It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the
ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's
the stupid drivers and "admin".
There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean,
holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high.
No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little
speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear
bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two.
He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to
racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick.
Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute
cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not
out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not
unloading more comments.
Yep, I know. His server, his rules.
Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the
AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim
instead of the wrecker.
/vent mode off
-Will
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:16:28 -0600, William Bradshaw
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>I'll stick to racing offline.
>
>
>-Will
Hey Will...
If you want a great offline league to race in, check out
http://www.nascor.net
All series...Cup, Busch, Arca, Trucks, and TransAm.
Joe Palooka
Why don't you join a good league and get out of the pick up races ?
www.informationsuperspeedway.com
Fixed setup league runs 4 nights a week starting 8:00est.
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> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > unloading more comments. > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > instead of the wrecker. > > /vent mode off > > > -WillJoe Palooka wrote:
Thanks, Joe. I'll give it a look.
-Will
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> > Hey Will... > > If you want a great offline league to race in, check out > http://www.nascor.net > > All series...Cup, Busch, Arca, Trucks, and TransAm.It was probably his Buddy. Admin's that boot someone solely for their
'Buddy' are real dirt bags.
-Larry
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> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > unloading more comments. > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > instead of the wrecker. > > /vent mode off > > > -WillIn article <[email hidden]>, William Bradshaw
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How much do you wanna bet the admin was who you crashed into?
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>He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to >racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. >Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute >cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not >out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not >unloading more comments. > >Yep, I know. His server, his rules.I'll jump in on this too. http://gscl.cta-racing.com. We run Cup on Sunday
nights, CTS on Mondays, and a T/A league on Thursdays.
Mike Horton
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> Why don't you join a good league and get out of the pick up races ? > > www.informationsuperspeedway.com > Fixed setup league runs 4 nights a week starting 8:00est. > > "William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > > unloading more comments. > > > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > > instead of the wrecker. > > > > /vent mode off > > > > > > -Will > >William Bradshaw wrote:
> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra...
Chatting during the race is unpolite towards all other drivers, as it
distracts them. Maybe that was why the admin kicked you. During a race
I'd rather 'Whisper'.
But I'd have asked him after the race whether he didn't think an apology
was due.
Achim
"William Bradshaw" wrote:
> He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to
> racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick.
> Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute
> cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not
> out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not
> unloading more comments.
If abusing other drivers (even it is relatively mild) can be justified then
the argument as to what is acceptable spirals. A simple no abuse rule is
clear and for those still racing much more enjoyable. Working out who is at
fault and allowing the victim to abuse them sounds an administrative
nightmare.
So even though you feel the innocent party the rule makes sense to me.
I'd agree with the other posters - find a good league.
Cheers
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"William Bradshaw" wrote...
The way you describe the incident it may be, in part, connection related and
calling someone a jerk over an online glitch is bad form. Might be
interesting to have a look at your replay of the incident.
You do have to realise that, due to the fact data takes time to travel from
you and your opponents to the server and back, game reality is slightly
different for each participant in an online race. The game tries to make up
for the time it takes the data to travel, but in doing so it relies on the
data always taking the same time to make the journey. If for some reason it
takes longer or data gets lost the game will make a best guess as to where
the car will go (you see him go high, he sees you clip the apron). As a
normal rythm is restored the other car may or may not jump back into
position depending on how good the game's guess was, i.e. a "warp" occurs.
Also, although I've yet to get official confirmation, I'm pretty sure the
more cars you have enabled in your fore and aft view, the less frequent
position updates on individual cars become and less accurate the position of
said car in your game becomes. I've seen errors of up to a car lenght
between my individual replay and the server replay, even with no warp
involved.
Jan.
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> <snip> > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond > race. I'm racing clean, holding my line. Some > chump driving close behind me decides to go > high. No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that > manuever to bleed off a little speed when it's > one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my > rear bumper, effectively spinning me through > turns one and into two. > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a > jerk and went back to racin'. <snip>
"William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This sounds like a typical real live NASCAR race to me.
> He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to
> racin'.
Ditto.
The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick.
