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LWFF and CH pedals?

10 posts by 7 people · 25 May 1999 - 27 May 1999

keith 25 May 1999#470069
I took the plunge and bought the CH Pedals to use in place of the pedals on the Logitech Wingman FF. Has anyone tried this combination, with LWFF on USB and CH on gameport? If so, what gameport driver do you use in Windows 98 for the CH Pedals? Just wondering if it makes more sense to rewire the CH Pedals to the Logitech and just have a single USB connection, or try to set up two game controllers and select the appropriate axis in GPL. I am leaning towards having both a USB and gameport connection, and could then use the Logitech gas pedal as a clutch :) Thanks for any advice, Keith.
Rober 25 May 1999#470070
Keith. If you get around doing that, could you let me know how you did it at use my old Thrustmaster T2 pedals . I just can't get used to the Logi pedals. My times are down about 1 to 1.5seconds at Monza, for instance, as I keep locking the wheels. I've changed the springs but I still cannot brake as deep into the corners has with the old T2 pedals, which had much better travel. Robert =:-D
JimmyJam 26 May 1999#470286
>I took the plunge and bought the CH Pedals to use in place of the >pedals on the Logitech Wingman FF. Has anyone tried this combination, >with LWFF on USB and CH on gameport? Yep, I'm doing it and it works great! Gameport Driver? I just got them hooked up with my joystick and got the box checked that says rudder pedals attached. I might be wrong about this but I dont think you can rewire them with the Formula Force only the regular Wingman Formula with out FF. And besides I still like to using my joystick/rudder pedal combination when I'm playing with my flightsims. Thats what I'm doing. Hmm.....I Never thought about that! Might have to try it! I don't know though I just layed them out that way and it just don't feel right besides I race with one foot on the gas and the other on the brake and moving my feet all around would probally***me up! And besides that I harldy ever use the cluch anyway except when taking off from the starting line in a race. i think it'easier just using a button on the wheel. One thing to be sure of in the advanced section of the Game Controllers menu in Win 98 make sure you got your joystick/rudder pedals set up on Controller ID #1 and your LWFF set up on controller ID #2. It wont work the other way around or at least for me it wont. And one other thing I've noticed is that if you launch the Logitech Wingman Profiller (to set up your buttons for GPL) it will switch your controller ID's around. You got to set up your buttons inside GPL otherwise it won't work.
Using a third pedal for clutch isn't very sensible. You'll not be able to perform a good start at some of the down/uphill starting grids. All because of the fact that the braking and gas pedal are too far apart. In a real racing car you have to keep your foot lightly on the brakes and rev the engine by heel and toeing. With my pedal set that's not possible. So for GPL I prefer a button on the wheel. Although maybe it's worth a try for flat starting grids. It will probably improve the starts big time. t>...
Quoted text (49 lines)>>I took the plunge and bought the CH Pedals to use in place of the >>pedals on the Logitech Wingman FF. Has anyone tried this combination, >>with LWFF on USB and CH on gameport? >Yep, I'm doing it and it works great! >> If so, what gameport driver do >>you use in Windows 98 for the CH Pedals? >Gameport Driver? I just got them hooked up with my joystick and got >the box checked that says rudder pedals attached. >>Just wondering if it makes >>more sense to rewire the CH Pedals to the Logitech and just have a >>single USB connection, >I might be wrong about this but I dont think you can rewire them with >the Formula Force only the regular Wingman Formula with out FF. >And besides I still like to using my joystick/rudder pedal >combination when I'm playing with my flightsims. >> or try to set up two game controllers and >>select the appropriate axis in GPL. >Thats what I'm doing. >> I am leaning towards having both a >>USB and gameport connection, and could then use the Logitech gas pedal >>as a clutch :) >Hmm.....I Never thought about that! Might have to try it! I don't >know though I just layed them out that way and it just don't feel >right besides I race with one foot on the gas and the other on the >brake and moving my feet all around would probally***me up! And >besides that I harldy ever use the cluch anyway except when taking off >from the starting line in a race. i think it'easier just using a >button on the wheel. >>Thanks for any advice, >>Keith. >One thing to be sure of in the advanced section of the Game >Controllers menu in Win 98 make sure you got your joystick/rudder >pedals set up on Controller ID #1 and your LWFF set up on controller >ID #2. It wont work the other way around or at least for me it wont. >And one other thing I've noticed is that if you launch the Logitech >Wingman Profiller (to set up your buttons for GPL) it will switch your >controller ID's around. You got to set up your buttons inside GPL >otherwise it won't work.
