1:10.25 at Wat' Glen, in Eagle?

i use a fairly standard setup (just fuel amount and steering ratio changed for my preference) and have done a 1.08.20 lap at the glen in the lotus which is quite similar to the eagle im not a particularly fast driver neither soory to put ou down but i thinbk 1.06-1.17 secs could be managed by some of the top hotlappers like Wolfgang Woeger jay

My best lap in the Eagle at the Glen is about a 1:09.35 Im no ace at GPL yet... so take it for what its worth =) Scott PA-Scott G.T.S. Racing - http://www.GTS-Racing.com

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> x-no-archive: yes > I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix > Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the > Default garage setup. > This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since > first buying GPL. > Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap > at the Glen? > Spirewolf

-- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott on TEN http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted ICQ# 4395450

I've done a 1:06.33 with the default setup using the Lotus. I'm sure that it has at least a 1:05 in it. Scottie

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>x-no-archive: yes >I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix >Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the >Default garage setup. >This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since >first buying GPL. >Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap >at the Glen? >Spirewolf

I've run mid-1:06s there in the Eagle, but have seen 1:04s from some Eagle drivers. The Lotus is capable of very low 1:04s, though I won't rule out someone hitting the 1:03s. You can find guys using ferraris in the 1:04s as well. -- Erik Frechette The Pits Performance Team www.theuspits.com/owheel/gpl/gpl.html

On Wed, 19 May 1999 00:03:11 GMT, "Erik Frechette"

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>I've run mid-1:06s there in the Eagle, but have seen 1:04s from some Eagle >drivers. The Lotus is capable of very low 1:04s, though I won't rule out >someone hitting the 1:03s. You can find guys using ferraris in the 1:04s as >well. >-- >Erik Frechette >The Pits Performance Team >www.theuspits.com/owheel/gpl/gpl.html >> x-no-archive: yes >> I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix >> Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the >> Default garage setup. >> This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since >> first buying GPL. >> Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap >> at the Glen? >> Spirewolf

I'm sure it's possible in the Lotus, but I am surprised by the Ferrari part. It's such an unstable car to drive... Griffin, the Slayer

I really must start racing with the Lotus, as thus far my best lap times have been with the Eagle and Honda. Griffin, the Slayer

> My best lap in the Eagle at the Glen is about a 1:09.35 > Im no ace at GPL yet... so take it for what its worth =) Shut up Scott, you're no ace, period :-) -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

I have managed a 1:06.40 in the Eagle with the only change to the setup being the fuel load. I run enough fuel for a Pro Long race. Good luck! Jeff H.

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>x-no-archive: yes >I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix >Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the >Default garage setup. >This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since >first buying GPL. >Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap >at the Glen? >Spirewolf

> I've run mid-1:06s there in the Eagle, but have seen 1:04s from some Eagle > drivers. The Lotus is capable of very low 1:04s, though I won't rule out > someone hitting the 1:03s. You can find guys using ferraris in the 1:04s as > well. Wolfgang Woeger has done a 1:03.61 in the Lotus - as far as I know, that is the current world record. I found a German website that seems to be where the top drivers hang out - the times are absolutely sensational! If you're interested in what you're up against, it's at: http://216.13.117.36/~schubi/fastlaps.htm

Graeme Nash my friend. He can drive the Ferrari fast ANYWHERE. ::) -- Erik Frechette The Pits Performance Team www.theuspits.com/owheel/gpl/gpl.html > On Wed, 19 May 1999 00:03:11 GMT, "Erik Frechette" > >I've run mid-1:06s there in the Eagle, but have seen 1:04s from some Eagle > >drivers. The Lotus is capable of very low 1:04s, though I won't rule out > >someone hitting the 1:03s. You can find guys using ferraris in the 1:04s as > >well. > >-- > >Erik Frechette > >The Pits Performance Team > >www.theuspits.com/owheel/gpl/gpl.html > >> x-no-archive: yes > >> I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix > >> Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the > >> Default garage setup. > >> This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since > >> first buying GPL. > >> Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap > >> at the Glen? > >> Spirewolf > I'm sure it's possible in the Lotus, but I am surprised by the Ferrari > part. It's such an unstable car to drive... > Griffin, the Slayer

