Yep... Here we go already!
First, I got the 9800 Pro 128MB instead of the 9800 XT. I wanted it, I
touched the box, I caressed it, but I just could not see spending $200 more
for 3-9% more performance. I really wanted the 256MB of RAM, but maybe next
time.
The best way to describe the performance difference between my old Ti4400
and the 9800 Pro is this...
I ran the Ti4400 at 1280X1024, 16 Bit, No AA and no AF.
I am now running the 98 Pro at 1280X1024, 32 Bit, 4XAA and 8XAF and getting
virtually the same exact frame rates. Oh, but it's SO much prettier :)
Now, here's the problem.
I did not experience this in testing mode. Only in a race with a full 42
car field.
There are graphic anomolies to the point where you cannot race. It looks
like one of the Roll-Cage bars triples in diameter, and starts flashing in
your way across the screen.
If I drop the AA down to 2, and the AF down to 4, the problem _seems_ to go
away.
Ok, what am I missing?
-Larry
Nascar 2003 I presume? Try D3d instead of Open GL
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yep... Here we go already!
First, I got the 9800 Pro 128MB instead of the 9800 XT. I wanted it, I
touched the box, I caressed it, but I just could not see spending $200 more
for 3-9% more performance. I really wanted the 256MB of RAM, but maybe next
time.
The best way to describe the performance difference between my old Ti4400
and the 9800 Pro is this...
I ran the Ti4400 at 1280X1024, 16 Bit, No AA and no AF.
I am now running the 98 Pro at 1280X1024, 32 Bit, 4XAA and 8XAF and getting
virtually the same exact frame rates. Oh, but it's SO much prettier :)
Now, here's the problem.
I did not experience this in testing mode. Only in a race with a full 42
car field.
There are graphic anomolies to the point where you cannot race. It looks
like one of the Roll-Cage bars triples in diameter, and starts flashing in
your way across the screen.
If I drop the AA down to 2, and the AF down to 4, the problem _seems_ to go
away.
Ok, what am I missing?
-Larry
> Ok, what am I missing?
>
> -Larry
> how old is your motherboard?
dh
I am using D3D...
Yes, NR2003.
-Larry
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> for 3-9% more performance. I really wanted the 256MB of RAM, but maybenext
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> Nascar 2003 I presume? Try D3d instead of Open GL > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FRaAb.44468$yM6.16673@lakeread06... > Yep... Here we go already! > > First, I got the 9800 Pro 128MB instead of the 9800 XT. I wanted it, I > touched the box, I caressed it, but I just could not see spending $200Quoted text (8 lines)
> time. > > The best way to describe the performance difference between my old Ti4400 > and the 9800 Pro is this... > > I ran the Ti4400 at 1280X1024, 16 Bit, No AA and no AF. > > I am now running the 98 Pro at 1280X1024, 32 Bit, 4XAA and 8XAF andQuoted text (12 lines)
> virtually the same exact frame rates. Oh, but it's SO much prettier :) > > Now, here's the problem. > > I did not experience this in testing mode. Only in a race with a full 42 > car field. > > There are graphic anomolies to the point where you cannot race. It looks > like one of the Roll-Cage bars triples in diameter, and starts flashing in > your way across the screen. > > If I drop the AA down to 2, and the AF down to 4, the problem _seems_ toQuoted text (8 lines)
> away. > > Ok, what am I missing? > > -Larry > > >Reasonably new.. ABIT IT7-Max2.
-Larry
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> > > Ok, what am I missing? > > > > -Larry > > > how old is your motherboard? > > > dh >This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try Cat3.7. A
quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure to send
in a bug report to ati's driver feedback.
rms
Ive never experienced what you describe Larry. I run the latest Omega
drivers.
Personally I can't imagine not doing a clean re-install of your OS. The
time spent doing a reinstall not only eliminates a lot of possible odd
issues but more importantly gives you "peice of mind" knowing everythinng is
just right. You also get a pefect place for a fresh drive image including
the new hardware.
Mitch
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> This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try Cat3.7.A
> quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure to send
> in a bug report to ati's driver feedback.
>
> rms
>
>
Hi Larry
Is vertical snyc turned off in D3D?
I love my 9700, BTW
--
Richard "ZZ" Busch
Yes, Det 3.9.
Bad release ?
-Larry
"rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try Cat3.7.A
> quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure to send
> in a bug report to ati's driver feedback.
>
> rms
>
>
Normally,I would. But I would have to rebuild THREE different winXP boot
partitions.
Not enough time:)
-Larry
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ive never experienced what you describe Larry. I run the latest Omega
> drivers.
