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ACT Labs Force RS!

11 posts by 8 people · 23 Jun 1999 - 01 Jul 1999

sharad.. 23 Jun 1999#475732
Hi all, Ok here I go again with another question about the Force RS. Can anyone give their comments on the complaint that this wheel feels "notchy" and lacks precision in games such as F1RS and GPL? Do you find this to be a problem when playing these kinds of "high precision" games? Now for some babble on the Logitech Formula Force: I bought the Logitech Formula Force and tried it for 2 weeks. The wheel was very nice, felt smooth and was very precise. The pedals weren't bad and I had no problem learning how to use them. Sure they were small and have limited travel, but it took me no time to get adjusted to them. The paddle shifters were great, no complaint there. The major complaint I had, and the sole reason why I returned the wheel was that it lacked force. Plain and simple, it didn't have the amount of force I was expecting from a wheel of this price ($215 CAD). Sure I could feel effects and bumps like those you get when you hit the wall and go over a bridge. BUT what I really would have to have felt was stronger g-force effects. I wanted to feel the wheel tugging at me when I took a fast turn. I went into the I-Force 2.0 to see if I could increase this "spring" effect. But even at the strongest setting I could still whip the wheel around with both hands without feel much too much resistance. The resistance was there but not in any strong sense. And yes I did have the latest 3.20 drivers. What I'm saying is that, the forces are smooth and do come out strong, BUT IN SOME CASES ONLY. For example, the cobble-stone road in NFS High Stakes demo was felt quite clearly, but I didn't quite get the impression that I was feeling the road very much when taking curves. And that's where I wanted the wheel to show a bit of strength. I guess what I was looking for was less of a realistic wheel and more of an arcade style wheel where forces are sometimes exaggerated for the "fun" factor. It's a great wheel if you're looking for "feeling" and realism. But in my mind, for the money I paid, I was expecting more punch from the motor. Perhaps I'm spoilt by my MS Sidewinder FF Joystick which produces a ridiculous amount of force. -Sharad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Joe McGinn 24 Jun 1999#475923
>What I'm saying is that, the forces are smooth and do come out strong, >BUT IN SOME CASES ONLY. For example, the cobble-stone road in NFS High >Stakes demo was felt quite clearly, but I didn't quite get the >impression that I was feeling the road very much when taking curves. While it's true that the Logitech isn't the strongest wheel, this may have more to do with software implementation. VERY few games have a good pull/push effects of the wheels on the road when cornering. In fact, only one game currently models this well - Viper Racing. Did you try that one? GPL will hopefuly have FF effects of a similar quality if/when the patch is released. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================
Jack Rambo 24 Jun 1999#475924
released.< Joe... Having had the pleasure of driving GPL 1.1 for quite a while now, I have to say that while the force feedback in Viper Racing and TOCA2 was the best that I'd previously encountered, neither can touch the implementation of force feedback in GPL 1.1. But what would you expect from Papy? Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL
Joe McGinn 24 Jun 1999#475925
>Having had the pleasure of driving GPL 1.1 for quite a while now, I have to >say that while the force feedback in Viper Racing and TOCA2 was the best >that I'd previously encountered, neither can touch the implementation of >force feedback in GPL 1.1. Nothing like a bit of fuel for the fire ... ;-) To tease us endlessly? :-) Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================
Larry 28 Jun 1999#476554
Another N2 before N3 ships. Sorry, I couldn't resist :) -Larry > >But what would you expect from Papy?
Greg Cisko 28 Jun 1999#476555
Has anyone ever mentioned that your online replies are very annoying? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >Another N2 before N3 ships. >Sorry, I couldn't resist :) >-Larry >> >But what would you expect from Papy?
Greg Cisko 28 Jun 1999#476556
>Has anyone ever mentioned that your online replies Should be 'one line replies' not 'online replies' :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >are very annoying? >-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>Another N2 before N3 ships. >>Sorry, I couldn't resist :) >>-Larry >>> >But what would you expect from Papy?
Larry 29 Jun 1999#476752
Well, that's better. You really didn't want to see what my original response was :) Besides, I rarely use one-liners anyway. -Larry > >Has anyone ever mentioned that your online replies > Should be 'one line replies' not 'online replies' :-)
evente.. 01 Jul 1999#477168
That settles it! I'm getting a FF wheel! Back to the original question - what do people think of the ACT Labs Force RS? Right now my decision is between the ACT Labs Wheel and the Logitech Wheel, and I was wondering if anyone had any specific likes/dislikes with either one? I already know about the Logitech pedals (but I understand I can use my TM pedals in GPL). I'd be using them both as USB devices. Right now the ACT Labs is at the top of my list, not in small part due to the RS shifter module coming soon... Thanks for any info! Kendt Eklund Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Quoted text (17 lines)> That settles it! I'm getting a FF wheel! > Back to the original question - what do people think of the ACT Labs > Force RS? > Right now my decision is between the ACT Labs Wheel and the Logitech > Wheel, and I was wondering if anyone had any specific likes/dislikes > with either one? I already know about the Logitech pedals (but I > understand I can use my TM pedals in GPL). I'd be using them both as > USB devices. > Right now the ACT Labs is at the top of my list, not in small part due > to the RS shifter module coming soon... > Thanks for any info! > Kendt Eklund
Sorry if this has been up before, But is the Actlabs wheels available in Europe, and specially Sweden? /Thanks Stefan -- ========================================================== Software Developer Phone(Work): +46-(0)243-886 01 Columna AB Phone(Cell): +46-(0)70- 665 75 67 "Computers are like airconditioners; they stop working if you open Windows" ==========================================================
Don't know 'bout Sweden, but I live in Amsterdam and got mine in a specialized computer games shop. Easiest thing you can do is sent an e-mail to ACT Labs and ask which company imports the wheels into Sweden. The import company should be able to give names of local shops near you. Also, you can always buy the wheel via mail order in US/Canada or on their own site (www.actlab.com). Good luck, Peter On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:03:10 +0200, Stefan Soderholm
Quoted text (22 lines)>> That settles it! I'm getting a FF wheel! >> Back to the original question - what do people think of the ACT Labs >> Force RS? >> Right now my decision is between the ACT Labs Wheel and the Logitech >> Wheel, and I was wondering if anyone had any specific likes/dislikes >> with either one? I already know about the Logitech pedals (but I >> understand I can use my TM pedals in GPL). I'd be using them both as >> USB devices. >> Right now the ACT Labs is at the top of my list, not in small part due >> to the RS shifter module coming soon... >> Thanks for any info! >> Kendt Eklund >Sorry if this has been up before, But is the Actlabs wheels available in >Europe, and specially Sweden? >/Thanks Stefan

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