Brands Hatch...Help me cure this please !!! (long)

I am about to smash the keyboard because of this.(yes I have a bad temper) My problem is at Brands Hatch in just about any car. Right now I am fighting with the Lotus. Seems I can't cure a *** tendency to snap oversteer after an understeer situation. Mainly low speed midturn.Usually can't recover from it. If I didn't know better I would think the brakes are dragging. NOT THE CASE. I have downloaded and modified just about every setup I can find. To date I have run a best of 1:38:25 in the Lotus. I know I could run at least 2 seconds faster if I could just not have to compensate for knowing this is going to happen.(fear factor).I know most of you are going to tell me I need to change my driving style but when I do it costs me dearly. I need to change the car to suit me.I simply need some direction for changes to help cure this. Your particular car setup probably won't help as it suits you and you only. I have this problem to some degree at all tracks with all cars but it is magnified a hundred fold at Brands. Thanks for any help. Joe

Follow Ed's advice and try raising the car a bit as well. You're probably bottoming on the bump ***s coming off. I had BIG probs solving this in the Eagle. I have yet to really take a hard look at Brands, but I was getting into the 1:37s and 1:36s there after a bit of practice. BTW, I started with a Zandvoort setup. -- Erik Frechette The Pits Grand Prix Legends www.theuspits.com/owheel/gpl/gpl.html

I had that problem with the Eagle. I tried just about everything and I was getting very frustrated. I ended up reducing the clutch by 1 and that did the trick. I am now an official GPL happy camper once again. I believe reducing the clutch ties the rear wheels more loosely together and results in more understeer. I use Alison Hines trick of checking the rear temps out of a corner (pg 55 of GPL "4 Wheel Drift" manual). Hope that helps Turbo!

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> I am about to smash the keyboard because of this.(yes I have a bad temper) > My problem is at Brands Hatch in just about any car. Right now I am fighting > with the Lotus. Seems I can't cure a *** tendency to snap oversteer after > an understeer situation. > Mainly low speed midturn.Usually can't recover from it. If I didn't know > better I would think the brakes are dragging. NOT THE CASE. I have > downloaded and modified just about every setup I can find. To date I have > run a best of 1:38:25 in the Lotus. I know I could run at least 2 seconds > faster if I could just not have to compensate for knowing this is going to > happen.(fear factor).I know most of you are going to tell me I need to > change my driving style but when I do it costs me dearly. I need to change > the car to suit me.I simply need some direction for changes to help cure > this. Your particular car setup probably won't help as it suits you and you > only. > I have this problem to some degree at all tracks with all cars but it is > magnified a hundred fold at Brands. > Thanks for any help. > Joe

Thanks to all who posted and e-mailed help. A special thanks to Steve Blank who e-mailed me a killer Lotus setup. In 12 laps Steve's setup got me within .42 seconds of the 2 second improvement I knew I could get with a setup more suited to me.(new fast lap of 1:36:43). As I make changes to my driving and the setup who knows, I might see some 1:35's. Thanks again Steve. Joe

I don't know if I feel sorry for you if you can get 2 sec under 1:38, (my best is 1:37.82). I had a similar problem, on all tracks. If it's worse at low speed in bends, when you have a lot of lock on, it could be pots. I re-installed drivers, re-installed GPL, after a hard drive upgrade, and the problem went away. I don't know the exact reason. I didn't change pots. I only can suspect that it was drivers or something ***ed the registry. In any case, the problem is NOT normal. My system is performing supremely well now. Another problem which vanished was the need to re-calibrate when changing tracks or cars, so that obviously is not normal either. Good luck. Sam

Raise the ride height considerably and if it is still noticeable, raise the bump ***s. You can try them in any order but it will feel better as you go up. JB >I am about to smash the keyboard because of this.(yes I have a bad temper) >My problem is at Brands Hatch in just about any car. Right now I am fighting

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>with the Lotus. Seems I can't cure a *** tendency to snap oversteer after >an understeer situation. >Mainly low speed midturn.Usually can't recover from it. If I didn't know >better I would think the brakes are dragging. NOT THE CASE. I have >downloaded and modified just about every setup I can find. To date I have >run a best of 1:38:25 in the Lotus. I know I could run at least 2 seconds >faster if I could just not have to compensate for knowing this is going to >happen.(fear factor).I know most of you are going to tell me I need to >change my driving style but when I do it costs me dearly. I need to change >the car to suit me.I simply need some direction for changes to help cure >this. Your particular car setup probably won't help as it suits you and you >only. >I have this problem to some degree at all tracks with all cars but it is >magnified a hundred fold at Brands. >Thanks for any help. >Joe