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Any news on 1.1?

9 posts by 7 people · 15 Jun 1999 - 16 Jun 1999

walkwa.. 15 Jun 1999#474176
Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch. I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the patch stands. Anyone? -/-Walk Walker Official HAL Backmarker Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Don Chapman 15 Jun 1999#474177
When it comes to release dates for games and patches, I've never understood why more companies don't take id softwares philosophy of "it's done when it's done". Giving dates, or hints like "any day now", or releasing the readme.txt for the patch just seems to add fuel to the fire. Not making estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people. I stopped checking r.a.s and the ususal GPL web sites after Memorial Day hoping to come back in a few weeks and be pleasantly surprised. Well, it is free.......... Don Chapman
Quoted text (14 lines)>Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the >release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't >seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to >start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch. >I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the >patch stands. >Anyone? >-/-Walk Walker >Official HAL Backmarker >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
ymenard 15 Jun 1999#474178
But isn't this the exact approach that Papyrus took here ? Sorry but they never released any dates for the patch. They released the readme.txt, and some information on where the patch was (translations, testing, etc..). But that's all. The hype is created by the fans, not Papyrus. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Driver 15 Jun 1999#474179
I for one am glad they have released the info they have released, I was a low rider, so now I have a little time to work on real setups.
Jack Rambo 15 Jun 1999#474180
fire. Not making estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people.< Boy, I'll say! Developers who do that kind of thing are idiots! Hehe. Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL
Don Chapman 15 Jun 1999#474181
>Sorry but they never released any dates for the patch. They released the >readme.txt, and some information on where the patch was (translations, >testing, etc..). But that's all. The hype is created by the fans, not >Papyrus. Actually, Randy did say that the patch would be out November 1, 1998 :) Don Chapman
Ken Beard 16 Jun 1999#474408
It's a good concept, but I think a lot of us remember a rushed Quake2 for the Christmas season, with tons of patches needed to get multiplayer running right... :-) -- Ken's Sig 3.0 "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi Go #43 and #44! volksy (at) geocities (dot) com volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com >When it comes to release dates for games and patches, I've never understood >why more companies don't take id softwares philosophy of "it's done when >it's done". Giving dates, or hints like "any day now", or releasing the >readme.txt for the patch just seems to add fuel to the fire. Not making >estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people. I >stopped checking r.a.s and the ususal GPL web sites after Memorial Day >hoping to come back in a few weeks and be pleasantly surprised. Well, it is >free.......... >Don Chapman >>Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the >>release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't >>seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to >>start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch. >>I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the >>patch stands. >>Anyone? >>-/-Walk Walker >>Official HAL Backmarker >>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Don Chapman 16 Jun 1999#474410
I guess my intentions were not clear in my previous post. I'm not trying to compare Papyrus and id from a quality of product standpoint. Quake 2 was extremely buggy when it was released, just as most programs are these days(unfortunately). All I was saying is that id will not give estimated release dates on their products(or necessary patches), thus no one gets all riled up in the newsgroups about it. Papyrus' products have been infinitely more playable out of the box than most other companies, and I have purchased all their sims. They have been pretty good in meeting their estimated release dates as well. Basically, there has been a great new Papyrus product released every Fall - Indycar in 1993, Nascar - 1994, Indycar 2 - 1995, Nascar 2 - 1996, SODA/Busch Grand National Pack - 1997, GPL/Nascar 1999 - 1998 You are also correct that Papyrus(Randy, Eric, etc.) have not given a specific release date for the patch, nor has GPAL author Jack Rambo. However, it definitely has been hinted at as if it was any day now for over a month. And r.a.s itself is what takes little bits and pieces of their posts and creates its own frenzy. Releasing the readme.txt and announcing it in the newsgroup also generated more hype(even if it was released in advance just to be helpful regarding ride heights, etc.). What my original post did not convey was that I'm on the side of the developers. I would be willing to pay for the patch just for force-feedback, and I would definitely be willing to pay for GPAL based on the feature set. And since they are actually free, I'm sure not going to complain about when they are released. I'm just saying it would be easier on the developers to not hint at a time frame or give a date range, as that seems to cause alot of unnecessary frustration and negativity when the dates are missed. Don Chapman

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