GPL and OpenGL patch - how good is it on TNT2??

I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of 'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in wasting a slot on the VooDoo. I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL patch? (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200) thanks, Gavan -- There can be only one............. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

I'm running GPL ( no 1.1 patch ) with TNT2 770 32 meg ( non ultra ) with OpenGL patch on 98 ( no service pack ), Celeron 366, with 128 meg of RAM. I can only get the game 640 * 480. When I try 800 * 600 I get an exception error. I'm only in the initial stages of configuring this. I would be interested to hear if anyone has it working. ..Andrew

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>I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of >'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an >old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon >as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in >wasting a slot on the VooDoo. > I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with >respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that >games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched >to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL >patch? > (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200) >thanks, > Gavan >-- >There can be only one............. >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

I had similar problems. Solved mine by running openGLbeta 2 patch - running diamond 401 drivers- and adjusting mirror refresh rates - and turning mirror detail to just cars only. The last one seemed to be the most important as it wasn't till I did this that crashing stopped. Hope it helps. P.S I also cheated by getting sick of the hassles, I bought a Voodoo3 2000 PCI card and put it in my system. I have Viper770 and V3 in the same machine. When I want to run the other card I have to change bios setting to boot to the card I want then tinker with display settings to get the right card going. Usually takes 2 boots.I'm using win98 So now I have the best of both worlds.

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> I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of > 'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an > old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon > as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in > wasting a slot on the VooDoo. > I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with > respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that > games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched > to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL > patch? > (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200) > thanks, > Gavan > -- > There can be only one............. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

It seems to vary depending on system. Personally I've had nothing but good luck with both the Hercules Dynamite TNT2Ultra and the Diamond Viper 770Ultra. With the OpenGL Beta2 patch the Hercules (clocked at 175/200 just because some other beta software doesn't like it overclocked) runs at 1024x768 with most details on, cars only in mirrors and 36fps online and the 770Ultra runs best at 800x600. Mirror settings in the core.ini are 1. Both these cards run on either a P2-400 or a Celeron400. Considering the Xentor32 with the latest drivers has been reported to be faster than the smokin' Hercules, I'm sure you should have no problems (I ran both the latest Hercules/Diamond drivers and the latest NVidia reference drivers with GPL and had no probs). Of course these are just my observations, mileage may vary.

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> I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of > 'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an > old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon > as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in > wasting a slot on the VooDoo. > I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with > respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that > games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched > to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL > patch? > (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200) > thanks, > Gavan > -- > There can be only one............. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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>I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of >'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an >old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon >as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in >wasting a slot on the VooDoo. > I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with >respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that >games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched >to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL >patch? > (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200)

It's the best racing sim ever written. It's now $20. Look in the dictionary under "no-brainer" and you'll see a picture of a GPL box. The OpenGL patch works. The TNT OpenGL drivers are twitchy. You may need to try a couple of versions of the TNT drivers until you find one that's stable at all resolutions on your machine. Then you'll probably need to slow down your mirror refresh rate to get 36 fps all the time. (With a CL TNT 1 and a P2-412, I have the mirrors refresh every 5 frames.) Once everything is set up right, it's stable. The laggy mirrors are somewhat annoying, but not unbearable. And you can always fall back to the Voodoo 2 if necessary. -- spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.

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>I'm running GPL ( no 1.1 patch ) with TNT2 770 32 meg ( non ultra ) with >OpenGL patch on 98 ( no service pack ), Celeron 366, with 128 meg of RAM. >I can only get the game 640 * 480. When I try 800 * 600 I get an exception >error. >I'm only in the initial stages of configuring this. I would be interested to >hear if anyone has it working.

I've had all resolutions from 640x480 to 1600x1200 working, with older TNT drivers. I only really use 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768; my TNT 1 can't sustain 36 fps at 1152x864 or higher, so those resolutions aren't very useful to me. I'd be interested to hear how well the TNT 2 Ultra runs at higher resolutions. Make sure your desktop is at 16-bit color, as starting from 8 or 32 bpp tends to give immediate page faults. Try starting from different desktop resolutions. Try different versions of the TNT drivers. (Start with the newest reference drivers and work backwards through versions if you have problems.) Installed the 1.1 patch and the leaked 2.08 beta 1 TNT drivers last night. GPL worked at 640/800/1024, but only if I started from a 1024x758x16-bit desktop. And there was font corruption on some of the text in the game. I'll try the official 2.08 beta 2 drivers next and see if they're friendlier. -- spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.

On this TNT2 business. Has anyone had any success getting screenshots using the OpenGL patch? I hit Printscreen but all I get is Zero length files.

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> I've been considering getting GPL but I'm concerned at the lack of > 'out-of-the-box' support for anything other than Glide. I do have an > old VooDoo2 card in my machine but I plan on getting rid of it as soon > as possible since I have an Ultra TNT2 and don't see the point in > wasting a slot on the VooDoo. > I know theres a beta patch for OpenGL - but how good is it? ie with > respect to graphical glitches and speed? It's been my experience that > games developed for Glide experience all sorts of problems when patched > to use D3D or OpenGL. Also, does it work with the (in)famous 1.1 GPL > patch? > (I'm running a Celeron 400 at 450 and a Xentor32 clocked to 175/200) > thanks, > Gavan > -- > There can be only one............. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

-- Todd Norbury Norbury Technologies