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This is the text from a full page advert placed by "MicroProse Grand Prix" (yes that's the company name used) and HASBRO Interactive in this weeks AUTOSPORT Magazine. -------------------------------------- " Will you qualify? ARTISTS & PROGRAMMERS EXCELLENT PLUS BIG-HITTER BENEFITS Chipping Sodbury, Nr Bristol Following the recent signing of a major new deal with the legendary Geoff Crammond and the FOA, we're looking to build the No.1 eam for racing simulation development. You're self-motivated and a professional. You live and breathe creativity and quality. You have a passion for developing games for the next generation platforms. You understnad deadlines, are a strong communicator and enjoy working in a team as sharp as a pit-stop crew. Your track record speaks for itself. Artists You're a born natural in a couple of these; texturing, lo-poly 3D modelling, graphic design and film editing. Knowledge of 3DS MAX, Photoshop, Fractal Painter and AniPro would be highly desirable. Programmers Your C/C++, PC assembler or Playstation programming skills are proven. You'll also be up to speed with at least one of these; 3D effects/techniques, networking and multi-player, tools programming, UI and AI. If you want to part of the ultimate F1 games team, please send you CV and other relavent material to: Guy Rawlinson MicroProse UK The Ridge Chipping Sodbury Bristol UK BS37 6BN" ---- --------------------------------------------- Well, that makes for interesting reading. Key points: 1) Networking and Multi-Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2) WTF is UI?? 3)WTF is lo-poly 3D? (that one worries me) 4) The pure existance of this advert means that all our assumptions that Goeff Crammond has been privately working on GP3 the past few years and that is is fininshed and just awaiting the FOA license, well they're ***aren't they. I presume Geoff Crammond hasn't written much of GP3 yet because the advert asks for Programmers who can do 3D effects, and AI. If the 3D and AI aren't done yet, then there isn't really much that has been done yet. And if they need programmers for 3D and artists for 3D we can assume that GP3 will have it's own game and 3D engine, and will not borrow that used by GP500. Oh, one final thing. If the game ain't wriiten yet, don't expect to see it for, well, we all know how long GP2 took. David Cane

: Key points: : 2) WTF is UI?? user interface. : 3)WTF is lo-poly 3D? (that one worries me) afaik, it's a 3d model of something that looks as good as a hi-poly one, but which is consequently faster to render, and you can get more of them on screen. i think < 1000 polygons is _a_ definition of lo-poly. going from the original hi-poly models to the lo-poly ones is a bit of a black art, and can't be automated very well. hence the need for skilled people to make the results look good. martin. --

If you ask me nothing of GP3 is done.... They still have to start working on it.... God this sux.... -MiXer-

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>This is the text from a full page advert placed by "MicroProse Grand Prix" >(yes that's the company name used) and HASBRO Interactive in this weeks >AUTOSPORT Magazine. > -------------------------------------- >" >Will you qualify? >ARTISTS & PROGRAMMERS > EXCELLENT PLUS BIG-HITTER BENEFITS Chipping Sodbury, Nr Bristol >Following the recent signing of a major new deal with the legendary Geoff >Crammond and the FOA, we're looking to build the No.1 eam for racing >simulation development. >You're self-motivated and a professional. >You live and breathe creativity and quality. >You have a passion for developing games for the next generation platforms. >You understnad deadlines, are a strong communicator and enjoy working in a >team as sharp as a pit-stop crew. >Your track record speaks for itself. >Artists >You're a born natural in a couple of these; >texturing, lo-poly 3D modelling, graphic design and film editing. >Knowledge of 3DS MAX, Photoshop, Fractal Painter and AniPro would be highly >desirable. >Programmers >Your C/C++, PC assembler or Playstation programming skills are proven. >You'll also be up to speed with at least one of these; >3D effects/techniques, networking and multi-player, tools programming, UI >and AI. >If you want to part of the ultimate F1 games team, please send you CV and >other relavent material to: >Guy Rawlinson >MicroProse UK >The Ridge >Chipping Sodbury >Bristol >UK >BS37 6BN" > ---

