Brands - European G.P.???

Now before anybody says I'm moaning and should be grateful for a truly great effort from Dave Noonan in creating Brands Hatch, and yes it is great; why has it become the European Grand Prix in the GPL World Championship? Is there a way to delete it from the World Championship, and keep it in the Single Race category? Brands in 1967 ran the Race of Champions (12th March) which was won by a Mr D Gurney, who set a then lap record in Heat One of 1min 32.6 sec. This was a non-championship race. Steve

does it matter?.......THAT MUCH? just enjoy the track...it's fabulous......and by the way....the reason it's called the european GP is I'm sure for simple esthetic purposes ...not for reality.The game already has a British GP on it so what else can it or could it be called to make it fit into the whole scheme of perhaps adding it later to your world championship.makes simple sense to me.

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> Now before anybody says I'm moaning and should be grateful for a truly great > effort from Dave Noonan in creating Brands Hatch, and yes it is great; why > has it become the European Grand Prix in the GPL World Championship? Is > there a way to delete it from the World Championship, and keep it in the > Single Race category? Brands in 1967 ran the Race of Champions (12th March) > which was won by a Mr D Gurney, who set a then lap record in Heat One of > 1min 32.6 sec. This was a non-championship race. > Steve

The point is that a lot of work has gone into GPL to make it an authentic racing sim. So why throw the opportunity away by creating a fantasy Grand Prix, when in real life there was a race for Formula One cars in 1967 called, not the 'European Grand Prix', but the 'Race of Champions'. Seems simple to me. In fact blindingly obvious. I mean, somebody will suggest racing Formula One cars on ovals next...... Steve

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>does it matter?.......THAT MUCH? >just enjoy the track...it's fabulous......and by the way....the reason >it's called the european GP is I'm sure for simple esthetic purposes >...not for reality.The game already has a British GP on it so what else >can it or could it be called to make it fit into the whole scheme of >perhaps adding it later to your world championship.makes simple sense to >me.

Goodness me! Look if you don't want to mar the 'authenticity' of GPL then don't download Brands Hatch. Yes a lot of time has gone into GPL but a lot of time went into Brands too. If you want to use it then do so but no one is going to force you. Either way be thankful that someone is willing to make these extra tracks in their own time and share them with us. Now *that* I'd call blindingly obvious! Matthew.

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> The point is that a lot of work has gone into GPL to make it an authentic > racing sim. So why throw the opportunity away by creating a fantasy Grand > Prix, when in real life there was a race for Formula One cars in 1967 > called, not the 'European Grand Prix', but the 'Race of Champions'. Seems > simple to me. In fact blindingly obvious. I mean, somebody will suggest > racing Formula One cars on ovals next...... > Steve > >does it matter?.......THAT MUCH? > >just enjoy the track...it's fabulous......and by the way....the reason > >it's called the european GP is I'm sure for simple esthetic purposes > >...not for reality.The game already has a British GP on it so what else > >can it or could it be called to make it fit into the whole scheme of > >perhaps adding it later to your world championship.makes simple sense to > >me.

It's not perfect. It's a great track. Why don't you get off it and go driving? Kurt Steinbock

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>The point is that a lot of work has gone into GPL to make it an authentic >racing sim. So why throw the opportunity away by creating a fantasy Grand >Prix, when in real life there was a race for Formula One cars in 1967 >called, not the 'European Grand Prix', but the 'Race of Champions'. Seems >simple to me. In fact blindingly obvious. I mean, somebody will suggest >racing Formula One cars on ovals next...... >Steve >>does it matter?.......THAT MUCH? >>just enjoy the track...it's fabulous......and by the way....the reason >>it's called the european GP is I'm sure for simple esthetic purposes >>...not for reality.The game already has a British GP on it so what else >>can it or could it be called to make it fit into the whole scheme of >>perhaps adding it later to your world championship.makes simple sense to >>me.

Stephen, I'm sure that David was unaware of the name of the actual race at the circuit when he put the track together. I'll try to incorperate that fix into future patches... Cheers! ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/

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>The point is that a lot of work has gone into GPL to make it an authentic >racing sim. So why throw the opportunity away by creating a fantasy Grand >Prix, when in real life there was a race for Formula One cars in 1967 >called, not the 'European Grand Prix', but the 'Race of Champions'. Seems >simple to me. In fact blindingly obvious. I mean, somebody will suggest >racing Formula One cars on ovals next...... >Steve >>does it matter?.......THAT MUCH? >>just enjoy the track...it's fabulous......and by the way....the reason >>it's called the european GP is I'm sure for simple esthetic purposes >>...not for reality.The game already has a British GP on it so what else >>can it or could it be called to make it fit into the whole scheme of >>perhaps adding it later to your world championship.makes simple sense to >>me.

Thanks Jan. You may have noticed that I did say I liked the track, indeed it is fantastic, but some people who have replied to my post would seem to want history re-writing rather than making plain. As an afterthought, if it is to be called the 'Race of Champions' after all, then maybe it could be used to pit all the different On-Line league winners against each other at the end of the 'season' ??? Steve

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>Stephen, I'm sure that David was unaware of the name of the actual race at >the circuit when he put the track together. I'll try to incorperate that >fix into future patches... >Cheers! >??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** >Computer Systems Programmer >USAF Air-Ground Operations School >Hurlburt Field, FL

Then by the same token, shouldn't you be deleting Rouen from your Tracks Directory? Just a thought from the other side. Mikey the (Zonie) Slowpoke p.s. that's ariZONIE, to all you easterners and across-the-pond-ers. >Thanks Jan. You may have noticed that I did say I liked the track, indeed it >is fantastic, but some people who have replied to my post would seem to want >history re-writing rather than making plain. As an afterthought, if it is to

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>be called the 'Race of Champions' after all, then maybe it could be used to >pit all the different On-Line league winners against each other at the end >of the 'season' ??? >Steve >>Stephen, I'm sure that David was unaware of the name of the actual race at >>the circuit when he put the track together. I'll try to incorperate that >>fix into future patches... >>Cheers! >>??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** >>Computer Systems Programmer >>USAF Air-Ground Operations School >>Hurlburt Field, FL

Well maybe so. I asked in this newsgroup ages ago if it was possible to create the (boring but accurate) Bugatti Circuit. It has since been shown possible with the creation of Brands Hatch that these things are possible. But you seem to be taking my point the wrong way. Do I have to say this over again. There was not a European Grand Prix in 1967. There was however a French Grand Prix. Phew, maybe one day this will sink in. Steve

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>Then by the same token, shouldn't you be deleting Rouen from your Tracks >Directory? >Just a thought from the other side. >Mikey the (Zonie) Slowpoke >p.s. that's ariZONIE, to all you easterners and across-the-pond-ers.

<Sigh> Not even going to answer... Mikey the Slowpoke > Well maybe so. I asked in this newsgroup ages ago if it was possible to >create the (boring but accurate) Bugatti Circuit. It has since been shown >possible with the creation of Brands Hatch that these things are possible. >But you seem to be taking my point the wrong way. Do I have to say this over

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>again. There was not a European Grand Prix in 1967. There was however a >French Grand Prix. Phew, maybe one day this will sink in. >Steve >>Then by the same token, shouldn't you be deleting Rouen from your Tracks >>Directory? >>Just a thought from the other side. >>Mikey the (Zonie) Slowpoke >>p.s. that's ariZONIE, to all you easterners and across-the-pond-ers.