Logitech G25

Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL or NR2003? I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? Cheers Steve

On Jan 2, 10:45 am, "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL or > NR2003? > > I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and > pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? > > Cheers > > Steve

I just use the wheel paddles for gear changes -- mostly because I was used to doing it that way from previous wheels. The gearshift has one important drawback (at least in my house): it makes a loud click as you change gears. My wife is sleeping in the other bedroom when I'n doing most of my racing, and the noise bothers her. Other than the noise, I've had no issues with the shifter (although, I only tried it briefly before going back to using the paddles.) The wheel set works fine with both games you name. Other drivers in my NR2003 league mentioned how my driving is much smoother with the G25, compared to what it was like with my old LWFF wheel. I really like mine. When it was new, I could smell the leather around the steering wheel. Ahhh! -- Darryl

The gearshift has one important drawback (at least in my house): it > makes a loud click as you change gears. My wife is sleeping in the > other bedroom when I'm doing most of my racing, and the noise bothers > her. Other than the noise, I've had no issues with the shifter > (although, I only tried it briefly before going back to using the > paddles.) Haha I see what you mean about the gear shift noise. LOL damn near louder than the car! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_kWmbmX6I

Steve Garey wrote: > Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL or > NR2003? > > I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and > pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking noises. Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the controls from to mix & match. Cheers Tony

Thanks Chaps Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot or is it solid state? Cheers Steve "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]...

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> Steve Garey wrote: >> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL >> or NR2003? >> >> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and >> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? > > I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels unlike > a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking noises. > > Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. > > I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are > usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the > controls from to mix & match. > > Cheers > Tony

Haven't heard of any switch issues, or had any problems myself. There is no potentiometer in the G25, at least not in the classical sense. Positioning is handled onboard one of the motors with what appears to be an optical or magnetic sensor. Pat Dotson UltraForce Simulations LLC http://www.ultraforcesim.com On Jan 3, 12:49 pm, "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Thanks Chaps > > Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot > or is it solid state? > > Cheers > > Steve > > "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... > > > > > Steve Garey wrote: > >> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL > >> or NR2003? > > >> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and > >> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? > > > I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels unlike > > a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking noises. > > > Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. > > > I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are > > usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the > > controls from to mix & match. > > > Cheers > > Tony- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -

Wheel - Optical. Pedals - Pots (industry standard and p/n's are available). Shifter - Pots. Not sure if industry standard or not. -Larry "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]...

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> Thanks Chaps > > Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a > pot or is it solid state? > > Cheers > > Steve > > "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >> Steve Garey wrote: >>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL >>> or NR2003? >>> >>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and >>> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >> >> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking >> noises. >> >> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >> >> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are >> usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the >> controls from to mix & match. >> >> Cheers >> Tony > >

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>Thanks Chaps > >Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot >or is it solid state? > >Cheers > >Steve

On the G25? Mine seems to have problems shifting into 5th after normal use. It gets stuck going from 4th as if there's a lip on the gate, catching the shifter. Not good when you're racing. On the whole, the gated shifter is the let down on the G25. The wheel and pedals are absolutely superb. If you put the shifter into sequential mode, acceptable. In gated mode, I'm not a fan. I pick 4 speeds when I play GTL and it's GTR counterpart to avoid shifting into 5th. Cheers, Rod.

Hi, Steve! Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches. Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those mystic "pots"... ;) l8er ronny

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> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]... >> Thanks Chaps >> >> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use >> a pot or is it solid state? >> >> Cheers >> >> Steve >> >> "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >>> Steve Garey wrote: >>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with >>>> GPL or NR2003? >>>> >>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel >>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >>> >>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of >>> clicking noises. >>> >>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >>> >>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both >>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can >>> select the controls from to mix & match. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Tony >> >> >

The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly from Logitech support. -Larry "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fllcs1$brg$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, Steve! > > Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches. > Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those > mystic "pots"... ;) > > l8er > ronny > >> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]... >>> Thanks Chaps >>> >>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a >>> pot or is it solid state? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >>>> Steve Garey wrote: >>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with >>>>> GPL or NR2003? >>>>> >>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and >>>>> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >>>> >>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking >>>> noises. >>>> >>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >>>> >>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both >>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can >>>> select the controls from to mix & match. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Tony >>> >>> >>

To everyone Thanks very much for the feedback Cheers Steve "Rod" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:49:44 GMT, "Steve Garey" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Thanks Chaps >> >>Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a >>pot >>or is it solid state? >> >>Cheers >> >>Steve > > On the G25? Mine seems to have problems shifting into 5th > after normal use. It gets stuck going from 4th as if there's > a lip on the gate, catching the shifter. Not good when you're > racing. > > On the whole, the gated shifter is the let down on the G25. > The wheel and pedals are absolutely superb. If you put the > shifter into sequential mode, acceptable. In gated mode, I'm > not a fan. I pick 4 speeds when I play GTL and it's GTR > counterpart to avoid shifting into 5th. > > Cheers, > Rod.