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>--------------------------------------------- >Well, that makes for interesting reading. >Key points: >1) Networking and Multi-Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >2) WTF is UI?? >3)WTF is lo-poly 3D? (that one worries me) >4) The pure existance of this advert means that all our assumptions that >Goeff Crammond has been privately working on GP3 the past few > years and that is is fininshed and just awaiting the FOA license, well >they're ***aren't they. >I presume Geoff Crammond hasn't written much of GP3 yet because the advert >asks for Programmers who can do 3D effects, and AI. >If the 3D and AI aren't done yet, then there isn't really much that has

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>done yet. And if they need programmers for 3D and artists for 3D we can >assume that GP3 will have it's own game and 3D engine, and will not borrow >that used by GP500. >Oh, one final thing. If the game ain't wriiten yet, don't expect to see it >for, well, we all know how long GP2 took. >David Cane

PLAYSTATION?? That's a bit worrying, innit? Rob Swindells 4th in Goldline Bearing FFord Championship (12 Points); 8 points behined Championship Leader (as of round 3 of 6)

Yes, i think you're right! It think it won't be out before 2001. But still it could mean that the driving model is writen writen and all they have to do is paint it! Yes, I know, I'm a dreamer! Wake me up in 2002. But hey, who needs GP3 if we have GPL? Borut

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> If you ask me nothing of GP3 is done.... > They still have to start working on it.... God this sux.... > -MiXer- > >This is the text from a full page advert placed by "MicroProse Grand

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> >(yes that's the company name used) and HASBRO Interactive in this weeks > >AUTOSPORT Magazine. > > -------------------------------------- > >" > >Will you qualify? > >ARTISTS & PROGRAMMERS > > EXCELLENT PLUS BIG-HITTER BENEFITS Chipping Sodbury, Nr Bristol > >Following the recent signing of a major new deal with the legendary Geoff > >Crammond and the FOA, we're looking to build the No.1 eam for racing > >simulation development. > >You're self-motivated and a professional. > >You live and breathe creativity and quality. > >You have a passion for developing games for the next generation

platforms. > >You understnad deadlines, are a strong communicator and enjoy working in a

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> >team as sharp as a pit-stop crew. > >Your track record speaks for itself. > >Artists > >You're a born natural in a couple of these; > >texturing, lo-poly 3D modelling, graphic design and film editing. > >Knowledge of 3DS MAX, Photoshop, Fractal Painter and AniPro would be

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> >desirable. > >Programmers > >Your C/C++, PC assembler or Playstation programming skills are proven. > >You'll also be up to speed with at least one of these; > >3D effects/techniques, networking and multi-player, tools programming, UI > >and AI. > >If you want to part of the ultimate F1 games team, please send you CV and > >other relavent material to: > >Guy Rawlinson > >MicroProse UK > >The Ridge > >Chipping Sodbury > >Bristol > >UK > >BS37 6BN"

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> - > >--------------------------------------------- > >Well, that makes for interesting reading. > >Key points: > >1) Networking and Multi-Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >2) WTF is UI?? > >3)WTF is lo-poly 3D? (that one worries me) > >4) The pure existance of this advert means that all our assumptions that > >Goeff Crammond has been privately working on GP3 the past few > > years and that is is fininshed and just awaiting the FOA license,

well > >they're ***aren't they. > >I presume Geoff Crammond hasn't written much of GP3 yet because the advert > >asks for Programmers who can do 3D effects, and AI. > >If the 3D and AI aren't done yet, then there isn't really much that has > been > >done yet. And if they need programmers for 3D and artists for 3D we can > >assume that GP3 will have it's own game and 3D engine, and will not borrow > >that used by GP500. > >Oh, one final thing. If the game ain't wriiten yet, don't expect to see it > >for, well, we all know how long GP2 took. > >David Cane

