GPL 1.1 is worthless garbage

Worse than that... It took the best game I've ever had on my computer and turned it into worthless garbage. Which is worse. Because I know what I'm missing. With CPR I didn't know what I was missing, so it seemed OK. Now I have two versions of CPR on my machine and one is called GPL. CONTROLLER LATENCY!!! Which wouldn't be a problem except that when I go back to the box version of GPL I'll be playing myself because 1.1 won't allow box people to play with those who have 1.1. So, not only does 1.1 ruin GPL, it excludes those fortunate enough to avoid it from "enjoying" the game without it. Sounds like a virus to me. -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA

Instead of whining like a little girl, why don't you explain what the real problem is? What do you mean by controller latency? What controller are you using? It could be a gamepad for all we know. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com Worse than that... It took the best game I've ever had on my computer and turned it into worthless garbage. Which is worse. Because I know what I'm missing. With CPR I didn't know what I was missing, so it seemed OK. Now I have two versions of CPR on my machine and one is called GPL. CONTROLLER LATENCY!!! Which wouldn't be a problem except that when I go back to the box version of GPL I'll be playing myself because 1.1 won't allow box people to play with those who have 1.1. So, not only does 1.1 ruin GPL, it excludes those fortunate enough to avoid it from "enjoying" the game without it. Sounds like a virus to me. -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA

Believe it or not, my controller effeciency has improved massively since 1.1! I mean it! At last I can control the car. I have: Pentium 2 at 466 ASUS V3400 128 MB SDRAM T2 wheel Up to now, all Papyrus sims were undrivable, because of controller latency. GPL 1.1 patch fixed it for me, really.

Yeah, I was pretty pissed off to find out that my shiny new 'version' of GPL had reduced my favorite sim to nothing more than an arcade. If I turn the wheel now, and the front wheels on my virtual race car turn one second from now, that is controller latency. Obviously there is latency in every system, but in this case it's high enough to allow modulation (by me) that I am unaware of until it's way too late. I know my rig well enough and have spent enough time goofing around with GPL on it to know CL when I feel it. It's it. Now, my original post still stands, and if you play sims yourself, you should be able to read between the lines. My wife resents the 'girl' remark and my gamepad kicks ass.***. :-) -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA

I believe you. We've seen many reports claiming reduced frame rate with 1.1 but the very first thing I noticed was wicked fast frame rates. Really. It's screaming graphically. Naturally the second thing I noticed was that the car was extremely fishy with tank slappers waiting at every bend. What stumps me is, with all the variables that seem so destructive after the patch, how on earth the original game ran so consistently on so many different systems? Did they get really lucky over there? Or were they too shortsighted on the patch? Focusing too *** a few things at the cost of negligence to others? I'm thinking that it's just running on too many different systems and there's probably nothing anyone can do about that. But I wouldn't have minded a patch that just plain left the controller alone. Of course, it's the opposite for you.... P233mmx Asus TX97 32ram Diamond V1 Awe 64 TM ACM TSW Sport I think we can all guess how my system was overlooked in testing. But that doesn't help me any. I'm reduced to racing off-line until I can get a new rig. Personally, I have other things I want to spend my money on, and my GPL was working just fine before they *fixed* it. -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA

Looking at your system specs, you have a very similar system to mine, I have a P225mmx & voodoo1. I'd be willing to bet the tank slappers are comming from your slow cpu. I can get smooth 36 fps only by turning off most graphic option. When you start losing frames, the handling suffers. I'm thinking any Pentium just can't keep up with gpl's number crunching, add to that your first gen voodoo and your not really seeing gpl in it's best light... as always, your mileage may vary ! dave henrie >What stumps me is, with all the variables that seem so destructive after the

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>patch, how on earth the original game ran so consistently on so many >different systems? Did they get really lucky over there? Or were they too >shortsighted on the patch? Focusing too *** a few things at the cost of >negligence to others? >I'm thinking that it's just running on too many different systems and >there's probably nothing anyone can do about that. But I wouldn't have >minded a patch that just plain left the controller alone. Of course, it's >the opposite for you.... >P233mmx >Asus TX97 >32ram >Diamond V1 >Awe 64 >TM ACM >TSW Sport >I think we can all guess how my system was overlooked in testing. But that >doesn't help me any. I'm reduced to racing off-line until I can get a new >rig. Personally, I have other things I want to spend my money on, and my

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>was working just fine before they *fixed* it. >-- >Mark Jeangerard >www.soundchaserweb.com >New Mexico USA >> Believe it or not, my controller effeciency has improved massively since >> 1.1! I mean it! >> At last I can control the car. >> I have: >> Pentium 2 at 466 >> ASUS V3400 >> 128 MB SDRAM >> T2 wheel >> Up to now, all Papyrus sims were undrivable, because of controller >latency. >> GPL 1.1 patch fixed it for me, really.

>Yeah, I was pretty pissed off to find out that my shiny new 'version' of GPL >had reduced my favorite sim to nothing more than an arcade. Understandable. What wheel, CPU and RAM do you have? Do you race online? I have never experienced this in any driving game. I haven't read that GPL had this problem with anyone other than you. Did I miss some posts? Yeah? I have to gamepads! And give your wife my apologies :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com