Not forgetting Wolfi Woeger's 1m04.9 in the Coventry :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 ________________________________________________________________________________ "Sorry, my eyes were on screensaver" (Calvin & Hobbes)

>I've done a 1:06.33 with the default setup using the Lotus. I'm sure that it >has at least a 1:05 in it. >Scottie -< Ego on >- Correct, I've managed 1:05.78 -< Ego off >-

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>>x-no-archive: yes >>I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix >>Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the >>Default garage setup. >>This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since >>first buying GPL. >>Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap >>at the Glen? >>Spirewolf

--- David Goodwin

Oh No! The "Shut Up Scott" virus is spreading from the TEN newsgroup to RAS. LOL ;) Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

My reply wasn't a "Shut up, Scott"! Just giving you something to shoot for.:-) When I was running 1:09's at the Glen, I couldn't have imagined 1:06's were possible for my skill level and the fact that I was running the default setup. I would notice that, when practicing, I would hit a stage where I would "break through". 1:09,..... 1:09,... 1:07,.... 1:07,.... 1:06.... After a bunch of laps, I would find a vital key to improving my lap times and it was remarkably consistent. Keep trying! Aim for consistency first, speed second. The speed will come with being really consistent. J.

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>Oh No! >The "Shut Up Scott" virus is spreading from the TEN newsgroup to RAS. >LOL ;) >Scott >PA-Scott >-- >Scott B. Husted >ICQ# 4395450

I drive the Eagle all the time now, and tend to use the default set-up for hotlapping as its *very* stable (I drop the fuel to 5 laps, but thats about it?) I have done a 1:06.84 using this set-up, and it *wasn't* a realy good lap, there are a couple of errors which show up on the replay. I reckon if I practised hard I might just get into the high 1:05's myself? However, I think the current fastest for the Eagle is probably a low 1:05 (maybe even a low 1:04) laptime? The Fastest lap in *any* car is currently in the 1:03's at the Glen. 8-) Keep practicing..... *Peter* 8-)

On Thu, 20 May 1999 07:45:36 -0400, "c0ldfusi0n"

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>When I was running 1:09's at the Glen, I couldn't have imagined 1:06's were >possible for my skill level and the fact that I was running the default >setup. I would notice that, when practicing, I would hit a stage where I >would "break through". 1:09,..... 1:09,... 1:07,.... 1:07,.... 1:06.... >After a bunch of laps, I would find a vital key to improving my lap times >and it was remarkably consistent. Keep trying! Aim for consistency first, >speed second. The speed will come with being really consistent.

Perhaps this is due to the car itself. When driving you're using up more fuel, which in turn makes the car lighter, which increases speed and acceleration. Also, the more you drive the warmer your tyres become, and the warmer they are the more they will stick to the track. :) Griffin, the Slayer

Were those 1:06's done with the default setup? If so, I don't see HOW... __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

How? Everytime I try to go faster in the turns, the car pushes BADLY. Or, are you going through turns at opposite-lock? I have YET to figure *that* out... :( __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

1:06.84 with the DEFAULT Eagle? Could you send me a replay? I'd like to see where I'm losing almost FOUR seconds a lap... :( __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I will crank out a replay for you and let you know where to find it. I may have one I can snip out of a Pro Long GPLWS race for you. Yes, this is with the default setup. J.

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>>I have managed a 1:06.40 in the Eagle with the only change to the setup >>being the fuel load. I run enough fuel for a Pro Long race. >>Good luck! >>Jeff H. >How? Everytime I try to go faster in the turns, the car pushes BADLY. Or,

are >you going through turns at opposite-lock? I have YET to figure *that* out... >:( >__ >Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... >remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>On Thu, 20 May 1999 07:45:36 -0400, "c0ldfusi0n" >>When I was running 1:09's at the Glen, I couldn't have imagined 1:06's were

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>>possible for my skill level and the fact that I was running the default >>setup. I would notice that, when practicing, I would hit a stage where I >>would "break through". 1:09,..... 1:09,... 1:07,.... 1:07,.... 1:06.... >>After a bunch of laps, I would find a vital key to improving my lap times >>and it was remarkably consistent. Keep trying! Aim for consistency first, >>speed second. The speed will come with being really consistent. >Perhaps this is due to the car itself. When driving you're using up >more fuel, which in turn makes the car lighter, which increases speed >and acceleration. Also, the more you drive the warmer your tyres >become, and the warmer they are the more they will stick to the track.