>2) WTF is UI?? User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few questions for our resident brits: Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have high-speed internet connections there? ;-) Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Re Bristol 1. Approx 120 miles due East London 2. 2nd highest Poll Tax in the country 3. House prices going through the roof (pardon pun) 4. Decent nightlife 5. Shit loads of restraunts 6. Two totally ***football teams 7. One half decent cricket team 8. 2hrs 5mins from Silverstone (on practise day) 9. Home town of Baldrick from Blackadder and Massive Attack Oh and Chipping Sodbury has a half decent golf course

living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? << I live in Bristol! :-) It's chaos in Bristol city center at the moment, but it should clear up. The city is one of the most trendy in England (apparently) and Clifton Suspension Bridge must be one of the most popular suicide spots in the country :) The Bristol 'accent' is horrible and will likely irritate you for a while, but you get used to it. (I speak proper, by the way :) Unfortunately in the next few years, I think they'll introduce a 1 a day charge for driving into the center on week days :-(((((((( I've never met Geoff Crammond... Rob Swindells 4th in Goldline Bearing FFord Championship (12 Points); 8 points behined Championship Leader (as of round 3 of 6)

while, but you get used to it. (I speak proper, by the way :) ahh- but if you speak english, you speak 'properLY'..... sorry, couldn't resist :) i know what you meant.

Hiring new employees has got to be the sign of a BIG project. Let's just hope it doesn't turn out like Falcon 4.0. Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com/?z The Internet's Discussion Network The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Unless you speak proper English of course <G> Mark

And it aint Bristol. It's Brizzle <G> Mark

Why? If a PSX version is produced, so what? And perhaps PSX programming skills are suitable for development on a PC platform.

Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the most civilised of British centres of so-called civilisation. They actually speak a dialect that is identifiable by other English-speaking nationalities. The weather is excellent......for Britain. It only rains 5 out of the 7 days of the week and on the other two days the sun occasionally appears from behind the clouds. Standard of living is on a par with Bangladesh..........or Liverpool. Cost of living is low.........at the local markets the exchange rate for a goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your pick.

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> >2) WTF is UI?? > User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few > questions for our resident brits: > Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of > living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? > And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have > high-speed internet connections there? ;-) > Joe McGinn > ========================================== > Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network > [link lost in import: /***.com/] > ==========================================

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>Why? >If a PSX version is produced, so what? >And perhaps PSX programming skills are suitable for development on a PC >platform. >> PLAYSTATION?? That's a bit worrying, innit?

Well, I'll jump to defend the original, sortof. Note, I actually have a PSX, and just for GT! But I do note that games that are developed for both tend to be compromises. You won't get as many man-hours dedicated to making it the best that it can be on one platform. And specifically, the interface often suffers in that it may be tailered for the non-mouse environment.

Funny guy. -- DB --

Actually, it's f**ckin' Brizzle, err, y'wrurt? Innit? Eh? :-) Rob Swindells 4th in Goldline Bearing FFord Championship (12 Points); 8 points behined Championship Leader (as of round 3 of 6)

Bruce You forgot to mention that population was on the low side, as all the criminals, low-lives, scum, and other generally undesirables, were sent over to Australia last century...... SteveG > Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the most > civilised of British centres of so-called civilisation. They actually speak > a dialect that is identifiable by other English-speaking nationalities. > The weather is excellent......for Britain. It only rains 5 out of the 7 > days of the week and on the other two days the sun occasionally appears from

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> behind the clouds. > Standard of living is on a par with Bangladesh..........or Liverpool. > Cost of living is low.........at the local markets the exchange rate for a > goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your pick. > > >2) WTF is UI?? > > User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few > > questions for our resident brits: > > Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of > > living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? > > And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have > > high-speed internet connections there? ;-) > > Joe McGinn > > ========================================== > > Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network > > [link lost in import: /***.com/] > > ==========================================

lol Mark

On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:10:18 +0100, "Stephen Green"

