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Using Mutiple Monitors

11 posts by 11 people · 18 Jun 1999 - 22 Jun 1999

reddo 18 Jun 1999#474689
I have a couple of old monitors laying around. Win 98 can handle mutiple monitors. My question is how can this be done? Do I need mutiple video cards? I think it would be cool to have the left and right veiws as well as the forward veiw all at the same time. Please someone tell how to do this or send me somwhere that has the info. I've looked and looked for the info but came up dry. TIA Reddog
Jason Monds 21 Jun 1999#475244
Yes you need multiple video cards, but they need to have software to make them work with multiple monitors under Win98. Multiple monitors are used to expand the desktop. Getting separate left and right view from a car game would need to be programmed into the game itself. Too my knowledge there is no such game yet. Jason.
Quoted text (8 lines)> I have a couple of old monitors laying around. Win 98 can handle mutiple > monitors. My question is how can this be done? Do I need mutiple video > cards? I think it would be cool to have the left and right veiws as well > as the forward veiw all at the same time. Please someone tell how to do > this or send me somwhere that has the info. I've looked and looked for > the info but came up dry. TIA > Reddog
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Don Hancock 21 Jun 1999#475245
Quoted text (8 lines)>I have a couple of old monitors laying around. Win 98 can handle mutiple >monitors. My question is how can this be done? Do I need mutiple video >cards? I think it would be cool to have the left and right veiws as well >as the forward veiw all at the same time. Please someone tell how to do >this or send me somwhere that has the info. I've looked and looked for >the info but came up dry. TIA >Reddog
Caveats: 1) EACH monitor must have its own video card; 2) EACH program MUST be written to specifically write to a given monitor; 3) each subsequent monitor will demand quite a bit of resources to keep updated. Right now, no DRIVING game takes advantage of multiple monitors (MS's Flight Sim98 does, tho). There are other options: Colorgraphics (www.colorgfx.com) makes multi-monitor video cards that will spread your desktop over up to 4 monitors in any combo you want (wide, tall, square), but they're DAMMED expensive. They are AWESOME to watch, tho. Gunner
wilb 21 Jun 1999#475246
Quoted text (10 lines)> >I have a couple of old monitors laying around. Win 98 can handle mutiple > >monitors. My question is how can this be done? Do I need mutiple video > >cards? I think it would be cool to have the left and right veiws as well > >as the forward veiw all at the same time. Please someone tell how to do > >this or send me somwhere that has the info. I've looked and looked for > >the info but came up dry. TIA > >Reddog > Caveats: 1) EACH monitor must have its own video card;
See below. Sort of... Any program that can open a view in a separate window can work. MS Flight sim (for one), but no driving games that I can think of. Like what? The occasional download of a new driver? big deal. How often do those come out? See answer to #2 above. Matrox also has a new multiple monitor card out. Two monitors, DVD, the demo I saw of it looked pretty good, but is it compatible with 3dfx? I don't know. wilbur
ddjhenri 21 Jun 1999#475247
I'd be willing to guess he meant cpu cycles. So that running two monitors would really put a drain on most processors which in turn would really kill the framerates No Matrox card is compatible with the latest gen 3dfx cards since they are standalone 2d/3d. Even if you were able to get a V2 to work, you'd loose the 2nd monitor option because the V2 only supports one monitor. So pointless if your looking for 3dfx compatiblity. Hardware options like 2 monitors are nice sounding until you try and get them to actually work. and then find the software designed to actually USE two monitors. good luck dave henrie
DLK 22 Jun 1999#475436
I heard that someone at papy did setup three monitors with gpl. What was done required three computers networked with two "slave" computers "riding along" with the "master". The left/right view keys were wedged on to set the views on the slaves. Interesting idea though. > I have a couple of old monitors laying around. Win 98 can handle mutiple > monitors. My question is how can this be done? Do I need mutiple video > cards? I think it would be cool to have the left and right veiws as well > as the forward veiw all at the same time. Please someone tell how to do > this or send me somwhere that has the info. I've looked and looked for > the info but came up dry. TIA > Reddog Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Meiji 22 Jun 1999#475437
A bunch of this may be in the thread but there you go. Any application (game or "serious") that runs in windows and doesn't go full screen can support multiple monitors. The problem with the win 98 implementation is that if you have an AGP card and another PCI card, the system seems to default to the PCI card as the primary and the AGP as the secondary, something that isn't too great if you're hoping to run your latest gfx card as the main card. This may have changed by now as it's a while since I played with it however. The Matrox G400 has 2 monitor support onboard, *fast* 3D, good image quality and bump mapping. Maybe you need that? :) M
> I heard that someone at papy did setup three monitors with gpl. > What was done required three computers networked with two > "slave" computers "riding along" with the "master". > The left/right view keys were wedged on to set the views on the slaves. Yeah, as soon as I thought about multiple monitors for GPL, those side views came to mind. I'm just wondering if these side views are perhaps a bit of a prelude to multi monitor support by Papy in future sims? Or if they even toyed with the idea for GPL somewhere along the line - perhaps after hearing of multiple monitor support for win98? Anyway, this certainly would be a great option to have in any sim and would solve most, if not all, of the lack of peripheral vision issues that we now have. Not to mention the added sense of speed, depth and general perspective.
Grant Reeve 22 Jun 1999#475439
> the V2 only supports one monitor. So pointless > if your looking for 3dfx compatiblity. yes you are right that a 3dfx card only supports one monitor. But you can have up to 4 3dfx cards plugged in at once according to the Glide documentation, and if your software decides to recognise all 4 cards, it can render to all 4, giving you a 4 monitor application.
Neil Raine 22 Jun 1999#475440
Quoted text (15 lines)> > I heard that someone at papy did setup three monitors with gpl. > > What was done required three computers networked with two > > "slave" computers "riding along" with the "master". > > The left/right view keys were wedged on to set the views on the slaves. > Yeah, as soon as I thought about multiple monitors for GPL, those > side views came to mind. I'm just wondering if these side views are > perhaps a bit of a prelude to multi monitor support by Papy in future > sims? Or if they even toyed with the idea for GPL somewhere along the > line - perhaps after hearing of multiple monitor support for win98? > Anyway, this certainly would be a great option to have in any sim and > would solve most, if not all, of the lack of peripheral vision issues > that we now have. Not to mention the added sense of speed, depth and > general perspective.
For the ultimate, how about 3 monitors, all with stereo 3D using LCD shutterglasses? I guess all 3 monitors would have to be synchronised with the glasses, so that could be pretty tricky!
Jenny Smit 22 Jun 1999#475441
My company uses a 4 head Matrox gfx card for one of our petroleum simulators. We are speculating about using 3 of the new SGI NT boxes with the LCD flat panel monitors in our next driving sim....... Does anyone have any experience with this? My greatest concern has been the angle on the LCD panels causing poor colors. Do you experts think the perspective will be off, too?

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