First NASCAR 3 Hands-on Preview - SGN

Thanks for the preview. But I really do not think it is worth the money..N99 was the last straw in an obsolete engine. I for one want better crashes..anyone see the last Sears Point race?? :) And what about curbs? Weather? And in car live chat? Another thing is it is no secret that GPL is a suoped up version of the same old engine..what slows it down so much with more than 8 cars? AI? Old engine? bad programming? All? I do not mean to be sarcastic..but come on. Why not use the Viper Racing engine? Thanks.

it wouldn't hurt if you had *some* idea what you were talking about before making a post... same old engine..what slows it down so much with more than 8 cars? AI? Old engine? bad programming? All? I do not mean to be sarcastic..but come on. Why not use the Viper Racing engine? Thanks. unless it's just a **really** big secret....

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> I for one want better crashes..anyone see the last Sears Point race?? :) Forgive me, but I can't understand this fixation with crashes. I see this a lot on this newsgroup -- some sad little need to make one's mistakes entertaining. I think the airborne ***in GPL is overdone and extremely tedious. Nobody asked. Just my opinion. -- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended man to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"

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> > I for one want better crashes..anyone see the last Sears Point race?? :) > Forgive me, but I can't understand this fixation with crashes. I see this a lot > on this newsgroup -- some sad little need to make one's mistakes entertaining. > I think the airborne ***in GPL is overdone and extremely tedious. > Nobody asked. Just my opinion.

In an interview with David Kaemmer in PC Gamer UK last year if i remember correctly, he said that there was no extra programming to make the accidents more spectacular. They just came for free because of the physichs model. About chrashes, I think it is great if they are spectacular, but not if it is of the expence of the rest of the sim. Why had noone have the guts to model deformation/disintegration of the tub itself? Image hitting the bridge at Monza head on and just see the white noise, At the replay the car would be rather flat i guess. Or in a CART sim if the sidepod just disappears. But again, not at the expence of the sim itself, and chrashes like this would require enormous calculations of the car's structure. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

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I do have some Idea.. Just as much as you do I see. Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah, I'm a sad case. And I have a sad little need. And yes..I want to be entertained by these video Games..cause that it all they are. I try hard not to crash..but when I do it should be darn fun and and funny to look at. SIM still = Video GAME. Video game= FUN. Crashing is fun. And the only reason they are not in N3 is bacause that old engine cannot do it. > > I for one want better crashes..anyone see the last Sears Point race?? :) > Forgive me, but I can't understand this fixation with crashes. I see this a lot > on this newsgroup -- some sad little need to make one's mistakes entertaining.

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> I think the airborne ***in GPL is overdone and extremely tedious. > Nobody asked. Just my opinion. > -- > Bob Curtin > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > "If God had intended man to join the Army he would have given us green,

baggy > skin"

Crashing is FUN??? Hmmm... That's a new one!! Maybe I need to readjust my goals in GPL racing? With that mentality I am absolutely AWESOME at GPL!!! hehe Oh, yeah. There wont be any crashing in N3? That's a new concept too. Wayne

I bet you really wish you *were* being sarcastic now :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

"What we really have here is a major update to NASCAR Racing 2" I'll PASS... --David Cook > The Sports *** Network is extremely e***d to post what we believe > to be the FIRST hands-on preview of NASCAR 3.

Bah, still just another update to *ICR1*... i'll pass too

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> "What we really have here is a major update to NASCAR Racing 2" > I'll PASS... > --David Cook > > The Sports *** Network is extremely e***d to post what we believe > > to be the FIRST hands-on preview of NASCAR 3.

I couldn't care less about the accidents, I like the smoke and dirt, which will be in N3. As for the accidents in N3, what people are on about with GPL is that it is a 3D game engine, the car flows like nothing before, N1, N2, N99, Nanniv, etc all were 2D game engines, the car was like moving your mouse from side to side... GPL is more like using your hand to move over a textured object, sorry that's crap, but it is indescribable, especially with force feedback.

That's actually my biggest worry about N3 ... that without 3D physics, the force-feedback won't be as good as GPL. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

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LOL. Based on what I've read, it may be a little more than that. -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten [link lost in import: /%204.htm] > Bah, still just another update to *ICR1*... i'll pass too > > "What we really have here is a major update to NASCAR Racing 2" > > I'll PASS... > > --David Cook > > > The Sports *** Network is extremely e***d to post what we believe > > > to be the FIRST hands-on preview of NASCAR 3.

Nothing against the Viper engine, but here also racing against 15 AI cars is the best way to slow down framerates... CU Zolli