Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is there
away around it
rdracer
NASCAR 1999 multiplayer requires DOS and no digital wheels
A user could not find multiplayer in NASCAR Racing 1999's Windows version and was told to run the DOS executable. Greg Cisko and Larry complained that this meant digital and force feedback wheels such as the Microsoft FF could not be used online or on NROS, that the DOS requirement was not stated on the box, and that Papyrus had not fixed it.
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Run one of the DOS executables.
Eric
Yeah. Assuming he doesn't have one of those fancy FF wheels.
It might work. BTW, why isn't the fact that DOS is required for
multiplay clearly listed on the box??? Was papy/sierra afraid
they would not sell many copies if they made if clear that DOS
was required for multiplay in NR1999????
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>Eric
>> Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is
>there
>> away around it
I use a Microsoft Force Feedback, now please tell me how to race N99 online.
Thanks
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> Run one of the DOS executables. > Eric > > Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is > there > > away around it>I use a Microsoft Force Feedback, now please tell me how to race N99 online.
>Thanks
You need to run the NR1999 DOS executable for multiplay (wasn't
it clearly listed on the box?). Of course this means that you cannot
use your MS FF wheel...
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>> Run one of the DOS executables.
>> Eric
>> > Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is
>> there
>> > away around it
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> Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is there
> away around it
> rdracer
I've never had a problem with the MS wheel in the DOS versions of
NR1999, but I understand others have not had as good of luck.
Eric
>I've never had a problem with the MS wheel in the DOS versions of
>NR1999, but I understand others have not had as good of luck.
Are you actually implying that you can *properly* calibrate the
MS FF wheel in the DOS version of NR1999? Yes they will
calibrate but the numbers will not be stable at all. Then when
you try to race, the car will have some control (about 90%
good) but will spike the steering to the left or right about once
or twice per lap. This is not acceptable IMHO. I tried this with
a MS FF wheel connected to the MIDI gameport on my old
P5-200MMX about 6 months ago, and recently with my Logitech
FF USB wheel on my P2-450. Same result. I am sure that
papy knows about this problem. I suspect it will never get fixed.
BTW, are you saying this is not a problem/issue which papy
will be addressing?
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>Eric
>> You need to run the NR1999 DOS executable for multiplay (wasn't
>> it clearly listed on the box?). Of course this means that you cannot
>> use your MS FF wheel...
That's why I asked the question Greg. I CAN'T use the wheel with the DOS
executable.
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> >I use a Microsoft Force Feedback, now please tell me how to race N99 > online. > >Thanks > You need to run the NR1999 DOS executable for multiplay (wasn't > it clearly listed on the box?). Of course this means that you cannot > use your MS FF wheel... > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > >> Run one of the DOS executables. > >> Eric > >> > Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is > >> there > >> > away around itYou have to use the DOS version, not the Windows .EXE :(
This means bye-bye to your modern, digital controller if you are using
one :(
Yes. I think this stinks, too.
-Larry
> Its not like nascar 2 there is no multiplayer what hanpd to it is there
> away around it
> rdracer
Actually, the issue isn't FF. It's digital.
Most new wheels are using optical and digital, which is great. Unless
you run N2, N1999 DOS, or NROS.
Cmon Papy. Give us a joystick driver that can handle the PRESENT,
please!
-Larry
> Yeah. Assuming he doesn't have one of those fancy FF wheels.
You can't. Not with that wheel.
The on-line version of Nascar is called NROS. It's hosted on TEN. It
requires the DOS executable. The DOS executable STILL doesn't support
digital controllers.
You have to use an old-fashioned analog controller to race NROS on-line.
It doesn't look good as far as TEN supporting the Windows version of
NR1999 online.
-Larry
> I use a Microsoft Force Feedback, now please tell me how to race N99 online.
> Thanks
One out of a thousand maybe have gotten it to work.
What ever you do, don't EVER try to recalibrate your wheel. The odds
are you will never get it back.
-Larry
Greg,
Papy has known about this for a long time. So far, there has been no
action on their part to correct it.
Considering most new wheels (that people can actually afford) coming out
are digital and optical (which is good) we are really screwed here.
I'm personally tired of buying and wearing out Thrustmaster TM Pro's.
-Larry
> BTW, are you saying this is not a problem/issue which papy
> will be addressing?
Adam,
This is a long-standing problem that only Papy can fix, and they haven't
shown much interest in it as far as I can tell.
-Larry
> That's why I asked the question Greg. I CAN'T use the wheel with the DOS
> executable.
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>Greg, >Papy has known about this for a long time. So far, there has been no >action on their part to correct it. >Considering most new wheels (that people can actually afford) coming out >are digital and optical (which is good) we are really screwed here. >I'm personally tired of buying and wearing out Thrustmaster TM Pro's.>You need to run the NR1999 DOS executable for multiplay (wasn't
>it clearly listed on the box?). Of course this means that you cannot
>use your MS FF wheel...
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Actually, no it WASN'T clearly listed on the box. It's not listed on the box
at ALL.
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Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea...
remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
I clearly remember reading the multiplayer info on the box, maybe you missed
it. :-)
Paul
The fact that it required the DOS executable was *NOT listed and that
is my point.
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Don,
I'm not sure about that, but they might.
I'm just really tired of Analog POTS. Especially in GPL, with the
Steering Jitters. Yep, I've done the Lube & Oil routine several times
:)
I'm also tired of the single-point attachment system for the wheel
itself. I can't _stand_ a wheel that rocks back and forth in my hands.
Many folks, including myself, have asked TM to move to a three-point
***system, but they have ignored us. Even their new wheels,
including the force-feedback model, still use this stupid single-screw
attachment system.
There are a _lot_ of good wheels out there now. I want to be able to
use one of them (like the MSFFW I have).
In short, I'm tired of fixing it :)
Thanks!
-Larry
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> Larry, don't they support their wheels for life, tho'? I just > bought a TM Pro with worn out bungee and their shipping it to me no > questions asked. Same with the pots (just in case). Granted it's a > pain to wait on them shipping out parts, but still... at least it > works in EVERYTHING out there! > GunnerAs far as I can tell, this is correct. I can't find it on the box
either.
-Larry
> Actually, no it WASN'T clearly listed on the box. It's not listed on the box
> at ALL.
I don't see it either!
-Larry
> The fact that it required the DOS executable was *NOT listed and that
> is my point.


































