GPL 1.1 patch works flawlessly

Before I forget: CONGRATULATIONS to everybody at Papy who was involved in building this patch!!! Just wanted to send a positive message here. After I downloaded the GPL patch I was first a bit hesitant to install it. So I made a disk image backup before testing. Well, what can I say, it works great in offline mode. Now with version 1.1.0.3 I still have a rock solid 36 frames a second (except when a race starts it goes down to 29-32). I did not see any of the symptoms that have been described here in this newsgroup. I also checked the time it takes for a replay and the GPL clock and my watch were perfectly in sync. Unfortunately I haven't got a force feed back wheel yet, so I used my home-built wheel which looks like a plain joystick (2 * 100kOhm) to the system. Wheel on x-axis, throttle/brake on the y-axis, gear on buttons. Just for reference, here's my system: Win 98 Asus P2B Pentium II 450MHz (not o'clocked) 128MB RAM Adaptec UW-SCSI Creative Labs Voodoo 2 / 12MB Diamond Viper TNT V550 Hauppauge Win-TV Creative Labs Soundblaster Live connected to a 140W Technics amplifier <grin> So, I gues my message is: don't give up if it doesn't work on your system. The patch can't be fundamentally wrong, or it wouldn't work on any system. Norbert Now seriously considering a force feed back wheel... and a last comment so you guys can flame me: Maybe it's working so great, because my PC is in such a great shape and absolutely perfect configured !

>The patch can't be fundamentally wrong, or >it wouldn't work on any system. That's isn't necessarily so. Many software bugs [that are real and fixable bugs in software] only show up on some systems. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

You are THE man.

Buy one... it's great. I can really recommend the Logitech Wingman Formula Force, but you need to hang on to your current pedals (see other posts on the subject), as the supplied pedals are not suited to GPL. There's people with immaculately configured PC's having trouble too. I don't know what makes it work for you and me and not for others, but if/when I find out I'll post here immediatly. Jan. ------

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><snip> >Now seriously considering a force feed back wheel... >and a last comment so you guys can flame me: >Maybe it's working so great, >because my PC is in such a great shape >and absolutely perfect configured !

Yes folks, that's it! All you have to do is to configure your pc perfectly, and then the patch is working great! Thanks for helping us out here man! Forever in your debt, Andre

says... Excellent! No, seriously, that was meant as a joke and they way I put it in my previous post was to make sure that everybody sees that. I'm working for about 20 years in the IT industry and am well aware of disastrous operating systems, applications, drivers, configurations, etc. The reason why I posted a bit of information about my system was to maybe help someone with a similar system who has problems with 1.1. After all, from a developer point of view, the more structured information one gets, the higher the chances that a problem can be nailed down. I'm willing to provide as much information and support as possible to make this great simulator run even better than before. Norbert

Jan, can you disconnect those pedals from the main console? Are they analog (pot inside)? If the answer to both questions is yes, then I could use my own pedals. Thanks and have fun, Norbert

Hehe, so you managed to run GPL without an operating system?! That's cool! Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

Oh, sorry, I didn't knew that you meant it as a joke, it sounded quite serious. And in that case you can hopefully understand my reaction :) About system configurations: If there's a new driver available for any of my cards, I'm one of the first people to download and install it. And lately I had quite a few completly unexpected crashes. Not only in GPL, but in many games and programs. Last Sunday my Windows98 crashed completely. Had to install everything from scratch again. I installed all the original drivers for all my hardware first. And you know what? No more crashes whatsoever since then. And everything works perfectly. No more new drivers for me, except when a game really needs it. But the new problems with the new patch.... the slowmo effect, the real time problems.... I can't imagine that it has something to do with a 'bad system' configuration... Nobody had these problems before the patch, and now lots of people have these problems. You state that you don't have any problems with the patch. Have you tried to time a replay with a real watch and compared the lap time vs real time? And your fps counter (alt-f), is it still 36 fps or higher? I'm having an fps of 37 since the new patch, and online I sometimes have an fps of 40! And I think this is related to the real time problems. Andre

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>says... >> Forever in your debt, >Excellent! >No, seriously, that was meant as a joke and they way I put it in my >previous post was to make sure that everybody sees that. >I'm working for about 20 years in the IT industry and am well aware of >disastrous operating systems, applications, drivers, configurations, etc. >The reason why I posted a bit of information about my system was to maybe >help someone with a similar system who has problems with 1.1. >After all, from a developer point of view, the more structured >information one gets, the higher the chances that a problem can be nailed >down. >I'm willing to provide as much information and support as possible to >make this great simulator run even better than before. >Norbert

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

says... I usually use the latest drivers (final, not beta), though my approach differs somewhat. Before I do any modification to my system, I do a partition image of the OS-startup partition. That's fairly easy and fast, because I never install anything except OS-components on this partition which makes it quite small (509MB in my case). That way it's just a matter of about two minutes restore, if something goes wrong. Images of stable partitions are then burned onto CD (about 3 - 4 compressed ones fit on one CD). Yeah, did that. It never showed a number higher than 36.xx, though sometimes I had to look away from the frame counter to stay on the gray stuff :) And looking at a recording, my stopwatch was exactly in sync with the displayed time. I have the feeling as if all those problems have something to do with the network setup in Loss98, but I can't back it up. I enabled/disabled my network components completely but couldn't see any difference. We had similar problems with Windows looking for WINS server and not finding them of course. Then there were problems in local network when systems exchanged their (master)browser-lists. Who knows, a Microsoft system is unstable per definition ! Norbert