Chris 26 May 1999#470288
Yup, definetly wrong. You can rewire them with the Wingman Forumla Force. Need to to be able to use the pedals in some games, but its not the best solution if you are using them as rudder pedals too. :) Mms..what? Sure it does. GPL doesn't seem to really care which controller the various devices are on. At least not that I've ever noticed. Perhaps there is some issue with the pedals or with the gameport on the soundcard.
BobM 26 May 1999#470289
In GPL this is incorrect. As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will not move unless you step on the gas. You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content. BobM
You must have misunderstood me, when you're starting at Spa for example the car will definitely start rolling if you don't use the brakes.
Quoted text (23 lines)>In GPL this is incorrect. >As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will >not move unless you step on the gas. >You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content. >BobM >> Using a third pedal for clutch isn't very sensible. You'll not be able >to >> perform a good start at some of the down/uphill starting grids. All >because >> of the fact that the braking and gas pedal are too far apart. In a >real >> racing car you have to keep your foot lightly on the brakes and rev >the >> engine by heel and toeing. With my pedal set that's not possible. So >for GPL >> I prefer a button on the wheel. Although maybe it's worth a try for >flat >> starting grids. It will probably improve the starts big time.
BobM 26 May 1999#470291
> You must have misunderstood me, when you're starting at Spa for example the > car will definitely start rolling if you don't use the brakes. > >In GPL this is incorrect. No I didn't. Agreed, when you go to Spa, you must have your brakes on or you will start rolling. Let the brakes go and you won't roll. If you hit the green button without having the brakes applied you will roll, but once you put the brakes on and then off, the car will not roll. Try It.
You're so sure you're probably right, I really thought you'd kept on rolling. Well then there's no problem at all.
Quoted text (18 lines)>> You must have misunderstood me, when you're starting at Spa for >example the >> car will definitely start rolling if you don't use the brakes. >> >In GPL this is incorrect. >No I didn't. Agreed, when you go to Spa, you must have your brakes on >or you will start rolling. Let the brakes go and you won't roll. >If you hit the green button without having the brakes applied you will >roll, but once you put the brakes on and then off, the car will not >roll. >> >As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will >> >not move unless you step on the gas. >> >You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content. >> >BobM > Try It.
On Wed, 26 May 1999 18:20:30 +0200, "Harjan Brand" >You must have misunderstood me, when you're starting at Spa for example the >car will definitely start rolling if you don't use the brakes. When at Spa, I only have to tap the brake once and it will stay on the brake, even if I let the brake go. This behavior stops when I step on the gas, or when I press Ctrl-T (reset dial). Perhaps an analog clutch behaves differently from a digital clutch with regards to this auto-brake behavior.
Quoted text (21 lines)>>In GPL this is incorrect. >>As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will >>not move unless you step on the gas. >>You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content. >>BobM >>> Using a third pedal for clutch isn't very sensible. You'll not be able >>to >>> perform a good start at some of the down/uphill starting grids. All >>because >>> of the fact that the braking and gas pedal are too far apart. In a >>real >>> racing car you have to keep your foot lightly on the brakes and rev >>the >>> engine by heel and toeing. With my pedal set that's not possible. So >>for GPL >>> I prefer a button on the wheel. Although maybe it's worth a try for >>flat >>> starting grids. It will probably improve the starts big time.
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