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>Bruce >You forgot to mention that population was on the low side, as all the >criminals, low-lives, scum, and other generally undesirables, were sent over >to Australia last century...... >SteveG

Australia well there aint nothin rong whith us dun hreer we only came hrere 4 steeling a looff ov bred aint many skools 4 us convicts :) { Joe_Blow }

Oh...sorry. I simply didn't mention it because I thought it would've been pretty obvious. Of course, we should point out that those that didn't end up here were dispatched to "the Americas"! :o) > Bruce > You forgot to mention that population was on the low side, as all the > criminals, low-lives, scum, and other generally undesirables, were sent over

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> to Australia last century...... > SteveG > > Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the most > > civilised of British centres of so-called civilisation. They actually > speak > > a dialect that is identifiable by other English-speaking nationalities. > > The weather is excellent......for Britain. It only rains 5 out of the 7 > > days of the week and on the other two days the sun occasionally appears > from > > behind the clouds. > > Standard of living is on a par with Bangladesh..........or Liverpool. > > Cost of living is low.........at the local markets the exchange rate for

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> > goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your pick. > > > >2) WTF is UI?? > > > User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few > > > questions for our resident brits: > > > Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of > > > living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? > > > And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have > > > high-speed internet connections there? ;-) > > > Joe McGinn > > > ========================================== > > > Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network > > > [link lost in import: /***.com/] > > > ==========================================

Please note, he means proper football, ie Soccer! :) KQ

No, we call it Bristol. Do you know any 'Poms', ozzie? Sos for living (I'm not from Bristol ;-) Well, I'm not going to stick up for the Great British weather, but, its not that bad in summer, but its probably worse in winter :) Remember, all parts of the world have different weather. <cough cough...***er...cough cough> goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your pick. Really? Do you have proof. Now, you seem to have stereotyped the UK with the 1700's, so now I'll stereotype you, who seem to be Australian, or at least, living in Oz. Suprise Suprise, your name is Bruce! :)) Bonza. Lets put another shrimp on the Baarbi, could just do with some tucker. Yes, I have been to Australia, and yes, one of my best mates is Australian, and yes, I would like to live in Australia. :)

>Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of >living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? It's near the bit where the south part of Wales joins England - it's a very nice place, good university, nice atmosphere and lifestyle. Weather is "pot luck", much like the rest of the U.K. :-) HAHAHAHAHAHA! This is the U.K. - British Telecom. Take a look at their profits per second and you'll see how much money they take us for. OTOH they've just been forced to join the 90's and start rolling out high bandwidth services (and allowing others to do so) so expect things to get better pretty quickly. Cheers! John

Ouch.... Until the cricket team the rest sounded like Edinburgh - huge poll tax, good nightlife and restaurants and two ***footie teams. We're quite a bit further from Silverstone than 2hrs but we do have Sean Connery rather than Baldrick :-) With a name like that I should hope so - where are the sods though, or are they what's being chipped? Cheers! John

>> Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the most >No, we call it Bristol. Do you know any 'Poms', ozzie? "Bristol Cities", abbreviated "Bristols", means something entirely different in***ney rhyming slang, but I won't get into that. Dave Ewing (an American possessing too much arcane knowledge)

>>2. 2nd highest Poll Tax in the country >Ouch.... What is a "Poll Tax"? Is that where the King decides he wants some more money and sends thugs around to colect it from everyone? Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Thanks to all who responded. I consulted the "missus to be" and I am going to apply [for the user interface position].

