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Joystick advice.

6 posts by 6 people · 01 Jul 1999 - 02 Jul 1999

Yup, and if you like flight sims so much you should get a pair of CH Pedals. They can be used for both rudder control in flight sims and as the pedals for racing.
You could move shifting to the keyboard. If I remember correctly, Mike Laskey (one of GPL's beta testers) uses (or, at least used to use) just a stick, and he's plenty fast. Quite a mad man, actually. Randy
m.seery 01 Jul 1999#477187
I'm using a stick as well. Throttle...stick forward, brake, stick backwards, Shift up button 1 ---finger shift down button 2, ---thumb steering....pretty obvious. This is really the only practical solution owing to the fact that directional and steering input really has to be done by analogue control in GPL, as opposed to say Nascar 2 where you can get away with on/off switches. It takes some getting used to when you have to pull back slightly in order to change gear, especially when you have to do this in a long bend and have to hold a constant radius at the same time. My advice to you is to throw away all the aids and be prepared to crash a lot for a week or so. It might sound a painful prospect but ultimately, there is no gain without pain. It is the only way you will ever find any real speed. Remember that GPL needs a lot of time invested in it in order to get any real returns. Don't go looking for a free ride, whatever controller you use. -- Mark Seery GPML league director http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/mark.seery/ I'm wondering of those here that use the joystick for GPL,
Glenn, I would recommend that if you have the money, get a joy that is optically read. There is no drifting with it, and it never needs to be calibrated, it does it alone as windows boots up. And if you get Microsoft (hate the company - but their *** stuff is superb) Sidewinder 3d pro or precision pro. I would advise AGAINST shifting using buttons on the stick - shift with the buttons on the bas of the controler, ant that way you are not disturbing the balance of the car as you are shifting. I hold the stick with only two fingers of my fight hand, and use the left on the bas for shifting and holding the base. The outer edge of my palm also rests on the base of the controller, so I move the stick VERY precisely, using just a few fingers, and I find it very controlable. And Sidwinder for Falcon 4.0 is GREAT too - well, the developement team is using it! Greetings from Croatia
Quoted text (10 lines)>On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:20:04 +0100, "Mark Seery" >>Throttle...stick forward, >>brake, stick backwards, >>Shift up button 1 ---finger >>shift down button 2, ---thumb >>steering....pretty obvious. >>It takes some getting used to when you have to pull back
slightly in order >>to change gear, especially when you have to do this in a long bend and have >>to hold a constant radius at the same time. >I've tried this. I guess I just need practice. It doesn't feel >right, doing everything with the one hand, instead of two hands, two >feet. It's tough to maintain your steering precision when you're also >applying brake/throttle and shifting all with the same hand. But, the >first time I played the GPL demo, I was using the keyboard only! >I'll practice more with that configuration. >Thanks, >glen
DG 02 Jul 1999#477405
The MS Sidewinder Pro is a good joystick for driving. I used one for TOCA and it worked well. Throttle (forward) and Brake (back), for shifting I alternated between the two thumb buttons on the side of the joystick and two of the four buttons on the base. I liked the latter because it felt awkward to do everything with one hand. Dale. -- ------------------------------------------------------- Remove SPORK to reply ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyway, I'm wondering of those here that use the joystick for GPL, > what do you use for shifting? And Brake/throttle? I can't get used > to manual shifting with the joystick. Do you have pedals for > brake/throttle or everything on the stick?
Ventil 02 Jul 1999#477406
My arm is aching after a hour on the joystick.... But I agree; you learn to drive (and brake) using a stick Ventilo
Quoted text (22 lines)> The MS Sidewinder Pro is a good joystick for driving. I used one for TOCA > and it worked well. > Throttle (forward) and Brake (back), for shifting I alternated between the > two thumb buttons on the side of the joystick and two of the four buttons on > the base. > I liked the latter because it felt awkward to do everything with one hand. > Dale. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------- > Remove SPORK to reply > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Anyway, I'm wondering of those here that use the joystick for GPL, > > what do you use for shifting? And Brake/throttle? I can't get used > > to manual shifting with the joystick. Do you have pedals for > > brake/throttle or everything on the stick?

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