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Ed Bain, What about your TSW Wheel

6 posts by 4 people · 17 Jul 1999 - 20 Jul 1999

pqt2 17 Jul 1999#480932
A while back you said you were getting aTSW wheel. Let's here about it! Whats your opinion(pros &cons) on it v.s. your other wheels(I'm starting to think about what Santa can bring me)? Paul
Ed Ba 17 Jul 1999#480933
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:29:09 GMT, It is INCREDIBLE! I don't know exactly how to describe the feel of it, but I will try. I have had several wheels in the past. T1, T2 and Force RS, are the most recent. Compared to those wheels, the steering is -very- precise. I can make very minute corrections and the sim will respond properly. There is absolutely no slop in the mechanism. That being said, it has a -slight- bit of movement at the center of travel before the springs come into play. That makes it very easy to make minor corrections without fighting the spring force. It's not like a dead-zone, since the pots will be moved when you move the wheel. It is like a tiny correction zone, if you catch what I'm saying. My lap times dropped in several sims after getting the TSW. What I have just told you about the precision of it, is it's strongest point,other than being built like a tank.. :) I drove GPL with my Force RS when 1.1 was released and it was very cool, but somehow I missed the solid, positive feeling I got with the TSW, so the Force RS is back under my bed, for now.. :). Also, the pedals and the shifters are of the same high quality. With the pedals, you also can make tiny movements and have the car respond. Also, the pedals work fine with the Force RS, so you can have great FF and great pedals, in GPL! My TSW has dual-axis, a (perfectly positioned) side shifter, paddle shifters and a suede covered kart racing wheel. The paddle shifters are nearly identical to the images of real F1 wheels that you can see at this site: http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/gallery.htm Specifically, the paddle shifters are are steel and are darn close to the ones you can make out on this Sauber wheel: http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/images/sauber.jpg My wheel is blue-suede and is very similar to this wheel from a Williams Renault Touring Car: http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/images/willren.jpg The side-shifter is so nice and well-positioned though, I have not used the paddle shifters since I got the wheel.. If I could only change one thing about it, it would be that I wish it had some buttons. You only have the normal shifters, with no extra buttons unless you buy the add-on 'button kit'. I would say, in a nutshell, it has a very tight, high precision feel to it, and I'm glad I bought it. If you were here, I would let you try it out! -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com
pqt2 18 Jul 1999#481163
Thanks Ed, your observations are appreciated. Paul
Quoted text (65 lines)> On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:29:09 GMT, > > A while back you said you were getting aTSW wheel. Let's here about > >it! > >Whats your opinion(pros &cons) on it v.s. your other wheels(I'm starting > >to think about what Santa can bring me)? Paul > It is INCREDIBLE! I don't know exactly how to describe the feel > of it, but I will try. I have had several wheels in the past. T1, T2 > and Force RS, are the most recent. Compared to those wheels, > the steering is -very- precise. I can make very minute corrections > and the sim will respond properly. There is absolutely no slop in > the mechanism. That being said, it has a -slight- bit of movement > at the center of travel before the springs come into play. That > makes it very easy to make minor corrections without fighting > the spring force. It's not like a dead-zone, since the pots will > be moved when you move the wheel. It is like a tiny correction > zone, if you catch what I'm saying. My lap times dropped in > several sims after getting the TSW. > What I have just told you about the precision of it, is it's strongest > point,other than being built like a tank.. :) I drove GPL with my > Force RS when 1.1 was released and it was very cool, but somehow > I missed the solid, positive feeling I got with the TSW, so the > Force RS is back under my bed, for now.. :). Also, the pedals and > the shifters are of the same high quality. With the pedals, you > also can make tiny movements and have the car respond. Also, the > pedals work fine with the Force RS, so you can have great FF > and great pedals, in GPL! > My TSW has dual-axis, a (perfectly positioned) side shifter, > paddle shifters and a suede covered kart racing wheel. > The paddle shifters are nearly identical to the images of > real F1 wheels that you can see at this site: > http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/gallery.htm > Specifically, the paddle shifters are are steel and are darn > close to the ones you can make out on this Sauber wheel: > http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/images/sauber.jpg > My wheel is blue-suede and is very similar to this wheel from a > Williams Renault Touring Car: > http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/images/willren.jpg > The side-shifter is so nice and well-positioned though, I have not > used the paddle shifters since I got the wheel.. > If I could only change one thing about it, it would be that I wish > it had some buttons. You only have the normal shifters, with no > extra buttons unless you buy the add-on 'button kit'. > I would say, in a nutshell, it has a very tight, high precision feel > to it, and I'm glad I bought it. If you were here, I would let you try > it out! > -- > * rrevved at mindspring dot com > * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. > * http://www.cabal.net > * http://www.sputum.com
<snip> Agreed with all you describe except: I didn't improve *any* laptime, I just drive a lot smoother and safe since owning my TSW. Here, a MSFF is collecting dust :) I got the Sport-version and I included a button-kit, useful for clutch or look-left/look-right......Ed, would you know whether it's possible to program these buttons? I would like F10 on my left button, while I already have the cluch on the right one. cya Markus
Ed Ba 18 Jul 1999#481165
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:58:54 +0200,
Quoted text (17 lines)><snip> >> My lap times dropped in >> several sims after getting the TSW. ><snip> >> If I could only change one thing about it, it would be that I wish >> it had some buttons. You only have the normal shifters, with no >> extra buttons unless you buy the add-on 'button kit'. >Agreed with all you describe except: I didn't improve *any* laptime, I just >drive a lot smoother and safe since owning my TSW. Here, a MSFF is >collecting dust :) >I got the Sport-version and I included a button-kit, useful for clutch or >look-left/look-right......Ed, would you know whether it's possible to >program these buttons? I would like F10 on my left button, while I already >have the cluch on the right one. >cya >Markus
Markus, theres no way to program the buttons on the TSW through normal means. My guess is that you can use one of the joystick button utilities that are available on some sites. They will allow you to link a keyboard command to a joystick button press. I don't have a link to any of them, but I bet with some searching you could find one that will work. Trevor at TSW may even know of a utility. -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com
BJenk659 20 Jul 1999#481578
Hey guys I just bought an SRC wheel this weekend and all I can say is it is the best wheel out there! Our league from TEN just had its 2nd annual get together in Darlington N.C. I flew 3000 miles to attend this event with over 20 other drivers. We had the chance to test the SRC side by side (so to speak) with an ECCI CDS 5000 system. The SRC is by far a better racing controller! some of the other guys have TSW systems, and the agree that the SRC is better. It has dual /single swith for all games, computer laser cut parts, all stainless and aluminum construction. Many options including a clutch pedal! The pedals are swing down models like the real cars and are adjustable up and down front to back. Check it out before you make your final decision. http://www.mindspring.com/~srcwheel Bruce

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