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>>Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of >>living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? >It's near the bit where the south part of Wales joins England - it's a >very nice place, good university, nice atmosphere and lifestyle. >Weather is "pot luck", much like the rest of the U.K. :-) >>And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have >>high-speed internet connections there? ;-) >HAHAHAHAHAHA! This is the U.K. - British Telecom. Take a look at their >profits per second and you'll see how much money they take us for. >OTOH they've just been forced to join the 90's and start rolling out >high bandwidth services (and allowing others to do so) so expect >things to get better pretty quickly. >Cheers! >John

Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Sorry Bruce The Americas......?? I thought we were talking about Bristol, not Ireland...?? We got rid of most of our Paddy's with the ol "potato famine" trick...... Shame it was not 100% effective.... <g> SteveG

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> Oh...sorry. I simply didn't mention it because I thought it would've been > pretty obvious. > Of course, we should point out that those that didn't end up here were > dispatched to "the Americas"! :o) > > Bruce > > You forgot to mention that population was on the low side, as all the > > criminals, low-lives, scum, and other generally undesirables, were sent > over > > to Australia last century...... > > SteveG > > > Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the most > > > civilised of British centres of so-called civilisation. They actually > > speak > > > a dialect that is identifiable by other English-speaking

nationalities. > > > The weather is excellent......for Britain. It only rains 5 out of the 7 > > > days of the week and on the other two days the sun occasionally appears > > from > > > behind the clouds. > > > Standard of living is on a par with Bangladesh..........or Liverpool. > > > Cost of living is low.........at the local markets the exchange rate for > a > > > goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your pick. > > > > >2) WTF is UI?? > > > > User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few > > > > questions for our resident brits: > > > > Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard of > > > > living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? > > > > And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they have

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> > > > high-speed internet connections there? ;-) > > > > Joe McGinn > > > > ========================================== > > > > Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network > > > > [link lost in import: /***.com/] > > > > ==========================================

>What is a "Poll Tax"? Is that where the King decides he wants some >more money and sends thugs around to colect it from everyone? Yeah, that's it more or less. Government instead of king and the thugs are only involved if you decide you don't want to pay but that's more or less it. It's an extra tax you pay every year depending upon the size/value of your house (even if you are renting etc). The government tried it in Scotland a few years ago to see if it would work (an act illegal in itself), had riots, people refusing to pay and massice unrest about the whole thing, concluded it was a good idea and the other countries got it too :-) Cheers! John

And those of us who stayed behind had a pretty rough ride as well didn't we. 1. Executed for speaking our own language 2. Executed for practicing our own religion. 3. Starved to death whilst the British stuffed their faces with our meat. 4. Paid 10 guineas for giving up a priests head minus shoulders 5. Not allowed to vote in our own country right up to 1967 Shame the likes of you have ***ed up my country in the same manner you managed to***most continents on this planet at one time or another in history! Mark Seery (Proud to be an Irishman living in an ignorant world)

What used to be the big pink bit on the map north of the USA.

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> Sorry Bruce > The Americas......?? > I thought we were talking about Bristol, not Ireland...?? > We got rid of most of our Paddy's with the ol "potato famine" trick...... > Shame it was not 100% effective.... <g> > SteveG > > Oh...sorry. I simply didn't mention it because I thought it would've

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> > pretty obvious. > > Of course, we should point out that those that didn't end up here were > > dispatched to "the Americas"! :o) > > > Bruce > > > You forgot to mention that population was on the low side, as all the > > > criminals, low-lives, scum, and other generally undesirables, were

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> > over > > > to Australia last century...... > > > SteveG > > > > Bristol, or "Bristol Cities", as the Poms call it, is one of the

most > > > > civilised of British centres of so-called civilisation. They actually > > > speak > > > > a dialect that is identifiable by other English-speaking > nationalities. > > > > The weather is excellent......for Britain. It only rains 5 out of the > 7 > > > > days of the week and on the other two days the sun occasionally > appears > > > from > > > > behind the clouds. > > > > Standard of living is on a par with Bangladesh..........or Liverpool.

