Nascar Revolution SE announced - LOL!!!!

Hold on to yer helmets: [link lost in import] Tuesday, July 20, 1999 - 09:31 CDT Electronic Arts Preparing NASCAR Revolution SE When Electronic Arts' racing simulation NASCAR Revolution hit the streets, it was anything but revolutionary. Plagued by sluggish frame rates and doltish AI, it promptly became the target of scathing criticism. Hoping fans will give them a second chance for a first impression, EA is preparing NASCAR Revolution SE. The Adrenaline Vault has learned this special edition will be the patched version EA claims features superior gameplay. (comment: LOL!!!) The revamp will also feature Internet options that enable people to match up with competitors from around the country. Lastly, it will feature a CD called NASCAR 101 that contains a video tutorial featuring real NASCAR crew chiefs and Benny Parsons. It will teach people the meaning of racing terms, how to race certain courses, how to configure a car and more. People wanting to drive the new revolution will get a chance when it ships this fall. -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * [link lost in import]

> The Adrenaline Vault has learned this special edition will be the > patched version EA claims features superior gameplay. > (comment: LOL!!!) LOL(again)! "Special Edition" in a situation like this simply means (at least to me) that you buy the game (again) to get the patch that makes the game what it was supposed to be in the first place. But then again, you probably have a better chance getting a date with (name your favorite TV/Movie "babe") than getting a decent NASCAR sim in this case. -- Sergey Zakharov

EA has used this approach with great success (for them) with the Need for Speed series for years!!! We'll see if NASCAR fans are as dumb as the general public in paying twice for the same thing. But then I own MGPRS2 and F1RS and Nascar Racing 1999 and Nascar 2, so what I am talking about?????????? Given the history with NFS and what we read at Adrenaline, I think Nascar Revulsion SE will be a much less substantial patch than either MGPRS2 or NR1999. Marc.

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> > The Adrenaline Vault has learned this special edition will be the > > patched version EA claims features superior gameplay. > > (comment: LOL!!!) > LOL(again)! "Special Edition" in a situation like this simply means (at > least to me) that you buy the game (again) to get the patch that makes > the game what it was supposed to be in the first place. But then again, > you probably have a better chance getting a date with (name your > favorite TV/Movie "babe") than getting a decent NASCAR sim in this case. > -- > Sergey Zakharov

Actually this doesn't surprise me, and I was awaiting for such marketing plot by EA Sports. They WILL have to make competition to Sierra Sports for Christmas. They can't accept only 1 Nascar title on the American software shelves for the biggest sales period of the year (N3). Without time to create a real title (but the same can be said by Papyrus), they revamp Nrevolution. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

People who already own NR don't have to pay for it again. They download a free patch. David G Fisher

Marc Collins schrieb: Hmm, those were evolutions of great sims. You can improve a great base, but when you start out with rubbish, what do you get after "improving" it? ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

VFactor wrote Improvement? The game was completely unusable prior to the patch. Now it is, well, playable - and since Revolution is nothing more than a game, we really shouldn't even be discussing it in rec.autos.simulators.

Since they're all "games" and since people discuss games in this group (TOCA2, NFSIII, NFS:HS, etc.) what's wrong with discussing this game (NASCAR Revolution), other than the fact you apparently hate it? BD On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:17:36 -0500, "Tracey A Miller"

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>VFactor wrote >>I didn't buy the game so don't ask me if the patch offered much of an >>improvement... >Improvement? The game was completely unusable prior to the patch. Now it is, >well, playable - and since Revolution is nothing more than a game, we >really shouldn't even be discussing it in rec.autos.simulators.