>
> Personally I can't imagine not doing a clean re-install of your OS. The
> time spent doing a reinstall not only eliminates a lot of possible odd
> issues but more importantly gives you "peice of mind" knowing everythinngis
send
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> just right. You also get a pefect place for a fresh drive image including > the new hardware. > > Mitch > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zjdAb.3712$[email hidden]... > > This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try Cat3.7. > A > > quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure toQuoted text (7 lines)
> > in a bug report to ati's driver feedback. > > > > rms > > > > > >Yes, verticle sync is turned off.
-Larry
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> Hi Larry > Is vertical snyc turned off in D3D? > I love my 9700, BTW > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch > >I am using the 3.9's larry, and I haven't noticed this problem. I have a P4
2.66 at 3.0, with PC333 memory running at 375mhz, and an ATI 9700 Pro. My
motherboard is an Asus P4PE (845 Chipset)
Just in case it helps...
Glen Pittman
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> Yes, Det 3.9. > > Bad release ? > > -Larry > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zjdAb.3712$[email hidden]... > > This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try Cat3.7. > A > > quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure toQuoted text (7 lines)
> > in a bug report to ati's driver feedback. > > > > rms > > > > > >It appears for the problem to show you have to:
1. Have 4xAA and 8xAF turned on.
2. Be running with a full 42 car field.
3. Have 'view cars ahead' set to a full 42 cars.
In other words, it doesn't show unless you have _everything_ maxed out.
For reference, I'm running 1280X1024X32 resolution.
-Larry
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> I am using the 3.9's larry, and I haven't noticed this problem. I have aP4
Cat3.7.
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> 2.66 at 3.0, with PC333 memory running at 375mhz, and an ATI 9700 Pro. My > motherboard is an Asus P4PE (845 Chipset) > > Just in case it helps... > > Glen Pittman > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HAoAb.47578$yM6.23841@lakeread06... > > Yes, Det 3.9. > > > > Bad release ? > > > > -Larry > > > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:zjdAb.3712$[email hidden]... > > > This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). TryQuoted text (12 lines)
> > A > > > quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure to > send > > > in a bug report to ati's driver feedback. > > > > > > rms > > > > > > > > > > > >Larry, I think you're running out of videomemory.
I got the same when running my 9700pro in 1280x960, 4xAA & 4xAF,
everything maxxed out except for in car shadows and shadow volumes.
It happend mostly at the Pwf tracks from the back of the grid and
using a hires carset.
Changing drivers didn't correct things but a 9800xt did :)
Thomas
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> It appears for the problem to show you have to: > > 1. Have 4xAA and 8xAF turned on. > 2. Be running with a full 42 car field. > 3. Have 'view cars ahead' set to a full 42 cars. > > In other words, it doesn't show unless you have _everything_ maxed out. > > For reference, I'm running 1280X1024X32 resolution. > > -Larry > > > "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I am using the 3.9's larry, and I haven't noticed this problem. I have a > P4 > > 2.66 at 3.0, with PC333 memory running at 375mhz, and an ATI 9700 Pro. My > > motherboard is an Asus P4PE (845 Chipset) > > > > Just in case it helps... > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:HAoAb.47578$yM6.23841@lakeread06... > > > Yes, Det 3.9. > > > > > > Bad release ? > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:zjdAb.3712$[email hidden]... > > > > This *may* be a Cat3.9 issue (if that's what you're using). Try > Cat3.7. > A > > > > quick search on www.rage3d.com might find something. Also be sure to > send > > > > in a bug report to ati's driver feedback. > > > > > > > > rms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My experience exactly with the frame rates. Welcome to ATI drivers.
Marc
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> Yep... Here we go already!
>
> First, I got the 9800 Pro 128MB instead of the 9800 XT. I wanted it, I
> touched the box, I caressed it, but I just could not see spending $200more
> for 3-9% more performance. I really wanted the 256MB of RAM, but maybenext
getting
go
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> time. > > The best way to describe the performance difference between my old Ti4400 > and the 9800 Pro is this... > > I ran the Ti4400 at 1280X1024, 16 Bit, No AA and no AF. > > I am now running the 98 Pro at 1280X1024, 32 Bit, 4XAA and 8XAF andQuoted text (12 lines)
> virtually the same exact frame rates. Oh, but it's SO much prettier :) > > Now, here's the problem. > > I did not experience this in testing mode. Only in a race with a full 42 > car field. > > There are graphic anomolies to the point where you cannot race. It looks > like one of the Roll-Cage bars triples in diameter, and starts flashing in > your way across the screen. > > If I drop the AA down to 2, and the AF down to 4, the problem _seems_ toQuoted text (7 lines)
> away. > > Ok, what am I missing? > > -Larry > >Thomas...you have a 9800xt??? Me too..hehe
hope all is well friend..
DC
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