GPL Immersion Complete!

Have a funny little anecdote I thought I'd share with you guys. But before I tell the story, bear in mind that I've recently added a SB Live and a Voodoo3 3000 to my system. So I'm now able to run 1024 x 768, all features, quality, effects settings maxed, 50% detail bias, 16 sounds, 36 fps on a 19" monitor with a full AI field. Suffice it to say it's pretty immersive. And now for the anecdote that I offer in evidence... The other night I was racing around chasing the AI at Zandy. After about 8 laps I was sitting about 5th with the usual collection of green cars up the road and just out of sight: Hulme, Brabham, Hill, and Clark. On the ninth lap, as I come out of Tarzanbocht, I see an infamous green car parked in the grass on the right about halfway up the chute that leads to the dog-leg left. Since I had been reeling 4th place in, I was anxious to see exactly who it was that had retired. I was hoping that it was Clark...I thought perhaps I could ultimately catch the others, but knew I had little chance of overtaking dear Jimmy. So as I approached, I was determined to get a good look to see who the unfortunate soul was. Grab a good quick look, I told myself. In a flash I'm on top of the crippled car and as I pass I turn and take that good look. No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my desk! LOL! I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

That live card is good isn't it. If your'e not runnning four speakers then you still have more fun ahead of you! fwiw I tried the cambridge and was dissapointed in the lack of midrange and the fact that at max rpm in the honda the subwoofer was still working even though it was turned all the way down. So I added another set of yamaha speakers with a subwoofer, then I attached the subwoofer to the bottom of the seat in my***pit! Woo Hoo, force feedback for the butt! John Moore - driving by the seat of my pants...

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> Have a funny little anecdote I thought I'd share with you guys. But before I > tell the story, bear in mind that I've recently added a SB Live and a > Voodoo3 3000 to my system. So I'm now able to run 1024 x 768, all features, > quality, effects settings maxed, 50% detail bias, 16 sounds, 36 fps on a 19" > monitor with a full AI field. Suffice it to say it's pretty immersive. And > now for the anecdote that I offer in evidence... > The other night I was racing around chasing the AI at Zandy. After about 8 > laps I was sitting about 5th with the usual collection of green cars up the > road and just out of sight: Hulme, Brabham, Hill, and Clark. > On the ninth lap, as I come out of Tarzanbocht, I see an infamous green car > parked in the grass on the right about halfway up the chute that leads to > the dog-leg left. Since I had been reeling 4th place in, I was anxious to > see exactly who it was that had retired. I was hoping that it was Clark...I > thought perhaps I could ultimately catch the others, but knew I had little > chance of overtaking dear Jimmy. > So as I approached, I was determined to get a good look to see who the > unfortunate soul was. Grab a good quick look, I told myself. In a flash I'm > on top of the crippled car and as I pass I turn and take that good look. > No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away > from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! > Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my > desk! LOL! > I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no > longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's > complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! > Jack Rambo > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

At the risk of rehashing old territory, let me ask you SB Live pros... What environmental settings for GPL have you guys had success with using the SB Live? Do you use the gameport on the card? Have you found that it makes any difference? Why can't I play DVDs in my DVD drive anymore? Any ideas on how to enable an appropriate player for DVDs with the SB Live? John, so are you now using TWO sub-woofers? Does your house move on it's foundation? Have you discovered a way to load the individual applets in AudioHQ without loading the entire AudioHQ window? Thanks! Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Other then having sound come from all four speakers, I fail to hear the difference between 4 and 2. So, With the SB live environments, what environments are you using? I have listed a "3D Racing game" and use that. Is that what you use? and did you position the sound coming from the speakers with the software? Mike Barlow

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> The Live card with 4 speakers indeed sound awesome! > -- > Don Burnette > Palmetto Racing > Dburn on Ten > [link lost in import: /%204.htm] > > That live card is good isn't it. If your'e not runnning four speakers then > you > > still have more fun ahead of you! fwiw I tried the cambridge and was > > dissapointed in the lack of midrange and the fact that at max rpm in the > honda > > the subwoofer was still working even though it was turned all the way > down. So I > > added another set of yamaha speakers with a subwoofer, then I attached the > > subwoofer to the bottom of the seat in my***pit! Woo Hoo, force feedback > for > > the butt!

