Papyrus CART Racing

What a load of crap. I loaded the game and ran Windy.exe. Then I try running at Loudon. The freaking game pauses the entire time I am on the back straight!!! Thats right, I exit turn 2 to enter the back straight, then the whole game pauses for seconds. Then when it comes back I am entering turn 3. WTF is that all about??? OK so I try the DOS version of CART (which is on the CD). Know what it is impossible to re-assign the Controller inputs I want. Whenever I select Accelerator or Brake or anything else I get "MOUSE X". WHAT!!! I am running the game out of Windows but it should work. Then I try to run it from pure DOS. Oh ***I didn't reinstall the DOS drivers for my soundcard, so the joystick is not available. All of a sudden I realize that this is *WAY* more trouble than it is worth. The real solution is for the damn game to work in winbloze like it is supposed to. All I wanted to do was see if I could get my Logitech FF wheel to work in CART (which I know does good modem play) so I could get rid of NR1999 and do some modem racing with my buddy. I wanted to do SCGT modem racing with him, but people here said it doesn't work well. What a load of crap, nothing works! -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Uninstall the CART Windows version and stick with the DOS one. But since I told you to stick to DOS, and that you have a Logitech FF wheel, it won't work. DOS applications, whatever they are run in a Dos box or in Dos mode, will have problems with Force Feedback controllers. Example : NROS, who doesn't run Direct Input at all, so no FF or Digital wheel works with it. So install the WIndows version, and read below. You wouldn't be able Im about sure. Still, it would help if you told us your PC specifications. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

There is an easy way to use cart racing in dos. You just need to put a shortcut on your desktop or inyour start menu that reboots in ms dos mode without loading your mouse driver. Then it will work better. and if you get rid of some other terminate and stay programs that way, it might even run faster. all you need dos to load is your soundcard driver.

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>What a load of crap. I loaded the game and ran Windy.exe. Then >I try running at Loudon. The freaking game pauses the entire time >I am on the back straight!!! Thats right, I exit turn 2 to enter the back >straight, then the whole game pauses for seconds. Then when it comes >back I am entering turn 3. WTF is that all about??? >OK so I try the DOS version of CART (which is on the CD). Know what >it is impossible to re-assign the Controller inputs I want. Whenever I >select Accelerator or Brake or anything else I get "MOUSE X". WHAT!!! >I am running the game out of Windows but it should work. Then I try >to run it from pure DOS. Oh ***I didn't reinstall the DOS drivers >for my soundcard, so the joystick is not available. All of a sudden >I realize that this is *WAY* more trouble than it is worth. The real >solution is for the damn game to work in winbloze like it is supposed >to. >All I wanted to do was see if I could get my Logitech FF wheel to >work in CART (which I know does good modem play) so I could >get rid of NR1999 and do some modem racing with my buddy. >I wanted to do SCGT modem racing with him, but people here >said it doesn't work well. What a load of crap, nothing works! >-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

>Uninstall the CART Windows version and stick with the DOS one. Rgr that. The FF should work in a DOS bos (or so the docs say). The N2/NR1999 joystick stuff is "optimized for the NROS online play and won't work properly with digital wheels, true enough. I don't think ICR2 has any of that foolishness so it should work. We will see. And of course you could be right. But I am stubborn :-) P2-450 with 128MB of ram and the Windy.exe game still stutters. Total BS if you ask me. I'm gonna try DOS. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

>>But since I told you to stick to DOS, and that you have a Logitech FF >wheel, >>it won't work. DOS applications, whatever they are run in a Dos box or in >>Dos mode, will have problems with Force Feedback controllers. Example : >The FF should work in a DOS bos (or so the docs say). I just got the Logitech FF wheel to work with the DOS version of ICR2. The joystick calib is rock solid. I had to start in pure DOS (reboot) and set up the wheel, accel, brake shifting and reverse with my T2 wheel. Then I went back into W98 and put the Logitech FF wheel on Joystick ID#1 in the Control Panel. Then I went to the Start Button/RUN and typed "C:\SIERRA\CART\DOS\CART\Cart.exe -h". It loaded and I was able to calibrate and use the Logitech FF. No problem. Except the program is old and moldy :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

If memory serves......... For controls - rem the mouse command from autoexec.bat. Calibrate Re enable mouse in autoexec.bat later

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> What a load of crap. I loaded the game and ran Windy.exe. Then > I try running at Loudon. The freaking game pauses the entire time > I am on the back straight!!! Thats right, I exit turn 2 to enter the back > straight, then the whole game pauses for seconds. Then when it comes > back I am entering turn 3. WTF is that all about??? > OK so I try the DOS version of CART (which is on the CD). Know what > it is impossible to re-assign the Controller inputs I want. Whenever I > select Accelerator or Brake or anything else I get "MOUSE X". WHAT!!! > I am running the game out of Windows but it should work. Then I try > to run it from pure DOS. Oh ***I didn't reinstall the DOS drivers > for my soundcard, so the joystick is not available. All of a sudden > I realize that this is *WAY* more trouble than it is worth. The real > solution is for the damn game to work in winbloze like it is supposed > to. > All I wanted to do was see if I could get my Logitech FF wheel to > work in CART (which I know does good modem play) so I could > get rid of NR1999 and do some modem racing with my buddy. > I wanted to do SCGT modem racing with him, but people here > said it doesn't work well. What a load of crap, nothing works! > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Cool congrats. At least it's the DOS version, which is superior to the Windows version (it's the perfect interface IMHO Icr2-Dos) ;-) I wasn't aware that the Logitech could be emulated to run Dos programs. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

>At least it's the DOS version, which is superior to the Windows version >(it's the perfect interface IMHO Icr2-Dos) ;-) >I wasn't aware that the Logitech could be emulated to run Dos programs. Neither was the technical weenie (a nice guy BTW) for Computer *** World who did the review on the Logitech FF wheel :-) It does say in the docs that it works in a Win98 DOS box and I found this to be very true. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

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> If memory serves......... > For controls - > rem the mouse command from autoexec.bat. > Calibrate > Re enable mouse in autoexec.bat later

Yep. I remember this from when it came out. If your mouse driver was loaded when you first installed/ran it, the mouse would be your default controller, and couldn't be changed. After you ran it and calibrated another controller, the mouse didn't cause any more problems. Tim

That's odd..... I run the Windows version on a 450Celery/V3 setup and get 90FPS on the back straight at Michigan with a full field. The game version's not the cause of the stutter on your PC; must be sumthin' else. :-) Cheers, Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email

Could be my 16MB TNT card. Anyway I have the DOS version running just fine in a W98 DOS box so I am set. Thanks. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com