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> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two.Quoted text (15 lines)
> Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > unloading more comments. > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > instead of the wrecker. > > /vent mode off > > > -Will I couldn't agree with you more. In fact I hate pick up races because of
the riff-raff that you have to deal with. That said, I find online racing
in a league to be much more rewarding than just racing the AI. With
leagues, your Sierra ratings are not an issue (but you'll find your LPI
should go up). You meet good people, and it's not uncommon to have races go
green the whole way because of the give and take with the other members. I
race in the www.informationsuperspeedway.com where I find everyone to be
very helpful, with good racing, and the best part is, it's free. There are
also many other leagues around, so I strongly suggest you try one before you
give up on Online racing entirely. And if you find a free league (like
ours) what have you got to lose?
Bobby Upward
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> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > unloading more comments. > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > instead of the wrecker. > > /vent mode off > > > -WillWow, you really take video games seriously...
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
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> It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > unloading more comments. > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > instead of the wrecker. > > /vent mode off > > > -WillTony Rickard wrote:
Theoretically yes, but if you'd have to kick every racer who calls
another an idiot at one time or another, there'd be precious little
drivers left. I know I wouldn't want to race there - if someone bumps
me off like a complete looney, I'll call him/her a looney wherever I
want (or need) to, because he/she at that moment deserved the verbal
abuse. Same if I make a mistake and punt someone off, then I deserve it
for that particular occasion. Sure, I don't yell out every time, but
sometimes there are people who REALLY should think twice at turning up
even on a virtual track...
Regards, Rudy
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> If abusing other drivers (even it is relatively mild) can be justified then > the argument as to what is acceptable spirals. A simple no abuse rule is > clear and for those still racing much more enjoyable. Working out who is at > fault and allowing the victim to abuse them sounds an administrative > nightmare. > > So even though you feel the innocent party the rule makes sense to me.Mike,
NR2003 is more than a Video Game :)
That's like telling Dale Jr. that his Chevy is just a car :)
-Larry
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> Wow, you really take video games seriously... > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > "William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It's been a pain for me to find pick-up races on Sierra. If it's not the > > ratings (yeah, I got into NR2003 a bit later than everyone), then it's > > the stupid drivers and "admin". > > > > There I was tonight, running in a Richmond race. I'm racing clean, > > holding my line. Some chump driving close behind me decides to go high. > > No problem, 'cause I sometimes use that manuever to bleed off a little > > speed when it's one-on-one. Then chumpy comes right down on my rear > > bumper, effectively spinning me through turns one and into two. > > > > He didn't apologize, so I simply called him a jerk and went back to > > racin'. The genius admin boots me a couple minutes later. What a prick. > > Did he not see the replay? Since when does calling one "jerk" constitute > > cussing? Or was I picking a fight? I think calling a person that is not > > out of line, in such a situation. Especially in light of me not > > unloading more comments. > > > > Yep, I know. His server, his rules. > > > > Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the > > AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim > > instead of the wrecker. > > > > /vent mode off > > > > > > -Will > >"Ruud Dingemans" wrote:
Well there is a difference between yelling abuse at a screen and getting on
every drivers pit to car radio to have a go at the one person who knocked
you off. Then I am in a minority that finds chatting to the whole field
whilst driving completely unrealistic and a nuisance.
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> > > A simple no abuse rule is > > clear and for those still racing much more enjoyable. > Theoretically yes, but if you'd have to kick every racer who calls > another an idiot at one time or another, there'd be precious little > drivers left.
"Robert Upward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I couldn't agree with you more. In fact I hate pick up races becauseof
> the riff-raff that you have to deal with. That said, I find online racing
> in a league to be much more rewarding than just racing the AI. With
> leagues, your Sierra ratings are not an issue (but you'll find your LPI
> should go up). You meet good people, and it's not uncommon to have racesgo
> green the whole way because of the give and take with the other members.I
> race in the www.informationsuperspeedway.com where I find everyone to be
> very helpful, with good racing, and the best part is, it's free. Thereare
> also many other leagues around, so I strongly suggest you try one beforeyou
> give up on Online racing entirely. And if you find a free league (like
> ours) what have you got to lose?
>
> Bobby Upward
If you wanna tell me the secret to green racing then please email me on
"mark at v8 thunder dot com" - no spaces, etc.
Our (free) league suffers terribly...
Cheers,
Mark
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:16:28 -0600, William Bradshaw wrote:
>
> Fuggit. I'll stick to racing offline. I'd much rather race against the
> AI than deal with dumb ass drivers and admin who boots the victim
> instead of the wrecker.
Hey will, sorry to hear of your troubles. Come join us in RASCAR, a
friendly bunch of *ssholes* ^h^h^h^h^h err drivers from all over the
world fighting it out once a week on Saturday. Great fun, clean
racing.
Cheers,
uwe
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