > >adjust. If anyone has some good settings I sure wouldn't mind trying > them > > >out. Thanks. > > >Sondog

All of my friends who play gpl have the logitec wheel, so I tested them all. They ALL react the same (7 logitec wheels in total) using the same core.ini. I think that two of your wheels are bad manufactured or something like that. All logitec wheels should react the same. Andre On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:12:55 -0500, "Wayne Bradley"

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>Guys, >I have three LWFF at home. Testing them, yeah that's it testing them. Well, >ALL LWFF wheels (and probably other brands) react differently. Using the >same settings in windows and the core.ini gave me a totally different feel >in GPL. And again, this is using the EXACT same brand of wheel. So, trading >core.ini setting is kind of worthless. It does help to get you in the >ballpark for settings but they will feel different from Wheel to Wheel(same >brand). So no matter what, you will need to do some tweaking in the >core.ini. The setting that seems to get them to react similarly is the >latency setting. >Matter of fact, one of the LWFF wheels I have just plain sucks. It gives me >odd pulls that the other two wheels just don't do. So if you suspect after >lots and lots of tweaking that your wheel isn't working as you had hoped, >you may want to take yours back and try another of the same brand. >Good Luck! >Wayne >> Don, >> I have the LWFF too and would like to know how your settings are in both >the >> Wingman's properties and in the core.ini! >> Thanx, >> Jan.

Ah... NO!!! I don't buy it. Maybe they are bad. But I bought each wheel from a different place and they DO act TOTALLY different so to say they act the same is COMPLETELY false cause I have proof sitting in my house right now. So who's to say others don't have the same issue. My statement stands as completely true and something that others SHOULD consider. Wayne

Ok, I believe you. The only thing I'm saying is that all the 7 wheels I tested act absolutely the same way with the same core.ini. And they were bought at different places. Perhaps someone with some technical knowledge of the LWFF can tell us if it's possible that some lwff react differently because of different internal parts or something? Andre On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:55:21 -0500, "Wayne Bradley"

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>Ah... NO!!! I don't buy it. Maybe they are bad. But I bought each wheel from >a different place and they DO act TOTALLY different so to say they act the >same is COMPLETELY false cause I have proof sitting in my house right now. >So who's to say others don't have the same issue. My statement stands as >completely true and something that others SHOULD consider. >Wayne >> All of my friends who play gpl have the logitec wheel, so I tested >> them all. They ALL react the same (7 logitec wheels in total) using >> the same core.ini. I think that two of your wheels are bad >> manufactured or something like that. >> All logitec wheels should react the same. >> Andre

As soon as I get home tonight :-) TGIF!!! don [|]-(_)-[|] >Don, >I have the LWFF too and would like to know how your settings are in both the

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>Wingman's properties and in the core.ini! >Thanx, >Jan. >> Have you updated the Profiler software (3.25 is the latest version) and >> played with the force adjustments in the Profiler software and in the GPL >> core.ini file? I agree with your assessment of the effects in Viper, but >> I've not made it my goal to bump into the other cars<g>. I thought the >> overall effects in VR were very good but GPL raises the bar somewhat >higher. >> After driving GPL for 8 months with the LWFF and no effects, I was and am >> still astounded by the change. Through the wheel, I can feel the front of >> the car lose grip, the rear of the car sliding, the best curb and "edge

of >> the track" effects and combined with a good graphics card at higher >> resolutions, I can see and feel every bump and ripple in the track. At the >> Glen, I can feel the crown in the road as I angle across the track, on the

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>> pit straight at Monza the car wiggles and shakes as it passes over the >> cracks in the old track surface and I swear I can feel sand all over the >> damn track at Zandvoort<g>! >> Papy is to be commended for a job well done. IMO anyway... >> don >> [|]-(_)-[|] >> >I just purchased the Logitech FF Wheel and I have been testing it with >> >various games. So far I like it but I don't really feel the car

breaking >> >loose in GPL or Viper racing. Are there any settings we can adjust to >> >increase this sensation? Also with Viper, I assume its a software thing, >I >> >dont get the bump sensation when hitting other cars. My car, or theirs, >> >will spin, but I dont get a contact bump like in GPL. NFS III does the >> same >> >thing. Also I don't get a good weight tranfer feeling with the wheel. I

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>> >hope I'm not expecting too much. I had just read how people could feel >the >> >car getting loose and was looking forward to it. I have done the >> >auto-update and I have increased the effect percentages through the >control >> >panel. I was hoping there might be something in the ini file we could >> >adjust. If anyone has some good settings I sure wouldn't mind trying >them >> >out. Thanks. >> >Sondog

What if you're both right? Or both wrong? Regardless, I agree that each person should tweak the settings to find what feels best to *them*.

