GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much less reliable in GPL 1.1? The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9 AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left, and at the end of the race there were 2. I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

Absolutely. And I must say that driving against the AI has become much more fun and a much better practice for online racing, with all the accidents! Andre On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:57:48 +0100, Graeme Nash

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>Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much >less reliable in GPL 1.1? >The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9 >AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left, >and at the end of the race there were 2. >I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 >cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! >And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm >rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! >Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

> I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 > cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! Sounds like today's Formula One races ;) Below are stats for the 1967 GP season for the number of cars that started and how many finished: Started Finished South Africa 18 6 Monaco 16 6 Holland 17 10 Belgium 18 10 France 15 6 Great Britain 21 10 Germany 17 8 Canada 18 11 Italy 18 7 USA 18 7 Mexico 19 12 See http://www.forix.com/asp/gp.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=6701&c=2 for race by race stats. Pretty cool stuff! --David Cook (Cooknn on VROC)

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>And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm >rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! >Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-) >-- >Cheers! >Graeme Nash

I think you're just too GOOD! <g> Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

thery are actually realistic figures graeme, in 1967 seeing over 6 cars finish was a shock

Interesting point, Graham. In fact, the demise of AI cars in real life back in the sixties was horrendous........the attrition rate per event was very high and reliability across all aspects of a car was ***y low!! I've just finished reading a book on the Brabham cars and teams from the very first BT to those used in the 1985 season.....so the book covers a good 20 years of Brabham racing. The poor reliability of not only the Brabhams but all/any of the cars during the 1960s........suspension failures, tyre failures, electrical glitches and engine problems of every nature..........stands out like a sore thumb. Papyrus might just have got it right again! :o)

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> Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much > less reliable in GPL 1.1? > The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9 > AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left, > and at the end of the race there were 2. > I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 > cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! > And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm > rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! > Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-) > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash > [link lost in import] > ICQ# 11257824

Should read "demise of cars......." There wasn't too much AI around back then!! :o) > Interesting point, Graham. In fact, the demise of AI cars in real life back > in the sixties was horrendous........the attrition rate per event was very > high and reliability across all aspects of a car was ***y low!! > I've just finished reading a book on the Brabham cars and teams from the > very first BT to those used in the 1985 season.....so the book covers a good

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> 20 years of Brabham racing. The poor reliability of not only the Brabhams > but all/any of the cars during the 1960s........suspension failures, tyre > failures, electrical glitches and engine problems of every > nature..........stands out like a sore thumb. > Papyrus might just have got it right again! :o) > > Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much > > less reliable in GPL 1.1? > > The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9 > > AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left, > > and at the end of the race there were 2. > > I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 > > cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! > > And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm > > rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! > > Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-) > > -- > > Cheers! > > Graeme Nash > > [link lost in import] > > ICQ# 11257824

I've noticed a slight increase in the failures of the player cars too - my Brabham doesn't seem to like hard shifts as much anymore :( -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "I read dead Russian authors volumes at a time I write everything down except what's on my mind 'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound And then I know I'll never get back out" -'Narcolepsy', Third Eye Blind > Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much > less reliable in GPL 1.1? > The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9 > AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left, > and at the end of the race there were 2. > I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7 > cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished! > And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm > rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car! > Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-) > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk > ICQ# 11257824

Ah, Fair enough then :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

Totally off topic, but is that not one of the best CD that has come out, ever? SLG

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>I've noticed a slight increase in the failures of the player cars too - my >Brabham doesn't seem to like hard shifts as much anymore :( >-- >Kirk Lane >ICQ: 28171652 >BRT #187 >"I read dead Russian authors volumes at a time >I write everything down except what's on my mind >'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound >And then I know I'll never get back out" > -'Narcolepsy', Third Eye Blind

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