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LWMFF Pedals - increase your brake pedal travel by 40%!

4 posts by 3 people · 25 Jul 1999 - 01 Aug 1999

Joe R. Sha 25 Jul 1999#482539
Brad: Good stuff guy, thanks for the info. I intend to dig out the old hacksaw and so forth and give it a shot. I do, however, have another question. I've read many times in this NG how easy it is to find substitute springs at any hardware store. Now maybe we here in Utah really ARE forty years behind the times (as the old joke goes, "Welcome to Utah, please set your clocks back forty years."), but I had a devil of a time finding anything close to reasonable springs. The only springs I could find of the right diameter practically required me to stand on the pedal in order to compress them. I finally had to use the accelerator spring for the brakes and slip a sub diameter spring inside another, weaker spring for the accelerator. Hardly the best solution. A buddy in Canada said he got his from Canada Brakes, unfortunately the last Canada Brake franchise in Salt Lake must have closed up shop :-). Any suggestions as to where your got yours and what the specs were? I really like the LWMFF wheel, but the brakes are a problem. I've managed to cobble together a solution but it's not the best and getting CH pedals is likely to be a bit of a chore. OTOH, it does make an awfully good excuse for being slow, "Well, I'd have done better but with my brake pedals ... {sigh}" Thanks, Joe
It's time to dig out your Logitech pedals, and give them one more chance. With a simple modification, you can increase the travel of the brake pedal by a full 40%. If you haven't already done so, this would also be a good time to replace the brake pedal spring with a slightly heavier one, available at most hardware stores for mere pennies. Take your old spring with you when you get your pedals apart, and find a replacement of equal size, but heavier gauge. The brake pedal in the logitech pedal assembly is actually compressed quite a bit (about 13mm). I measured the stock pedal travel at approx 25mm, with the wheel assembled. I measured 38mm with the top off and the brake pedal resting on the spring. Freeing up the brake pedal to make use of some of this wasted compression (travel) turns out to be fairly simple. With a few minutes time, a small hacksaw blade, a phillips screwdriver, and a small file, you can reclaim that wasted (and precious) brake pedal travel. As delivered, the topside of the base has a 25mm X 45mm hole that the brake pedal comes through; <-25mm-> ________ | | ^ | | | | | 45 mm | | | ----------- Brake pedal arm is under here You need to get some of that plastic out of the way to let the brake pedal rise up a little higher through the base. Cut a 17mm wide X 28mm vertical slot directly under the hole where the brake pedal comes through the top of the base, thus allowing the brake pedal to protrude higher through the top of the base, like so; ________ | | | | | | original brake pedal hole | | --| |-- new cut starts here | | | | 28mm vertical | | ------- 17mm wide NOTE: The length of the slot determines the amount your brake pedal will rise. You want a little compression on the spring, so that it will stay in place. Don't cut this slot too long, or your brake pedal spring will not stay in place. Don't get greedy! Best to cut the slot a little shorter to begin with and adjust it to length with the small file. Neatness counts here, and keep the dust out of your pots. Bevel the sides of the cut to help guide the arm of the brake pedal, and ensure that it travels freely without scaping either sideI now have a full 10mm more brake travel, when measured vertically on the compression spring centerline. The base has suffered no ill effects due to this modification, and is as sturdy as ever. Acclerator Pedal: The accelerator pedal is not compressed very much at all, so there is very little to be gained with a similar relief slot. However, you can remove the adhesive *** bumper inside the base unit that sits under the gas pedal. This will gain you approx 3mm of travel, but will allow the spring to bind a little under full compression. Removing the bumper under the brake pedal will show a similar gain in pedal travel, but ONLY if you use the stock spring. A stiffer spring will bind before it even hits the *** bumper, so there's nothing to gain by removing it if you have replaced your stock brake spring. anybody wanna set a CH Pedals? Brad
Joe, I tried doubling up the two stock springs on the accelerator side, but could not put up with the binding. Twang! twwang! What the accelerator side needs is not a heavier spring, but a light damper of some kind... (maybe a future project). I got my spring (which IS fairly heavy, but that's how I like it) at the ACE Hardware store down the street. The spring I used will bind with about 1mm between the bottom of the brake arm and the *** bumper in the base. Hopefully you have an ACE Hardware store fairly close to you. One thing I should have mentioned in the original article. To mark the cut for the brake pedal slot, put the pedal in the top half of the base so that it comes through the hole and rests against the bottom of the top. Mark either side with a razor blade, or sharp knife. Cut the slot to 26mm and adjust to length with a small file. Good luck Joe!
J 01 Aug 1999#483577
Thanks Brad, I cannot wait to get home and take out my chainsaw :-) Jens On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:53:09 GMT, "Brad DuTemple" >It's time to dig out your Logitech pedals, and give them one more chance. >With a simple modification, you can increase the travel of the brake pedal >by a full 40%. <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

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