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Hey Jack,

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> At the risk of rehashing old territory, let me ask you SB Live pros... > What environmental settings for GPL have you guys had success with using the > SB Live? > As for the enviromental sounds I did a custom profile and named it "GPL" since > that is the only sim I drive anymore (ok, viper or Soda 5% of the time). I > used the default basic setup and added 1-2% of reverb and 10% flanger, I > really haven't played with the other effects too much. > Do you use the gameport on the card? Have you found that it makes any > difference? > The gameport is a little (2-3fps) faster than the old awe64 and seems pretty > good. > Why can't I play DVDs in my DVD drive anymore? Any ideas on how to enable an > appropriate player for DVDs with the SB Live? > I have no idea about the dvd thing, I haven't joined that club yet. btw, what > do you do with yours? > John, so are you now using TWO sub-woofers? Does your house move on it's > foundation? > LOL, No, the first set is just two speakers which actually sounded good by > themselves but when I got the live I had to go for it. If I get it too loud my > neighbor lets me know! Did I mention I am going deaf....what? > Have you discovered a way to load the individual applets in AudioHQ without > loading the entire AudioHQ window?

Uhh, haven't messed with that either. > Thanks! > Jack Rambo > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL See ya, John Moore - ps when is GPaL comin out?

LOL! Hey with those short little roll bars, you need to do some SERIOUS ducking! Jack www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

The Live card with 4 speakers indeed sound awesome! -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten [link lost in import: /%204.htm]

Well, about the only thing I can comment on is I do use the gameport on the Live card, and find it very smooth - much smoother than what I got with a CH Gamercard3, or my SB16 port. I haven't found any environment settings I like for it yet, but plan on working on customizing one to my liking at some point. -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > At the risk of rehashing old territory, let me ask you SB Live pros... > What environmental settings for GPL have you guys had success with using the > SB Live? > Do you use the gameport on the card? Have you found that it makes any > difference? > Why can't I play DVDs in my DVD drive anymore? Any ideas on how to enable an > appropriate player for DVDs with the SB Live? > John, so are you now using TWO sub-woofers? Does your house move on it's > foundation? > Have you discovered a way to load the individual applets in AudioHQ without > loading the entire AudioHQ window? > Thanks! > Jack Rambo > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Reminds me of the time I started to flip and grabbed the wheel real tight and ducked my head down. Damn did I feel stupid!!!!! buzard

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> Have a funny little anecdote I thought I'd share with you guys. But before I > tell the story, bear in mind that I've recently added a SB Live and a > Voodoo3 3000 to my system. So I'm now able to run 1024 x 768, all features, > quality, effects settings maxed, 50% detail bias, 16 sounds, 36 fps on a 19" > monitor with a full AI field. Suffice it to say it's pretty immersive. And > now for the anecdote that I offer in evidence... > The other night I was racing around chasing the AI at Zandy. After about 8 > laps I was sitting about 5th with the usual collection of green cars up the > road and just out of sight: Hulme, Brabham, Hill, and Clark. > On the ninth lap, as I come out of Tarzanbocht, I see an infamous green car > parked in the grass on the right about halfway up the chute that leads to > the dog-leg left. Since I had been reeling 4th place in, I was anxious to > see exactly who it was that had retired. I was hoping that it was Clark...I > thought perhaps I could ultimately catch the others, but knew I had little > chance of overtaking dear Jimmy. > So as I approached, I was determined to get a good look to see who the > unfortunate soul was. Grab a good quick look, I told myself. In a flash I'm > on top of the crippled car and as I pass I turn and take that good look. > No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away > from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! > Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my > desk! LOL! > I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no > longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's > complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! > Jack Rambo > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I just run normal multi-speaker, with about 15% reverb. I saw a big difference between 2 speakers and 4, like I was missing a lot of the sounds with just 2. -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten [link lost in import: /%204.htm] > Other then having sound come from all four speakers, I fail to hear the > difference between 4 and 2. > So, With the SB live environments, what environments are you using? I have > listed a "3D Racing game" and use that. Is that what you use? and did you > position the sound coming from the speakers with the software? > Mike Barlow > > The Live card with 4 speakers indeed sound awesome! > > -- > > Don Burnette > > Palmetto Racing > > Dburn on Ten > > [link lost in import: /%204.htm] > > > That live card is good isn't it. If your'e not runnning four speakers then > > you > > > still have more fun ahead of you! fwiw I tried the cambridge and was > > > dissapointed in the lack of midrange and the fact that at max rpm in the > > honda > > > the subwoofer was still working even though it was turned all the way > > down. So I > > > added another set of yamaha speakers with a subwoofer, then I attached the > > > subwoofer to the bottom of the seat in my***pit! Woo Hoo, force feedback > > for > > > the butt! > -- > ========================================= > Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > ========================================= > Member of R.O.R. 1999 > http://w3.ime.net/~marknjess/ror.html > ========================================= > Racing online with the help of...... > Race Communications Association > http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > Holodyne Engineering > Mystic Music > (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

