GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

Hi, I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried it on my existing copy first too). Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1. Everything seems so slow at this frame rate! My system: AMD K6-2 333 video card: Matrix G200 3dfx card: Diamond Monster Voodoo II (latest drivers, I tried it with the old 2.03 drivers too, same thing...) Sound: SB 64 sound card I can't find the gplts.html file talked about in the install, it's not in the game directory. Any ideas? Thanks, John

I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range), but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install. I get the same framerate regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem to be a video acceleration problem. Also have an AMD (400 though). Toggling FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't seem to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff data already computed to the controller. Michael

What wheel are you guys using??? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range), >but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install. I get the same framerate >regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem to >be a video acceleration problem. Also have an AMD (400 though). Toggling >FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't seem >to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff data >already computed to the controller. >Michael >> Hi, >> I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried it >> on my existing copy first too). Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS >> when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1. >> Everything seems so slow at this frame rate! >> My system: >> AMD K6-2 333 >> video card: Matrix G200 >> 3dfx card: Diamond Monster Voodoo II (latest drivers, I tried it with the >> old 2.03 drivers too, same thing...) >> Sound: SB 64 sound card >> I can't find the gplts.html file talked about in the install, it's not in >> the game directory. Any ideas? >> Thanks, >> John

Wheel 1: TSW2 Formula w/ paddles - my preferred wheel. Got a solid 36fps with this setup prior to GPL 1.1. Now gets 25-26FPS. No change with FF toggle on or off (shouldn't be). Wheel 2: Logitech Formula Force - USB Only turned 32-34 FPS with this wheel before 1.1. Now only gets 24-25 with FF, 25-26 without FF. Low point of 20fps when sliding after hitting a wall with FF on. Can anyone explain such heavy loss in framerate between GPL and GPL 1.1 - Or was the patch intended only for those running celery 450s or better. If so, why not tell us that before we installed! Michael

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> What wheel are you guys using??? > >I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range), > >but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install. I get the same framerate > >regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem > to > >be a video acceleration problem. Also have an AMD (400 though).

Toggling > >FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't seem > >to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff data

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> >already computed to the controller. > >Michael > >> Hi, > >> I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried

it > >> on my existing copy first too). Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS > >> when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1. > >> Everything seems so slow at this frame rate!

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:31:26 GMT, I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. It runs about the same with my Force RS as it did prior to the patch when I used my TSW. I totally reinstalled GPL and then applied the patch. I haven't tried it on 1.1 with the TSW. My system: PII-375 (5x75) / Diamond MX-300 / Voodoo3-2000 (155mhz) / 128MB. I have the latest (non-quake) reference drivers from 3dfx.com. and the latest FF drivers from the ACTLABS site, with split-axis. I use the provided sample core.ini file and only changed force feedback to 1. I use the MX-300 gameport and always cancel all background tasks before running, using CTL-ALT-DEL, except Explorer and Systray. I have a 230MB fixed length Windows swapfile. Currently, I am just hotlapping at 1024x768 and the 36 fps is -really- steady with all detail on at Monza, Spa, and Nurburgring. -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:56:34 GMT,

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>On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:31:26 GMT, >>Can anyone explain such heavy loss in framerate between GPL and GPL 1.1 >I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. It runs about the same >with my Force RS as it did prior to the patch when I used my TSW. >I totally reinstalled GPL and then applied the patch. >I haven't tried it on 1.1 with the TSW. >My system: >PII-375 (5x75) / Diamond MX-300 / > Voodoo3-2000 (155mhz) / 128MB. >I have the latest (non-quake) reference drivers from 3dfx.com. >and the latest FF drivers from the ACTLABS site, with split-axis. >I use the provided sample core.ini file and only changed >force feedback to 1. >I use the MX-300 gameport and always cancel all background >tasks before running, using CTL-ALT-DEL, except Explorer >and Systray. >I have a 230MB fixed length Windows swapfile. >Currently, I am just hotlapping at 1024x768 and the 36 fps is >-really- steady with all detail on at Monza, Spa, and Nurburgring.

I forgot to mention, I only have cars/track in my mirror settings. -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com

>I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. In fact, though it may be my imagination, it seems to run just a tad smoother. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Hi John, I've got kind of the same problem. I've just installed the german patch and in the "In-Car"-View it run's _very_ jerky. If I switch to Outside-View or the other Camera-Views its running very smooth and better than before. Therefore I'm sure it has nothing to do with the force-feedback. I have a P266, 64MB and a Voodoo I. Bernd In article install of GPL (I tried it I would get 35-36 FPS drivers, I tried it with the the install, it's not in Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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>Joe schrieb: >> >I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. >> In fact, though it may be my imagination, it seems to run just a tad >> smoother. >I just noticed one thing: somewhere during the first lap out of the pits >on a newly loaded track I get a small hickup (frozen picture for a msec), >that I didn't see (or notice?) before the patch. Anybode else?

I had this problem with the original version of GPL. After loading the track and leaving the pits, the game would pause for a tiny amount of time - barely long enough to notice, but somewhat distracting. I remember this effect most pointedly on the 'Ring. It would happen every time I exited Suedkehre, and then again on other sections of the track. After the first lap, however, the effect would vanish. Back then, I ascribed this behaviour to my trusty old Voodoo1 taking her time loading a texture or two and didn't think much about it. Then, the effect vanished completely. I have no idea what ultimately caused it, and what made it go away. This quirk didn't come back with the patch. Framerates are fine, i.e. identical to those I had before. But then, I don't have (yet) a FF wheel. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.