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> > > > Cost of living is low.........at the local markets the exchange rate > for > > a > > > > goat is still two suckling pigs or three daughters......take your > pick. > > > > > >2) WTF is UI?? > > > > > User Interface. Might apply for that one myself ... I have a few > > > > > questions for our resident brits: > > > > > Where is Bristol exactly? What's it like there? How's the standard > of > > > > > living compared to other areas of the UK? What's the weather like? > > > > > And most importantly are they civilized, that is to say, do they > have > > > > > high-speed internet connections there? ;-) > > > > > Joe McGinn > > > > > ========================================== > > > > > Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network > > > > > [link lost in import: /***.com/] > > > > > ==========================================

Keith Quinton schrieb: So he's talking about the game where you're only allowed to use the feet and body to move the ball. Not the other game called football where 99% of the time the ball(?) is carried in the arm pit? ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Not exactly true. I used to have some modellers working for me and the "black art" isn't really that black... more kinda grey ;) In general the conceptual artist provides drawings of the thing to be modelled and the 3d guy/girl then works on it from there. They rarely, if ever, go from hi-poly to lo-poly count models because they're just doubling their workload by making 2 models. Everyone I know works to keep things below whatever their engine people say classes as lo-poly count. Under 1000 seems to be the call for Quake 3 Arena player models but for cars etc I'd imagine 1000 polys is a fairly high number. Quake was in the region of a couple of hundred, tops. M

Well as this was announced a long time back it's hardly a shock and why is it worrying exactly? M

Well they're hardly cross portable in terms of coding but the advantages of PSX programmers is that they're good at making maximum use of the hardware available so if any did make it into the PC version they may help streamline the code. In any case it sounds like a separate team is working on the PSX version to the PC version. M

Either that or it's a tax that was repealed ages ago and replaced with Council Tax which is what you are actually talking about :P M

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>>What is a "Poll Tax"? Is that where the King decides he wants some >>more money and sends thugs around to colect it from everyone? >Yeah, that's it more or less. Government instead of king and the thugs >are only involved if you decide you don't want to pay but that's more >or less it. >It's an extra tax you pay every year depending upon the size/value of >your house (even if you are renting etc). The government tried it in >Scotland a few years ago to see if it would work (an act illegal in >itself), had riots, people refusing to pay and massice unrest about >the whole thing, concluded it was a good idea and the other countries >got it too :-) >Cheers! >John

and which is what I described. Why complicate the issue? Cheers! John

Hardly complicating it, just getting it right... do you still call cars horseless carriages?

IMO it was easier to simply explain the concept than go into the history, but of course I didn't factor nit-picking into my estimations. Cheers! John

History? I just decided to tell people that poll tax is long gone and wasn't even what you said it is anyway. You described council tax and called it poll tax... either be accurate in this matter or shut up. M

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> the PC version. > M > >Why? > >If a PSX version is produced, so what? > >And perhaps PSX programming skills are suitable for development on a PC > >platform.

Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you get a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge?

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> Hardly complicating it, just getting it right... do you still call cars > horseless carriages? > >and which is what I described. Why complicate the issue? > >Cheers! > >John

You're welcome. Any time you need a clue, please feel free to ask me. M

Bruce, coming from you that's like the pot calling the kettle grimy arse. I have lost count of the number of smart assed replies I've seen you make which don't even add any factual information. M

Isn't the saying "pot calling the kettle black", Meiji? So you DO admit that you do sit on high and cast pearls of wisdom down to the plebs?

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> Bruce, coming from you that's like the pot calling the kettle grimy arse. > I have lost count of the number of smart assed replies I've seen you make > which don't even add any factual information. > M > >Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you > >get a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge?

