GPL : how to tell if you bottomed out

Hi How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? Are sparks the only way ? what if you are using in car view, you would never see sparks , right ? btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off what other damages are there if we use realistic damage option ? so far as I could tell, there is no indication like suspension damage, steering damage etc. -- regards =========================================== Singapore

Crank the sound up, or try and replace your bottoming sound with something louder Right...but you'll feel the car going straight on....! (Not unusual) Engine quietly dying (smoking, steaming) bent steeting, any others anyone?? Doug

As far as damage you could also have the alignment seriously thrown off or suffer a blown cylinder (neat effect you can hear the difference also) cuasing slower performance.

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> Hi > How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? > Are sparks the only way ? > what if you are using in car view, you would > never see sparks , right ? > btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off > what other damages are there if we use > realistic damage option ? > so far as I could tell, there is no indication like > suspension damage, steering damage etc. > -- > regards > =========================================== > Singapore

Flames?

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>As far as damage you could also have the alignment seriously thrown off or >suffer a blown cylinder (neat effect you can hear the difference also) >cuasing slower performance. >> Hi >> How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? >> Are sparks the only way ? >> what if you are using in car view, you would >> never see sparks , right ? >> btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off >> what other damages are there if we use >> realistic damage option ? >> so far as I could tell, there is no indication like >> suspension damage, steering damage etc. >> -- >> regards >> =========================================== >> Singapore

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Hi! Goto the following address: http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/crashmania99/e_spa.html and d/l the crash dated 12.03.1999 with the following description: "This was supposed to be a real crash, but what can you do if you just miss it? Right- a megaburnout!" In this replay you can see a crashattempt of me which resulted in a damaged suspension causing one of the rear tires to lose grip. This is what I call a good damage model... Bye! -- Crash

A common problem with the Brabham at the higher damage levels is screwing up the camshaft if you hit something and rev it really high. -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 >As far as damage you could also have the alignment seriously thrown off or >suffer a blown cylinder (neat effect you can hear the difference also) >cuasing slower performance. >> Hi >> How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? >> Are sparks the only way ? >> what if you are using in car view, you would >> never see sparks , right ? >> btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off >> what other damages are there if we use >> realistic damage option ? >> so far as I could tell, there is no indication like >> suspension damage, steering damage etc. >> -- >> regards >> =========================================== >> Singapore

Those occur if you puncture your fuel tank and light it up...it burns up all of your fuel. -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 >Flames? >>As far as damage you could also have the alignment seriously thrown off or >>suffer a blown cylinder (neat effect you can hear the difference also) >>cuasing slower performance. >>> Hi >>> How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? >>> Are sparks the only way ? >>> what if you are using in car view, you would >>> never see sparks , right ? >>> btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off >>> what other damages are there if we use >>> realistic damage option ? >>> so far as I could tell, there is no indication like >>> suspension damage, steering damage etc. >>> -- >>> regards >>> =========================================== >>> Singapore >To email me remove the "u"s

From the movie True Lies, where Arny and Tom are listening in to the fake spy "This just gets better and better". LOL When you hear this loud scraping sound, followed by *** spinning and collision with something very hard, THAT"S BOTTOMING OUT! Also, if you zoom in (ALT - W) from the replay screen when the car is on it's roof and then hit ALT - M (micrometer) you can physically measure the amount of wear. For very small amounts of wear you will need to use CTRL - M (magnifying glass) to measure accurately.

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> Hi > How do you tell if you have bottomed out ? > Are sparks the only way ? > what if you are using in car view, you would > never see sparks , right ? > btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off > what other damages are there if we use > realistic damage option ? > so far as I could tell, there is no indication like > suspension damage, steering damage etc. > -- > regards > =========================================== > Singapore

On Fri, 28 May 1999 11:31:15 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" >>btw, besides the "occasional" wheel coming off >>what other damages are there if we use >>realistic damage option ? >Engine quietly dying (smoking, steaming) bent steeting, any others anyone?? You'll find the handling going "funny", simulating suspension arms that are bent or out of true, problems with the diff causing excessive one-sided wheelspin under acceleration etc - those were just from me whacking the wall in Malmedy last night :-) Quite often the car will handle strangely after a shunt or even only a tap, depending upon what damage was done to the car. Cheers! John

I find it pretty easy to tell if a tire is down after an off, .... because of the new shunt soon after ;) -- Matthew V. Jessick Motorsims Vehicle Dynamics Engineer (972)910-8866, Fax: (972)910-8216