I am sure it is partly to do with fuel but much of the improvement comes with concentrating on being consistent lap after lap. As I get more comfortable, I can push more and more in the corners and the lap times just come down. Keeping the car under you really helps lap times as well because, as you said, tire temps play a very big part. It takes about 3 laps before I can get into the 1:06-07 range. J.

>>When I was running 1:09's at the Glen, I couldn't have imagined 1:06's were

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>>possible for my skill level and the fact that I was running the default >>setup. I would notice that, when practicing, I would hit a stage where I >>would "break through". 1:09,..... 1:09,... 1:07,.... 1:07,.... 1:06.... >>After a bunch of laps, I would find a vital key to improving my lap times >>and it was remarkably consistent. Keep trying! Aim for consistency first, >>speed second. The speed will come with being really consistent. >Were those 1:06's done with the default setup? If so, I don't see HOW...

At this point, my braking points are what I would have considered impossibly late a few months ago. You need a comfort level with the track first. Lap after lap after lap... Since racing in the GPLWS, my lap times are much improved. I am more familiar with the Eagle at all of the tracks now and the familiarity translates to lower lap times at all of them because I know how the car will react in certain situations etc. I know it seems difficult and :06's seems a long way off but I went from running 1:09's and thinking I found my limit to running 1:06's in the course of about 15 laps in one evening while practicing for the GPLWS event last season. Just make sure you keep it on the track and keep drivin'! J. PS. I went hunting for replay and I must have deleted them all! :-( I will run around the Glen one night soon and cut another one for you. Sorry.

> However, I think the current fastest for the Eagle is probably a low 1:05 > (maybe even a low 1:04) laptime? The Fastest lap in *any* car is currently > in the 1:03's at the Glen. Wolfgang Woeger has a 1:04.02 at Watkins Glen in an Eagle! And his record (in a Lotus) is 1:03:61 - http://216.13.117.36/~schubi/fastlaps.htm Dave Ewing

With the default setup, my best is 1:07.11.

Tried the F1 car yet?

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> x-no-archive: yes > I clocked a best lap of 1:10.25 yesterday morning, in Grand Prix > Legends. This was done at the Glen, driving in the Eagle and using the > Default garage setup. > This was by far the quickest lap I have managed to complete since > first buying GPL. > Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap > at the Glen? > Spirewolf

>i use a fairly standard setup (just fuel amount and steering ratio changed >for my preference) and have done a 1.08.20 lap at the glen in the lotus >which is quite similar to the eagle im not a particularly fast driver >neither soory to put ou down but i thinbk 1.06-1.17 secs could be managed by >some of the top hotlappers like Wolfgang Woeger Dumb question - how do you change the steering ratio in each car? I seem to have MISSED that setting...I just don't see it. I don't mean the steering linearity, which affects the whole game, just the one on the car. __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>i use a fairly standard setup (just fuel amount and steering ratio changed >>for my preference) and have done a 1.08.20 lap at the glen in the lotus >>which is quite similar to the eagle im not a particularly fast driver >>neither soory to put ou down but i thinbk 1.06-1.17 secs could be managed by >>some of the top hotlappers like Wolfgang Woeger >Dumb question - how do you change the steering ratio in each car? I seem to >have MISSED that setting...I just don't see it. I don't mean the steering >linearity, which affects the whole game, just the one on the car. >__ >Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... >remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You mean the steering lock? Go the garage... it's at the top right of the screen.