| Have you discovered a way to load the individual applets in AudioHQ without | loading the entire AudioHQ window? Left click the SBLive-icon in the taskbar tray. -- Oeivind Hagen

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>Have a funny little anecdote I thought I'd share with you guys. But before I >tell the story, bear in mind that I've recently added a SB Live and a >Voodoo3 3000 to my system. So I'm now able to run 1024 x 768, all features, >quality, effects settings maxed, 50% detail bias, 16 sounds, 36 fps on a 19" >monitor with a full AI field. Suffice it to say it's pretty immersive. And >now for the anecdote that I offer in evidence... >The other night I was racing around chasing the AI at Zandy. After about 8 >laps I was sitting about 5th with the usual collection of green cars up the >road and just out of sight: Hulme, Brabham, Hill, and Clark. >On the ninth lap, as I come out of Tarzanbocht, I see an infamous green car >parked in the grass on the right about halfway up the chute that leads to >the dog-leg left. Since I had been reeling 4th place in, I was anxious to >see exactly who it was that had retired. I was hoping that it was Clark...I >thought perhaps I could ultimately catch the others, but knew I had little >chance of overtaking dear Jimmy. >So as I approached, I was determined to get a good look to see who the >unfortunate soul was. Grab a good quick look, I told myself. In a flash I'm >on top of the crippled car and as I pass I turn and take that good look. >No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away >from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! >Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my >desk! LOL! >I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no >longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's >complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! >Jack Rambo >www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Does any1 know if GPL1.1 will have 3d audio support, that would be excellent. I'm drooling already waiting for the forcefeedback. With 3d sound to go with my eyescream 3d glasses and forcefeedback I think I could definitely get totally immersed then. Has any1 banged there head on something to the side of them yet from leaning over to far trying to help the car around the corner? DOH I have. -- Vince Fisher

Hey Jack, Quit looking 'round your room er, the track and get GPaL finished :) Jeff (I know you were testing)

Hehe Nows who's the nut ! :))) Rick

Okay, you got me, Rick! But I know *you* have stories like that you could share! :) Jack www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

?ivind... I try not to do mice and never load any resource-consuming, slow-boot-inducing junk in the taskbar tray! I'm curious about access to the individual SB Live applets so that I can assign keyboard shortcuts to them. :) Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

leaning over to far trying to help the car around the corner? DOH I have.< Haven't done that, Vince, but I do find myself jamming my left foot up against my system unit, which sits under my desk and to my left. It's a carryover from my racing days when I would jam my left foot up against the footwell wall in order to secure it. When I find myself in a really tight spot in GPL, I instinctively start hunting for that elusive footwell wall. Hehe. Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I knew that was coming! :) All work and no play... Jack www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Yep, Phil. Haven't done that with the instruments, but I have tried to look around the virtual arms to see the gear lever. And here's another good one that I bet everybody's attempted: Ever instinctively craned your head to the left or right to get an expanded field of view in a mirror? Jack www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I often wonder what my neighbors think is going on inside my house! LOL! And I worry about the long term effects of this cranked GPL "music." It can't be good for you, but, unfortunately, at least for those around us and for the health of our ears, volume really does seem to add to GPL performance. The audible cues are so much more evident! May 31 is still the target. :) Jack www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Oh yeah? At least you don't start leaning into the turns like I find myself doing! What nerds we are! Reminds me of when I phsically jumped out of my chair in DOOM, turning a nice quiet corner to find a big pink Demon jumping at me! Mikey the (gullible) Slowpoke

