sysetm specs for gpl- help required

i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix 233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator, in breif its SLOW in gpl! IS the amd 450 a good chip for gpl considering its price compared to intel p2 450 chips. I know everyones gonna go buy a celery 300a and o/c it to 450 and its fast but i dont want to o/c the sytem cuz if i cook it i will not be able to work cuz i use my pc for work and also wouldnt be able to afford to replace it. is the amd good for other aplications too such as graphics, etc. please help,! also what ram should i get amount and type jay

>i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix >233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator, (remainder snipped) Hi, Jay -- I asked a very similar question of the group a couple of weeks ago, and would be happy to send the the thoughtful replies I got if you like. It makes a difference whether you're intending to buy a new system on a turn-key basis, you're intending to try and up-grade with some of your current components, or building one from scratch. With prices dropping as fast as they are on some of the Intel chips, you MAY be able to get a better value that way. Clarify just a bit (either here or in an e-mail to me) and I'll tell you what I learned. Regards, Kurt Steinbock

im upgrading my system so ill be keeping my sblive!, voodoo banshee, 4.3 hard disk and 15"monitor other than that everythings going in the bin, i might get a fast cd rom too jay hope this helps > >i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix > >233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator,

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> (remainder snipped) > Hi, Jay -- > I asked a very similar question of the group a couple of weeks ago, and > would be happy to send the the thoughtful replies I got if you like. > It makes a difference whether you're intending to buy a new system on a > turn-key basis, you're intending to try and up-grade with some of your > current components, or building one from scratch. > With prices dropping as fast as they are on some of the Intel chips, you

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> be able to get a better value that way. > Clarify just a bit (either here or in an e-mail to me) and I'll tell you > what I learned. > Regards, > Kurt Steinbock

The K6 2 is a very good, and in my experience faster in games than an intel PII. I've overclocked mine to around 600MHz, but it doesn't need it. Anyone who buys an Intel is wasting there money. I run GPL using a Voodoo Banshee, and it absoloutely flies!

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:21:01 +0100, "JAY B"

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>i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix >233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator, >in breif its SLOW in gpl! IS the amd 450 a good chip for gpl considering its >price compared to intel p2 450 chips. >I know everyones gonna go buy a celery 300a and o/c it to 450 and its fast >but i dont want to o/c the sytem cuz if i cook it i will not be able to work >cuz i use my pc for work and also wouldnt be able to afford to replace it. >is the amd good for other aplications too such as graphics, etc. >please help,! >also what ram should i get amount and type >jay

The AMD K6-2 would be OK, but it would be much better on a K6-3. Also, if you stick a Voodoo2 in there, you should notice a big performance increase. A friend of mine who owns a Pentium MMX 166MHz with 32MB of RAM gets around 2fps in Software rendering, but reaches around 25fps with most details (but not all) turned on, once he switched to 3Dfx with his Voodoo2. Anybody know if GPL is optimised for 3D-Now, as that would make quite a big difference on the AMD's. The Excelsior "To Boldy Go Where No Man Has Gone Before... - Doh! I'm On The Wrong Ship!"

I highly doubt that GPL is optimized for 3d-Now...I don't think it's even route, the 300a is out of production, and it's in short supply... -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 RMRL #119 >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:21:01 +0100, "JAY B" >>i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix >>233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator, >>in breif its SLOW in gpl! IS the amd 450 a good chip for gpl considering its >>price compared to intel p2 450 chips. >>I know everyones gonna go buy a celery 300a and o/c it to 450 and its fast >>but i dont want to o/c the sytem cuz if i cook it i will not be able to work >>cuz i use my pc for work and also wouldnt be able to afford to replace it. >>is the amd good for other aplications too such as graphics, etc. >>please help,! >>also what ram should i get amount and type >>jay >The AMD K6-2 would be OK, but it would be much better on a K6-3. >Also, if you stick a Voodoo2 in there, you should notice a big >performance increase. >A friend of mine who owns a Pentium MMX 166MHz with 32MB of RAM gets >around 2fps in Software rendering, but reaches around 25fps with most >details (but not all) turned on, once he switched to 3Dfx with his >Voodoo2. >Anybody know if GPL is optimised for 3D-Now, as that would make quite >a big difference on the AMD's. >The Excelsior >"To Boldy Go Where No Man Has Gone Before... - Doh! I'm On The Wrong Ship!"

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:21:01 +0100, "JAY B" I have a p2 333 which is not o/c with 2 voodoo2 SLI and it runs solid with all graphics options on in GPL. I also have a p2 450 with a Voodoo3 3000 and I must say the difference in frame rate is very slight, but with the voodoo 3 I can play at 1280x1024 resolution and it looks absolutely great. The colors also tend to be more vivid with the voodoo3 although the TNT chip will always gives you a better image (if we had proper drivers that is) In my opinion if you're not thinking of overclocking, I would choose either between the p2 333 and the p2 450 depending on how much cash you have. The AMD's are very good and getting better all the time, but for us pc gamers, not even the intel processor is yet good enough let alone the others, and the pentium 3 is a processor release I've simply ignored. ** A mate of mine runs GPL on AMD k6 and it runs solid but when GPL puts the processor is under heavy use, the intel finishes ahead in frame rates, we 've concluded. Also if GPL is what you'll be playing all the time, keep in mind that GPL is very demanding on your pc, to be honest I have not come accross a sim so demanding.... You'll spend a lot of money (I even bought a 19'' mon), and the best you'll ever get out of gpl is 37fps, and it will never be constant on 36 or 37 if other cars are around. AND WE'RE STILL AWAITING FOR A PATCH..... OAM

Nope, GPL aint 3DNow! optimised...... It'd be nice if GPL 1.1 was though.. You listening Randy?!!! Mike West 3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:21:01 +0100, "JAY B" > >i am thinking of buying an AMD k6-2 450 to replace my rather pathetic cyrix > >233mmx which on opening the case looks like two hamsters with a calculator, > >in breif its SLOW in gpl! IS the amd 450 a good chip for gpl considering its > >price compared to intel p2 450 chips. > >I know everyones gonna go buy a celery 300a and o/c it to 450 and its fast > >but i dont want to o/c the sytem cuz if i cook it i will not be able to work > >cuz i use my pc for work and also wouldnt be able to afford to replace it.

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> >is the amd good for other aplications too such as graphics, etc. > >please help,! > >also what ram should i get amount and type > >jay > The AMD K6-2 would be OK, but it would be much better on a K6-3. > Also, if you stick a Voodoo2 in there, you should notice a big > performance increase. > A friend of mine who owns a Pentium MMX 166MHz with 32MB of RAM gets > around 2fps in Software rendering, but reaches around 25fps with most > details (but not all) turned on, once he switched to 3Dfx with his > Voodoo2. > Anybody know if GPL is optimised for 3D-Now, as that would make quite > a big difference on the AMD's. > The Excelsior > "To Boldy Go Where No Man Has Gone Before... - Doh! I'm On The Wrong

Ship!"