Bob, You must understand this is not always a group of rational people discussing simulations. This is quite often a religious forum. Anyone who is not bringing in an uncompromisingly accurate and difficult to drive mathematical simulation is going to get ripped as "arcade" and those that claim to like it will be told to take their toys and go elsewhere. Rec.autos.simulators has an elitist tone to it that is often intolerant and ugly. Unfortunate but true. I do what I can to try to balance the passions of a simhead (which I am) with the love of a good game (which I often have, even for non-diehard-sims). I think the religious fervor is exacerbated by the fact that so many believe that only they know what separates a sim from an arcade game, and when a company comes out and advertises their game as "realistic", LOOK OUT! Randy

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>Since they're all "games" and since people discuss games in this group >(TOCA2, NFSIII, NFS:HS, etc.) what's wrong with discussing this game >(NASCAR Revolution), other than the fact you apparently hate it? >BD >On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:17:36 -0500, "Tracey A Miller" >>VFactor wrote >>>I didn't buy the game so don't ask me if the patch offered much of an >>>improvement... >>Improvement? The game was completely unusable prior to the patch. Now it is, >>well, playable - and since Revolution is nothing more than a game, we >>really shouldn't even be discussing it in rec.autos.simulators.

Randy Magruder http://members.home.com/rmagruder

Very well put! -- Chad 1993 Firebird Formula LT1 350, 6-Speed 1991 Mitsubishi Eclipse 2.0, Auto *beater car* HotWheels collector and car fanatic! Fast_LT1 on TEN online racing Go #3 E and #3 e http://users.lcworkshop.com/chadds Remove "no spam" from my E-mail adress > Bob, > You must understand this is not always a group of rational people > discussing simulations. This is quite often a religious forum. > Anyone who is not bringing in an uncompromisingly accurate and > difficult to drive mathematical simulation is going to get ripped as > "arcade" and those that claim to like it will be told to take their > toys and go elsewhere. > Rec.autos.simulators has an elitist tone to it that is often > intolerant and ugly. Unfortunate but true. I do what I can to try to > balance the passions of a simhead (which I am) with the love of a good > game (which I often have, even for non-diehard-sims). > I think the religious fervor is exacerbated by the fact that so many > believe that only they know what separates a sim from an arcade game, > and when a company comes out and advertises their game as "realistic", > LOOK OUT! > Randy > >Since they're all "games" and since people discuss games in this group > >(TOCA2, NFSIII, NFS:HS, etc.) what's wrong with discussing this game > >(NASCAR Revolution), other than the fact you apparently hate it? > >BD > >On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:17:36 -0500, "Tracey A Miller" > >>VFactor wrote > >>>I didn't buy the game so don't ask me if the patch offered much of an > >>>improvement... > >>Improvement? The game was completely unusable prior to the patch. Now it is, > >>well, playable - and since Revolution is nothing more than a game, we > >>really shouldn't even be discussing it in rec.autos.simulators. > Randy Magruder > http://members.home.com/rmagruder

Bob Davidson wrote I never said I hated it, after all it's the only NASCAR "game" I can "play" with my FF wheel. It just isn't a "simulator", and really doesn't pretend to be. Discussing it here is like discussing comic books on a literature group. Not that I dislike comic books.

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:50:40 -0500, "Tracey A Miller"

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>Bob Davidson wrote >>Since they're all "games" and since people discuss games in this group >>(TOCA2, NFSIII, NFS:HS, etc.) what's wrong with discussing this game >>(NASCAR Revolution), other than the fact you apparently hate it? >I never said I hated it, after all it's the only NASCAR "game" I can "play" >with my FF wheel. It just isn't a "simulator", and really doesn't pretend to >be.

Actually the box reads: "AUTHENTIC RACING" and "The First Raceable Simulation - It's only hard to drive well enough to WIN" and "FULL SIMULATION DEPTH AND OPTIONS". Sounds like they want to be considered a simulation. It's not hard for most people to tell the difference between a comic book and a novel. It's a lot harder to decide where to draw the line between which games should be called "games" and which games should be called "simulators". BD

Bob Davidson wrote simulation. I seem to remember similar quotes on Monster Truck Madness box. <G> I bet even the programmers themselves had to blush when they read that. The cars simply defy the laws of physics in this "game" making it so easy even my 5 year old nephew had fun with it. But they always seem to make sure that at least 1 AI car keeps up with you to keep it competitive. I had hours of fun playing through a full season with it, but I never felt like I was "simulating" anything. The EA Sports logo is usually a dead giveaway. <G>