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|Reminds me of the time I started to flip and grabbed the wheel real tight |and ducked my head down. Damn did I feel stupid!!!!! | |buzard | | | |> Have a funny little anecdote I thought I'd share with you guys. But

before I |> tell the story, bear in mind that I've recently added a SB Live and a |> Voodoo3 3000 to my system. So I'm now able to run 1024 x 768, all features, |> quality, effects settings maxed, 50% detail bias, 16 sounds, 36 fps on a 19" |> monitor with a full AI field. Suffice it to say it's pretty immersive. And |> now for the anecdote that I offer in evidence... |> |> The other night I was racing around chasing the AI at Zandy. After about 8 |> laps I was sitting about 5th with the usual collection of green cars up the |> road and just out of sight: Hulme, Brabham, Hill, and Clark. |> |> On the ninth lap, as I come out of Tarzanbocht, I see an infamous green car |> parked in the grass on the right about halfway up the chute that leads to |> the dog-leg left. Since I had been reeling 4th place in, I was anxious to |> see exactly who it was that had retired. I was hoping that it was Clark...I |> thought perhaps I could ultimately catch the others, but knew I had little |> chance of overtaking dear Jimmy. |> |> So as I approached, I was determined to get a good look to see who the |> unfortunate soul was. Grab a good quick look, I told myself. In a flash I'm |> on top of the crippled car and as I pass I turn and take that good look. |> |> No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away |> from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! |> Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my |> desk! LOL! |> |> I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no

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|> longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's |> complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! |> |> Jack Rambo |> www.RaceLive.com/GPaL |

One of the great things about the Logitech pedal base is a good sized "dead pedal" next to the brake, just right for bracing yourself against those heavy g-forces in GPL<g>.

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>>Has any1 banged there head on something to the side of them yet from >leaning over to far trying to help the car around the corner? DOH I >have.< >Haven't done that, Vince, but I do find myself jamming my left foot up >against my system unit, which sits under my desk and to my left. It's a >carryover from my racing days when I would jam my left foot up against the >footwell wall in order to secure it. When I find myself in a really tight >spot in GPL, I instinctively start hunting for that elusive footwell wall. >Hehe. >Jack Rambo >www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

-don

So that's where the sig comes from<g>. -don

hahaha! :o))) I have told people about this before.... I was racing in a 20car race at spa one night (online) I was really in the racing zone (doing 3:19's) and starting to close onto 5th position (i started at the back) i came through the kink and saw 3 or 4 cars piled up right on the racing line, within a milisecond I had hit them... and you know what? this actually physically shocked me, I felt shock! I sat there, with my car upside down near 'the house' and couldn't do anything, I had frozen! I was breathing really weird and i could feel my heart beating! I must of sat there for 5 minutes just loosely clutching the wheel and staring into the computer screen! -- Tim "Calm Down" Wheatley ________________________________________________ Tim Wheatley "Yellow menacing helmet in the mirror" http://start.at/igps_stats IGPS - Ferrari Challenge - UKGPL - Summer Cup Driver http://drive.to/grandprixlegends http://website.lineone.net/~nascar ________________________________________________

one more thing..... jack..... do you live in RAS?? LOL -- Tim "Calm Down" Wheatley ________________________________________________ Tim Wheatley "Yellow menacing helmet in the mirror" http://start.at/igps_stats IGPS - Ferrari Challenge - UKGPL - Summer Cup Driver http://drive.to/grandprixlegends http://website.lineone.net/~nascar ________________________________________________ > Yep, Phil. Haven't done that with the instruments, but I have tried to look > around the virtual arms to see the gear lever. > And here's another good one that I bet everybody's attempted: > Ever instinctively craned your head to the left or right to get an expanded > field of view in a mirror? > Jack > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I had a VERY embarraseing Immersion Episode. I was yelling at the top 3 AI cars circulating around Watkins Glen when two of my housemates came down from upstairs to see if I was alright... Doug

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>one more thing..... jack..... do you live in RAS?? LOL >-- >Tim "Calm Down" Wheatley >________________________________________________ > Tim Wheatley > "Yellow menacing helmet in the mirror" > http://start.at/igps_stats > IGPS - Ferrari Challenge - UKGPL - Summer Cup Driver > http://drive.to/grandprixlegends > http://website.lineone.net/~nascar >________________________________________________ >> Yep, Phil. Haven't done that with the instruments, but I have tried to >look >> around the virtual arms to see the gear lever. >> And here's another good one that I bet everybody's attempted: >> Ever instinctively craned your head to the left or right to get an >expanded >> field of view in a mirror? >> Jack >> www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Me? A quick post count back to, say, April 1 reveals: Jack Rambo 168 Tim Wheatley 121 With the NTT series and the announcement of GPaL in that time frame, I'd say you're holding your own! Keep up the good work, I'm predicting that once GPaL gets out the door, you'll overtake me with no difficulty! Jack Rambo www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

how about going out and buying a real racing helmet and crank the speakers full blast to get that inside the helmet sound!

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>>If I get it too loud my neighbor lets me know!< >I often wonder what my neighbors think is going on inside my house! LOL! >And I worry about the long term effects of this cranked GPL "music." It >can't be good for you, but, unfortunately, at least for those around us and >for the health of our ears, volume really does seem to add to GPL >performance. The audible cues are so much more evident! >>See ya, John Moore - ps when is GPaL comin out? >May 31 is still the target. :) >Jack >www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

The sig?? -- Tim "Calm Down" Wheatley ________________________________________________ Tim Wheatley "Yellow menacing helmet in the mirror" http://start.at/igps_stats IGPS - Ferrari Challenge - UKGPL - Summer Cup Driver http://drive.to/grandprixlegends http://website.lineone.net/~nascar ________________________________________________

LOL ! dammit, you got me! :o) -- Tim "Calm Down" Wheatley ________________________________________________ Tim Wheatley "Yellow menacing helmet in the mirror" http://start.at/igps_stats IGPS - Ferrari Challenge - UKGPL - Summer Cup Driver http://drive.to/grandprixlegends http://website.lineone.net/~nascar ________________________________________________

Of course! I take examples from the NROS and even GPL online. When I see ahead a pileup and you know that you have no chance of passing it alive, normally Im so physically and mentally concentrated into my racing that it will hurt myself. You will flex the muscles, sometimes close your eyes. The brain will associate your actions that way, since psychologically your actually racing, the only difference are the physical forces you endorse in a racecar. The brain will probably flow adrenaline into your ***, or release some enzymes so that you sweat, heart beat goes faster, dry throat etc.. I mean you are racing for real, just in a virtual environment!. So all the emotions are done the same way. It just hurts less :) The mental concentration will make you subliminally try to look above your virtual arms to look at what gear your in, make your head pan left and right depending on the cornering, etc.. I know that my cat Chewbacca (real name ;-D ) never sleeps near my PC anymore when I race, because of those actions we subliminally do. The sensation of loosing, frustration, joy, etc.. it all applies in the same way you know :) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

LOL good onya Jack, I did something once just as stupid, I was going round a corner and my hand on the cars steering wheeel were blocking the view to my gauges, so what did I do...... you guessed it I lifted my hand on the wheel I was using and wondered why the hand in the game didn't move :)) did I feel silly, GPL what a simulation. Regards Phil. Snip > No wait! Did you catch that? I turned...I turned my head to the right, away > from the monitor, expecting to see a Lotus or Brabham sitting over there! > Couldn't quite make out a number on the pile of books sitting on my > desk! LOL! > I thought to myself...Wow! They've finally done...virtual reality. We can no > longer distinguish what's real from what's imagined! GPL immersion's > complete! Speaks volumes about the quality of this sim! > Jack Rambo > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I was on a hotlap at Spa last night and encountered a stricken Honda exiting Stavelot, and pulled my left arm in to stop hitting it as I went past :) -- Ian Parker ICQ 21772592 > Yep, Phil. Haven't done that with the instruments, but I have tried to look > around the virtual arms to see the gear lever. > And here's another good one that I bet everybody's attempted: > Ever instinctively craned your head to the left or right to get an expanded > field of view in a mirror? > Jack > www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

I have been known to duck when I'm about to land on my sim-head :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 ________________________________________________________________________________ "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" (Calvin & Hobbes)

And then there was me, sitting at an intersection yesterday, looking across at a stand of old oak trees, and marveling, "what excellent graphics!" --david > >I was on a hotlap at Spa last night and encountered a stricken Honda exiting

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> >Stavelot, and pulled my left arm in to stop hitting it as I went past :) > I have been known to duck when I'm about to land on my sim-head :-) > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk > ICQ# 11257824

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