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Little Computer Drivers seem nervous at Brands Hatch

9 posts by 6 people · 22 Jun 1999 - 25 Jun 1999

PCKid 22 Jun 1999#475445
I wasn't at the Little Computer People's Drivers meeting prior to the race at Brands so I don't know what was discussed. But they seem a little nervous at the corners. Not going in with their usual abandon. My theory is that whilst living at Papyrus they put in many laps during the programming of the sim but this is all a bit new to them. I find I can wiz past them on the corners far easier than on the other tracks. I've been looking for a Little Computer People's spokeperson to comment but so far they have been difficult to get hold of or their Little Computer People's Agents have been reluctant to comment. If they follow this newsgroup would anyone of them care to comment? Sorry for the overuse of the word comment. On a different note. I can remember standing eagerly at the fence at the bottom of South Bank whilst the good ol Ford Prefect sat proudly up on the top with the boot open displaying a lavish picnic (when it wasn't pissing Cats and dogs that is) as Jackie Stewart, Graham Hill, Jim Clark, Dan Gurnie etc roared past. Not quite the same these days is it with all the prima donnas out there. Mind you I thought Eddie's little display of boyish humour with Mika at the conference was pretty funny. As per another thread here I remember the '67 Race of Champions but I don't think it counted for the season from memory. Gotta install these new Textures for Brands the piccies look great. Stuart "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly little fellow he is"
Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this the latest evolution? In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not to worry :) > Stuart > "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly little > fellow he is"
Meiji 22 Jun 1999#475447
British? I've only ever heard Kiwis and Aussies say that. M
Quoted text (14 lines)> Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) >Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this >the latest evolution? > In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually >to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not >to worry :) >> Stuart >> "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly >> little fellow he is"
It should be referring to the wombat....not the koala. -- Best regards, Bruce. ====== The Stunned Mullet........seriously satirical stuff! http://welcome.to/the_stunned_mullet =============================================== > Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) >Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this >the latest evolution? > In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually >to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not >to worry :) >> Stuart >> "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly little >> fellow he is"
PCKid 23 Jun 1999#475696
And that's where I'm from. So it's my expression thank you :0) But I think it can apply to wombats and Koalas as they both eat shoots. I think he meant British in the colonial convict sense. Let's get back to GPL. Is there anyway to include Brands in a Season race? It doesn't appear in the lap records section. Who cares anyeway it's awesome. And much better IMHO with the new textures
Quoted text (22 lines)> British? I've only ever heard Kiwis and Aussies say that. > M > > Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) > >Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this > >the latest evolution? > > In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually > >to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not > >to worry :) > >> Stuart > >> "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly > >> little fellow he is"
PCKid 23 Jun 1999#475697
I've always had the shoots part in. Sorta adds to it don't you think? And whay should the americans have all the "In" talk anyway.
Quoted text (13 lines)> Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) > Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this > the latest evolution? > In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually > to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not > to worry :) > > Stuart > > "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly
little > > fellow he is"
Yeah, and the "shoot" part could come both before (targeting) and after (relieving) the rooting :)
Quoted text (21 lines)> I've always had the shoots part in. Sorta adds to it don't you think? > And whay should the americans have all the "In" talk anyway. > > Stuart, doesn't that simply go :eats, roots, and leaves" ? :) > > Have I always only heard the abbreviated (Sydney?) version or is this > > the latest evolution? > > In any case, from my experience our American friends are not usually > > to familiar with the British type use of the word "root" anyway, so not > > to worry :) > > > Stuart > > > "The Australian Koala eats roots, shoots and leaves. What a cuddly > little > > > fellow he is"
I finally felt comfortable enough to attempt an offline race at Brands Hatch yesterday and noticed some bizarre AI behavior. This was just a novice race (8 or 9 laps, I believe). Chris Amon was running in third after about three laps when he stopped shifting above 2nd gear. He just cruised around the track in 1st and 2nd, running laps in the 2:00 range. A mechanical problem perhaps, but what was even odder was that none of the AI tried to pass him! Soon there was a traffic jam right behind Amon. Amon just continued in this fashion and held on to 3rd place for the remaining 5 or 6 laps. I saw a couple of other instances of the AI being reluctant to pass. For some reason, Clark qualified around 12th place. He was stuck behind Chris Irwin for the entire race and never made a move on him. Also when the leader, Graham Hill, caught up with the backmarkers, he never got by them. The backmarkers were really slow too (they qualified 20 seconds behind Hill!). Anybody else notice this? Note: I am running all 19 AI with no modifications to their strength / hype except that I added the Jackie Stewart / Mike Spence patch. Dave Ewing
Neil Raine 25 Jun 1999#476065
Quoted text (17 lines)> I finally felt comfortable enough to attempt an offline race at Brands Hatch > yesterday and noticed some bizarre AI behavior. This was just a novice race > (8 or 9 laps, I believe). Chris Amon was running in third after about three > laps when he stopped shifting above 2nd gear. He just cruised around the > track in 1st and 2nd, running laps in the 2:00 range. A mechanical problem > perhaps, but what was even odder was that none of the AI tried to pass him! > Soon there was a traffic jam right behind Amon. Amon just continued in this > fashion and held on to 3rd place for the remaining 5 or 6 laps. > I saw a couple of other instances of the AI being reluctant to pass. For > some reason, Clark qualified around 12th place. He was stuck behind Chris > Irwin for the entire race and never made a move on him. Also when the > leader, Graham Hill, caught up with the backmarkers, he never got by them. > The backmarkers were really slow too (they qualified 20 seconds behind > Hill!). > Anybody else notice this?
Yes - I frigged the driver.ini file so I could run against drivers 10 to 14, and Jochen Rindt (number 10) was way faster than the others. I got past the slower drivers easily enough, but was way behind Rindt and thought I had no chance of passing him, but then on the last lap - there he was, pootling along behind a back-marker! I just overtook them both to take the win! I don't know whether there's some extra info that needs to be put into the track definition to "help" the AI to know where to pass a slower car - certainly at Mosport the faster AI cars have no problem overtaking the backmarkers.

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