Larry, I took mine apart and it has switches in it. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]...

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> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly from > Logitech support. > > -Larry > > "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fllcs1$brg$[email hidden]... >> Hi, Steve! >> >> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches. >> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those >> mystic "pots"... ;) >> >> l8er >> ronny >> >>> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]... >>>> Thanks Chaps >>>> >>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use >>>> a pot or is it solid state? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >>>>> Steve Garey wrote: >>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with >>>>>> GPL or NR2003? >>>>>> >>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel >>>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >>>>> >>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking >>>>> noises. >>>>> >>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >>>>> >>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both >>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can >>>>> select the controls from to mix & match. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Tony >>>> >>>> >>> >

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> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> > *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 > > The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly > from Logitech support. > > -Larry

Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots. Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear or not in that gear. Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches. I hope my very simple explanation gets across what I am trying to say. 8-) *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

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> In article <Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Larry) > wrote: > >> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> >> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 >> >> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly >> from Logitech support. >> >> -Larry > > Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots.

Well, in this case Larry is right. The shifter has two potentiometers and one switch (to determine whether it's pushed down or not). The mechanism is not unlike a joyistick that has a metal gate to only allow certainly positions, which are then translated into "gearshift buttons" by the firmware. This thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8) has some pictures and a little bit of discussion about the construction.

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> Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a > controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions > (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a > steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost > infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. > > For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the > gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear > or not in that gear. > > Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches.

You describe one possible approach, likely the most obvious one. I am not sure why the "joystick" approach was chosen over the "microswitch" approach, but I'm sure there must be reasons.

Hmmm.... Interesting. I don't know why Logitec would have told me otherwise... -Larry "Quentin Queerbottom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pILfj.23245$[email hidden]...

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> Larry, I took mine apart and it has switches in it. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]... >> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly from >> Logitech support. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:fllcs1$brg$[email hidden]... >>> Hi, Steve! >>> >>> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches. >>> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those >>> mystic "pots"... ;) >>> >>> l8er >>> ronny >>> >>>> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]... >>>>> Thanks Chaps >>>>> >>>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use >>>>> a pot or is it solid state? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >>>>>> Steve Garey wrote: >>>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with >>>>>>> GPL or NR2003? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel >>>>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >>>>>> >>>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >>>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of >>>>>> clicking noises. >>>>>> >>>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both >>>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can >>>>>> select the controls from to mix & match. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >

Whether it NEEDS to or not is besides the point. I'm only saying what Logitech told me. Which is apparantly wrong. -Larry "P Gagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Larry) > wrote: > >> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> >> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 >> >> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly >> from Logitech support. >> >> -Larry > > Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots. > > Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a > controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions > (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a > steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost > infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. > > For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the > gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear > or not in that gear. > > Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches. > > I hope my very simple explanation gets across what I am trying to say. > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

Ok, so I WAS right. Any posts from me indicating I may have been wrong are purely a figment of your imagination :) -Larry "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1I8gj.82730$[email hidden]...

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> "P Gagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> In article <Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Larry) >> wrote: >> >>> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> >>> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 >>> >>> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly >>> from Logitech support. >>> >>> -Larry >> >> Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots. > > Well, in this case Larry is right. The shifter has two potentiometers and > one switch (to determine whether it's pushed down or not). The mechanism > is not unlike a joyistick that has a metal gate to only allow certainly > positions, which are then translated into "gearshift buttons" by the > firmware. > > This thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8) has some pictures > and a little bit of discussion about the construction. > >> Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a >> controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions >> (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a >> steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost >> infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. >> >> For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the >> gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear >> or not in that gear. >> >> Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches. > > You describe one possible approach, likely the most obvious one. I am not > sure why the "joystick" approach was chosen over the "microswitch" > approach, but I'm sure there must be reasons. > >

Video removed by user :( -Larry "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1I8gj.82730$[email hidden]...