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> Ah... NO!!! I don't buy it. Maybe they are bad. But I bought each wheel from > a different place and they DO act TOTALLY different so to say they act the > same is COMPLETELY false cause I have proof sitting in my house right now. > So who's to say others don't have the same issue. My statement stands as > completely true and something that others SHOULD consider. > Wayne > > All of my friends who play gpl have the logitec wheel, so I tested > > them all. They ALL react the same (7 logitec wheels in total) using > > the same core.ini. I think that two of your wheels are bad > > manufactured or something like that. > > All logitec wheels should react the same. > > Andre

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>>Don, >>I have the LWFF too and would like to know how your settings are in both >the >>Wingman's properties and in the core.ini! >>Thanx, >>Jan.

Jan, I can tell you what I'm using now, but it may be completely different come Sunday. I'm still playing with the settings and as I try different chassis, I find that I like slightly different degrees of force or dampening with each one. At this time, driving the Eagle chassis, Profiler Settings: Seperate Axis...duh ;-) Overall effects 140% Spring effect 100% Damper effect 130% Enable Centering Spring UNchecked Centering Spring Strength 0% In the Axis Properties for the Wheel, Accelerator and Brake, I have the Dead Zone at Low for all three and the sensitivity for the Wheel at the notch between Med and High, while the Brake and Throttle are set at Med. Paddles set as shift up and shift down Unshifted Commands: Button 3 - Clutch Button 5 - Look Left Button 6 - Look Right Button 4 - SHIFT Shifted Commands: Left Paddle - Escape Right Paddle - Enter Button 3 - F-10 Button 5 - Shift-R Button 6 - Alt-F Core.ini: allow_force_feedback = 1 force_feedback_damping = 40.000000 force_feedback_latency = 0.085000 max_steering_torque = 200.000000 These settings are so personal and according to at least one person here, vary from wheel to wheel, they are not set in stone and frankly, you'd be nuts not to play with the settings yourself. Hope this helps :-) don [|]-(_)-[|]

I beleive that 3 of the same brand wheel can react differently, but why would you have 3 LWFF wheels at home? Sid. > Ah... NO!!! I don't buy it. Maybe they are bad. But I bought each wheel from

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> a different place and they DO act TOTALLY different so to say they act the > same is COMPLETELY false cause I have proof sitting in my house right now. > So who's to say others don't have the same issue. My statement stands as > completely true and something that others SHOULD consider. > Wayne > > All of my friends who play gpl have the logitec wheel, so I tested > > them all. They ALL react the same (7 logitec wheels in total) using > > the same core.ini. I think that two of your wheels are bad > > manufactured or something like that. > > All logitec wheels should react the same. > > Andre

I guess that was my point.

Found better prices so I bought them and will be taking back the others. HEHE, Wayne

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> I beleive that 3 of the same brand wheel can react differently, but why > would you have 3 LWFF wheels at home? > Sid. > > Ah... NO!!! I don't buy it. Maybe they are bad. But I bought each wheel > from > > a different place and they DO act TOTALLY different so to say they act

the > > same is COMPLETELY false cause I have proof sitting in my house right now.

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> > So who's to say others don't have the same issue. My statement stands as > > completely true and something that others SHOULD consider. > > Wayne > > > All of my friends who play gpl have the logitec wheel, so I tested > > > them all. They ALL react the same (7 logitec wheels in total) using > > > the same core.ini. I think that two of your wheels are bad > > > manufactured or something like that. > > > All logitec wheels should react the same. > > > Andre

Which one? Jens On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:55:28 -0500, "Wayne Bradley" >Found better prices so I bought them and will be taking back the others. >HEHE, >Wayne --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address