I've had GPL for about 3 weeks and have just managed a 1:07:88 at Watkins Glen in the Brabham with the default setup. Maybe I was just lucky but I can do 1:08 's fairly often. The only change I made was to reduce the fuel to about 8 gallons. Cheers, Handy. > Using the Default setup, how quickly have some of you completed a lap > at the Glen? > Spirewolf

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>At this point, my braking points are what I would have considered impossibly >late a few months ago. You need a comfort level with the track first. Lap >after lap after lap... Since racing in the GPLWS, my lap times are much >improved. I am more familiar with the Eagle at all of the tracks now and >the familiarity translates to lower lap times at all of them because I know >how the car will react in certain situations etc. I know it seems >difficult and :06's seems a long way off but I went from running 1:09's and >thinking I found my limit to running 1:06's in the course of about 15 laps >in one evening while practicing for the GPLWS event last season.

Ok, I ran about 53 laps yeterday. Previously, my PB was 1:08.54. After 53 laps, I improved to...1:08.46. Big change, huh - .08 sec? I hate to THINK how many laps it will take to get to 1:06's. Obviously more than 15... :) Frustrating isn't the WORD for it. I'd say my average is about 1:09.50 - 1:10.20. Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>I've had GPL for about 3 weeks and have just managed a 1:07:88 at Watkins >Glen in the Brabham with the default setup. Maybe I was just lucky but I >can do 1:08 's fairly often. The only change I made was to reduce the fuel >to about 8 gallons. >Cheers, Handy. I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns... :-) BTW, anybody remember what movie/show that was from? Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Son of a... <DOH!> Aw, MAN...It must have been too late last night when I was trying to find that... Thanks, Griffin. Eldred (back to the track...) __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I've run 1m05.2 with the default setup (with reduced fuel load) :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 ________________________________________________________________________________ "Sorry, my eyes were on screensaver" (Calvin & Hobbes)

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>>Were those 1:06's done with the default setup? If so, I don't see HOW... >I've run 1m05.2 with the default setup (with reduced fuel load) :-) >-- >Cheers! >Graeme Nash

But Graeme, you're INHUMAN...<g> Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I got stuck at the Glen doing 1:07 over and over, so I went round a few other tracks (Zandy etc, mainly at the time for the purpose of NTT) and I found when I returned to the Glen I quickly got into the 1:06's - currently I'm doing the odd mid 1:05 which I'm *very* happy about! Interesting to see what happens now I've blitzed Monaco last weekend for the purposes of a UKGPL race - going from 0 laps to about 100 over the weekend, hopefully I'll find my times reduced again, makes going back to tracks I got bored with a real pleasure (except Monza where I'm stuck trying to get into the 1:28's!) HTH -- Mike Buckley Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd Tel: +44 (0)1472 371591 Fax: +44 (0)1472 371208 http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk

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> >Ok, I ran about 53 laps yeterday. Previously, my PB was 1:08.54. After 53 > >laps, I improved to...1:08.46. Big change, huh - .08 sec? I hate to THINK how > >many laps it will take to get to 1:06's. Obviously more than 15... :) > >Frustrating isn't the WORD for it. > >I'd say my average is about 1:09.50 - 1:10.20. > I got stuck at the Glen doing 1:07 over and over, so I went round a few > other tracks (Zandy etc, mainly at the time for the purpose of NTT) and > I found when I returned to the Glen I quickly got into the 1:06's - > currently I'm doing the odd mid 1:05 which I'm *very* happy about! > Interesting to see what happens now I've blitzed Monaco last weekend for > the purposes of a UKGPL race - going from 0 laps to about 100 over the > weekend, hopefully I'll find my times reduced again, makes going back to > tracks I got bored with a real pleasure (except Monza where I'm stuck > trying to get into the 1:28's!)

I found the same thing - for me the best track for moving onto once you've reached a plateau is the Nurburgring, as it has so many corners that it really makes you live off your wits while you're learning the circuit. Whereas at other circuits you just learn to brake at certain points and try to repeat the same actions lap after lap, the Ring is so big that you have to actually learn how the car behaves in a whole lot of different circumstances, and try to predict what it will do before it's too late! All of which is very useful when you go back to the shorter circuits. The other thing you could do is to look at replays of other people's hotlaps and download their setups! ;-)

Along the thread of switching tracks, I have found that switching cars also helps when you go back to the marque of your choice. I have been testing the Brabham (vs. my trusy Eagle mount) and when returning back to the Eagle I have found my times decreasing at all the tracks. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=