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> "P Gagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> In article <Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Larry) >> wrote: >> >>> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> >>> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 >>> >>> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly >>> from Logitech support. >>> >>> -Larry >> >> Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots. > > Well, in this case Larry is right. The shifter has two potentiometers and > one switch (to determine whether it's pushed down or not). The mechanism > is not unlike a joyistick that has a metal gate to only allow certainly > positions, which are then translated into "gearshift buttons" by the > firmware. > > This thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8) has some pictures > and a little bit of discussion about the construction. > >> Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a >> controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions >> (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a >> steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost >> infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. >> >> For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the >> gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear >> or not in that gear. >> >> Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches. > > You describe one possible approach, likely the most obvious one. I am not > sure why the "joystick" approach was chosen over the "microswitch" > approach, but I'm sure there must be reasons. > >

Larry wrote: > Ok, so I WAS right. Any posts from me indicating I may have been wrong > are purely a figment of your imagination :) > At least partially... ;) I really couldn't imaging they would use pots (internal, no calibration needed) to implement this shifter, esp. as one can hear clicks while shifting. But I read in a forum about shifter mods about pots, too. Unbelievable... </begin modded quote> Any posts from me indicating I may have been completely right are purely a figment of your imagination :) </end modded quote> ronny

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> -Larry > > "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1I8gj.82730$[email hidden]... >> "P Gagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> In article <Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Larry) >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *From:* "Larry" <[email hidden]> >>>> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500 >>>> >>>> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly >>>> from Logitech support. >>>> >>>> -Larry >>> >>> Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots. >> >> Well, in this case Larry is right. The shifter has two potentiometers >> and one switch (to determine whether it's pushed down or not). The >> mechanism is not unlike a joyistick that has a metal gate to only >> allow certainly positions, which are then translated into "gearshift >> buttons" by the firmware. >> >> This thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8) has some >> pictures and a little bit of discussion about the construction. >> >>> Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position >>> of a >>> controller or device when there is more than just two potential >>> positions >>> (eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a >>> steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost >>> infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM. >>> >>> For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the >>> gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear >>> or not in that gear. >>> >>> Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches. >> >> You describe one possible approach, likely the most obvious one. I am >> not sure why the "joystick" approach was chosen over the "microswitch" >> approach, but I'm sure there must be reasons. >> >> >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tytgj.16332$[email hidden]... > Video removed by user :( > > -Larry Doh! It'd help if I posted the correct link... http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=277322 That's the one I meant to post yesterday ;)

Wow. They could not have made this any more complicated if they tried! Like everyone else, I don't understand why they didn't just use switches. -Larry "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XhDgj.61336$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tytgj.16332$[email hidden]... >> Video removed by user :( >> >> -Larry > > Doh! It'd help if I posted the correct link... > > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=277322 > > That's the one I meant to post yesterday ;) > >

> Doh! It'd help if I posted the correct link... > > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=277322 > > That's the one I meant to post yesterday ;) Aha, well I stand corrected, they have indeed used a pot, although WHY they have used a pot is beyond me when microswitches would have been a much better solution IMHO? Thanx for the info tho, and the photos in that thread are very good, its handy to see what a G25 looks like from the inside.... 8-) *Peter*

Uncle Larry would never steer you wrong :) -Larry "P Gagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>> Doh! It'd help if I posted the correct link... >> >> http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=277322 >> >> That's the one I meant to post yesterday ;) > > Aha, well I stand corrected, they have indeed used a pot, although WHY > they have used a pot is beyond me when microswitches would have been a > much better solution IMHO? > > Thanx for the info tho, and the photos in that thread are very good, its > handy to see what a G25 looks like from the inside.... > > 8-) > > *Peter*

Okay, looks like there's only one switch (the one I saw) and that you're correct. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:putgj.16329$[email hidden]...

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> Hmmm.... Interesting. I don't know why Logitec would have told me > otherwise... > > -Larry > > "Quentin Queerbottom" <[email hidden]> wrote in > message news:pILfj.23245$[email hidden]... >> Larry, I took mine apart and it has switches in it. >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Igrfj.4525$[email hidden]... >>> The shifter has no switches. They are pots. This came directly from >>> Logitech support. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:fllcs1$brg$[email hidden]... >>>> Hi, Steve! >>>> >>>> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches. >>>> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those >>>> mystic "pots"... ;) >>>> >>>> l8er >>>> ronny >>>> >>>>> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:Ye9fj.33212$[email hidden]... >>>>>> Thanks Chaps >>>>>> >>>>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel >>>>>> use a pot or is it solid state? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> "Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>> news:r8Rej.129549$[email hidden]... >>>>>>> Steve Garey wrote: >>>>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work >>>>>>>> with GPL or NR2003? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel >>>>>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels >>>>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of >>>>>>> clicking noises. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both >>>>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can >>>>>>> select the controls from to mix & match. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >