Nascar 1999 / Voodoo3. Can you help? Any luck?

Has anyone got Nascar 1999 (3dfx version) to work with there Voodoo 3 cards? I have had good luck when it comes down to running most glide games with exception of a few EA titles but this one just doesn't want to boot up. After the install, I clicked on the 3dfx 1999 version and immediately it says,"Program has performed an illegal operation." so I clicked the details tab and at the top in the details it says,"NR 1999 DEMO 3DFX caused an invalid page fault in module GLIDE2X.DLL. I called Siera and they gave me the talk that everyones had good luck with N1999 and the V3 but could not help me with the demo. Basicly the gal said,"Buy it, if it don't work, theres a 30 day money back guarentee". Eehh......... By the way, system consists of: Gateway Celeron 466 128 SDRAM Current V3 drivers and DirectX6.1 Voodoo3 2000 PCI Thanks for your help. I would love to see Nascar running at full details on this machine! Best Regards, Tony Gaylord

Tony You will have to use the 3dfx Dos version in N99. I get the exact same error message when I try to execute the windows version. I have done a fresh install of Win 98 and N99 but still the same problem. Looks like the Voodoo3 glide.dll is not as completely backward compatible as 3dfx says. Don Merpaw Netracer

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> Tony > You will have to use the 3dfx Dos version in N99. I get the exact same > error message when I try to execute the windows version. I have done a > fresh install of Win 98 and N99 but still the same problem. Looks like the > Voodoo3 glide.dll is not as completely backward compatible as 3dfx says. > Don Merpaw > Netracer > > Has anyone got Nascar 1999 (3dfx version) to work with there Voodoo 3 > > cards? I have had good luck when it comes down to running most glide > > games with exception of a few EA titles but this one just doesn't want > > to boot up. After the install, I clicked on the 3dfx 1999 version and > > immediately it says,"Program has performed an illegal operation." so I > > clicked the details tab and at the top in the details it says,"NR 1999 > > DEMO 3DFX caused an invalid page fault in module GLIDE2X.DLL. > > I called Siera and they gave me the talk that everyones had good luck > > with N1999 and the V3 but could not help me with the demo. Basicly the > > gal said,"Buy it, if it don't work, theres a 30 day money back > > guarentee". Eehh......... > > By the way, system consists of: > > Gateway Celeron 466 > > 128 SDRAM > > Current V3 drivers and DirectX6.1 > > Voodoo3 2000 PCI > > Thanks for your help. I would love to see Nascar running at full details > > on this machine! > > Best Regards, > > Tony Gaylord

Thanks for your reply Don. Is there a DOS version for the N99 "demo" though, or just the retail version? Thank you! Tony

The full version of NR1999 will fine with the Voodoo3, as long as the opening movie is being played. However if you do a full install and delete the movie from the NR1999 directory (the file is nr1999.smk) the Windows 3dfx EXE will crash with that error. Because the demo doesn't have the intro, I believe it will crash on the Voodoo3 as well. Eric

Did you delete the NR1999.SMK intro video? Eric says.

> Did you delete the NR1999.SMK intro video? > Eric Eric, No, didn't delete the intro movie. Can this file be obtained from somewhere and placed into the correct path? And to Revved: This.bat entry your refering to, would it help in this case with the demo? Thanks you guys for your help. I really want to see N99 with the V3............ Tony

That was in response to Don who was having the same problem with the full version. The full version of the game runs just fine on the Voodoo3, unless you delete the movie at which point this crash will occur. As I responded to you, the demo doesn't come with the movie and as such will have the crash on the Voodoo3. Basically: 'Movie -> Game Runs' 'No Movie -> Game Crashes' Eric

Tony, I've got it and it works fine with retail version.

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> Has anyone got Nascar 1999 (3dfx version) to work with there Voodoo 3 > cards? I have had good luck when it comes down to running most glide > games with exception of a few EA titles but this one just doesn't want > to boot up. After the install, I clicked on the 3dfx 1999 version and > immediately it says,"Program has performed an illegal operation." so I > clicked the details tab and at the top in the details it says,"NR 1999 > DEMO 3DFX caused an invalid page fault in module GLIDE2X.DLL. > I called Siera and they gave me the talk that everyones had good luck > with N1999 and the V3 but could not help me with the demo. Basicly the > gal said,"Buy it, if it don't work, theres a 30 day money back > guarentee". Eehh......... > By the way, system consists of: > Gateway Celeron 466 > 128 SDRAM > Current V3 drivers and DirectX6.1 > Voodoo3 2000 PCI > Thanks for your help. I would love to see Nascar running at full details > on this machine! > Best Regards, > Tony Gaylord

FYI, the demo is hardcoded not to run a movie so downloading a NR1999.SMK will not help. It's a good idea for Voodoo3 users with the full-version who want to save a little drive space and make the game load faster however... Eric

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> On Thu, 20 May 1999 16:43:41 -0400, > >The full version of NR1999 will fine with the Voodoo3, as long as the > >opening movie is being played. However if you do a full install and > >delete the movie from the NR1999 directory (the file is nr1999.smk) > >the Windows 3dfx EXE will crash with that error. Because the demo > >doesn't have the intro, I believe it will crash on the Voodoo3 as > >well. > >Eric > That is great info, Eric!! I had deleted the intro from the start, > and when I got my V3 n1999 wouldn't run. I got the .BAT file > info from the group and that made it work. Thanks for the info! > Also, for anyone that wants it, I have put a dummy nr1999.smk on > my ftp site. It takes a little less space.. (580 bytes)

Revved, To me it sounds like theres no way then to get the demo to work then, correct? Eric mentioned that the demo was not coded to play the intro so even trying to implement this dummy file wouldn't get the demo to work would it? With ALL of the N2 and 99 sites out there with all these utilites etc, I'm surprised no ones made a patch to get the demo to work on the Voodoo3. Thanks for your help, let me know what you think. Best Regards, Tony Gaylord

Eric.. could this be the case of people having problems on the NROS with Voodoo3's when they install the NROS package with NR99 ? I heard numbers of people when Im guiding with such a problem, so is there a solution for that ? -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

No, any problems they may be experiencing are completely unrelated. Eric for that?

> No, any problems they may be experiencing are completely unrelated. > Eric Eric and all, Something comes to mind here then about the demo and the missing movie intro. If that file had been pulled from the demo, does that mean that NO 3dfx cards will work with the demo? I'm not challenging you here or anything but if that was the case then why does the beggining of the demo perform a system check and when it does detect a 3dfx card, it alows you to then select a 3DFX version of the demo? If you correct about the missing file then is it pretty safe to say that no one has played the demo in Glide after Sierra pulled the movie intro? Wether it be Voodoo1,V2 or V3? Once again, not challenging you but after all on most 3d FTP servers (3d files, VoodooExtreme) it says,"Glide API". Thanks for all your help. Best Regards, Tony Gaylord

No, the problem is limited to the Voodoo3 and probably the Banshee (I haven't tested the latter, but I'm pretty sure it will happen there as well). The NR1999 demo will however runs fine on the Voodoo 1 and 2. To be clear it's not really that the missing movie actually breaks the demo, just that the playing of the movie in the full-version gets around the problem. The system check at the beginning doesn't check to see if a 3dfx card is in the system (AFAIK it just verifies your OS and the amount of disk space you have available), so both the software and 3dfx options are available an all machines. Eric

Eric You are absolutely right. Reinstalling the smk file fixed the problem. I'm still kicking myself because while I did notice it would run from the CD I never clued in to the fact that it was the intro video that needed to be avail. Also thanks to rrevved for the greatly reduced .smk file. The original 54 meg file was deleted to save space. Don Merpaw Netracer

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> The full version of NR1999 will fine with the Voodoo3, as long as the > opening movie is being played. However if you do a full install and > delete the movie from the NR1999 directory (the file is nr1999.smk) > the Windows 3dfx EXE will crash with that error. Because the demo > doesn't have the intro, I believe it will crash on the Voodoo3 as > well. > Eric > > Has anyone got Nascar 1999 (3dfx version) to work with there Voodoo > 3 > > cards? I have had good luck when it comes down to running most glide > > games with exception of a few EA titles but this one just doesn't > want > > to boot up. After the install, I clicked on the 3dfx 1999 version > and > > immediately it says,"Program has performed an illegal operation." so > I > > clicked the details tab and at the top in the details it says,"NR > 1999 > > DEMO 3DFX caused an invalid page fault in module GLIDE2X.DLL. > > I called Siera and they gave me the talk that everyones had good > luck > > with N1999 and the V3 but could not help me with the demo. Basicly > the > > gal said,"Buy it, if it don't work, theres a 30 day money back > > guarentee". Eehh.........