Ouch !!!!!!!! -- Ian Parker UKGPL League http://start.at/greenflag --

On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:47:45 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" >Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you get >a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge? Speaking for myself I generally respond in the manner of the preceding message sent to me. I certainly claim no vast knowledge, simply that people here tend to be somewhat condescending, supercilious or downright rude when disagreeing, hence I respond in the same manner. Cheers! Kettle

"It's an extra tax you pay every year depending upon the size/value of your house (even if you are renting etc)" Now either tell me that the above is incorrect or FFS give it a rest. Or are you one of these people who goes on and on and on because you so desperately want to be right? Cheers! John

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>On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:47:45 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" >>Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you get >>a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge? >Speaking for myself I generally respond in the manner of the preceding >message sent to me. I certainly claim no vast knowledge, simply that >people here tend to be somewhat condescending, supercilious or >downright rude when disagreeing, hence I respond in the same manner. >Cheers! >Kettle

Is anyone else thinking "Celebrity Death Match" now? Wallace vs. Kennewell, the simracing fight of the century! :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

Well I considered this part of the thread dead but apparently not. Whatever. Anyway I was just correcting your naming of the tax and you decided to take it further. As *I* said, you described council tax but called it poll tax and I just corrected it. M

Venue : Monza, I bags the Lotus.... Cheers! John

Your understanding of "just" needs a little work. Cheers! John

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>>On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:47:45 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" >>>Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you get >>>a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge? >>Speaking for myself I generally respond in the manner of the preceding >>message sent to me. I certainly claim no vast knowledge, simply that >>people here tend to be somewhat condescending, supercilious or >>downright rude when disagreeing, hence I respond in the same manner. >>Cheers! >>Kettle >Is anyone else thinking "Celebrity Death Match" now? >Wallace vs. Kennewell, the simracing fight of the century! :)

I read the message out of context. Kennewell *and* Wallace vs. Meiji it seems to be. Well, that's not as much fun as the match I hoped for. Now, if we could get Ymenard to fight on the side of Meiji, it could become more thrilling... Or Bruce Kennewell vs. Daxe Rexford in the ultimate RAS spelling contest... I think I better take cover now. :) PS: Please don't get angry. I appreciate the contributions to RAS by all the people mentioned above. No offense meant, just poking a bit of good natured fun of you guys. :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

But my comment wasn't directed towards John. It was aimed at Meiji. > >On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:47:45 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > >>Why are your responses usually so condescending or patronising? Do you get

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> >>a kick out of displaying your vast knowledge? > >Speaking for myself I generally respond in the manner of the preceding > >message sent to me. I certainly claim no vast knowledge, simply that > >people here tend to be somewhat condescending, supercilious or > >downright rude when disagreeing, hence I respond in the same manner. > >Cheers! > >Kettle > Is anyone else thinking "Celebrity Death Match" now? > Wallace vs. Kennewell, the simracing fight of the century! :) > -- > Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

cancellation warned.

Absolutely no offence taken, Wolfgang. > PS: Please don't get angry. I appreciate the contributions to RAS by > all the people mentioned above. No offense meant, just poking a bit of > good natured fun of you guys. :)

Are you taking bets ? <g> I dont know what a tax is but I bet on my old friend Kettle. :-) Georg

Hmm that would be interesting.. Bruce is the Murray Walker of SimRacing! Meiji is no match for me. The ability to destroy a planet is nothing compared to the power of the Force, remember... ;-) <Wolfgang ducks and loads of GPL engine fireballs pass over his head, burning his hair> Ok, now for a penalty you will be forced to race CART:Precision Racing at Milwaukee without the patch, ouch what a suffering! -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

>Ok, now for a penalty you will be forced to race CART:Precision Racing at >Milwaukee without the patch, ouch what a suffering! I never bought CART:PR after reading the criticism in RAS. Seems to have been a sensible decision. ;) After yesterday's CART race, I'm more convinced than ever that we need a decent (GPL physics engine) CART sim, however. Wasn't that an fascinating race weekend, both in F1 and CART? [How do I phrase this without giving anything away for people who taped the races?] "I really felt intense pity for someone in one of the races, and was delighted by the performance of someone else in the other race, who did a lot of overtaking." :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

writes: I enjoyed BOTH of those races, and even caught the end of the Pocono 500. BTW, nice phrasing... :-) I worry that one of the drivers will soon be out on the street, after that MASSIVE screwup...! Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.