** Editor's Addendum: N3 Update **

I've posted a follow-up to SRN's initial report on E3 and the upcoming projects from Papyrus/Sierra Sports. Cheers! Marc -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simproject.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

Thanks Marc, for clearing that up. However, next time check your facts before posting your article! Now it costs me 5 years of my life. <g> Remco

So let me get this straight. There will be a N2000 with annual updates for 2001, 2002, etc. There will also be a completely separate product called N3 with the GPL engine with a separate mode for those wanting simpler physics that will be released sometime next year. So basically they will be competing with themselves in the modern day NASCAR sim market after the release of N3. Does that make any sense? Why commit at E3 to a N2000 product WITH annual updates if there will be a direct competitor to those updates in the form of a completely redisigned, superior Nascar sim called N3? I suspect that if they are in fact going to commit to releasing N2000 with updates as stated at E3, then there are no concrete plans for N3. I hope I'm wrong but I cannot understand why they would continue to devote development dollars to producing updates to N2000 with its older technology if N3 has been released. Perhaps N3 will be released as an update to N2000?

Here is the update in full. Sorry, Marc, for violating your copyright and depriving your site of hits, but I think after shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, it's important to shout "never mind!" even louder. :) -----start update----- [Editor's Addendum: N3 Update] According to sources close to SRN, N2000 and NASCAR Legends will be based on the N2 engine and are planned for a fall release. Both of these are completely different projects from that of NASCAR-3. Both N2K and NL will contain some of the graphical enhancements from GPL, such as transparent smoke, sparks and the "groove", and that the AI should be improved considerably from that of N99. There may also be minor tweaks to the physics model as well, but whether it will be based on another 3D engine is unclear. However, N3 is still under development, and last reported will be still be based on the GPL engine. Unfortunately, its release date has been moved back until sometime next year. The reason seems to be because N3 requires more CPU power than GPL, and this is probably due (at least in part) to N3's larger fields. Papyrus is concerned that there's simply aren't enough people out there with machines that could run N3 well enough given current technologies. Papyrus may also be looking at ways to make N3 a little easier and more appealing for novices and casual users. We'll keep you posted! -----end update----- In other words, N3 is just late, and CART2 will be even later (if it is at all). :( Bad enough, but not the end of the world as we know it. "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> In other words, N3 is just ... ...vaporware. Joe

>...vaporware. Fast becoming the most cliched and ill-used word on the internet. _Everything_ is vapourware until it's released. Cheers! John

>_Everything_ is vapourware until it's released. Not to me. I resevere it for software that has a release date seemingly moving into the future at a rate higher than one day per day. It's not a good sign. Joe

Keeping in mind that "my facts" were told to my face by someone claiming to be in the know (Sierra). It's not a matter of going off half***ed.

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> >I've posted a follow-up to SRN's initial report on E3 and the upcoming > >projects from Papyrus/Sierra Sports. > Thanks Marc, for clearing that up. However, next time check your facts > before posting your article! Now it costs me 5 years of my life. <g> > Remco

-- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simproject.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

I don't need the hits at SRO. Thanks for posting it here though...I should have thought of it myself. =P Cheers! Marc > On 17 May <helpful items snipped> -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

>Not to me. I resevere it for software that has a release date >seemingly moving into the future at a rate higher than one day per >day. It's not a good sign. That is then a personal definition. Sliding release dates and vapourware share no correlation. Cheers! John

>>...vaporware. >Fast becoming the most cliched and ill-used word on the internet. >_Everything_ is vapourware until it's released. Hmm, my understanding of the term vaporware is: a product that is formally announced, given positive reviews by the media (even called 'revolutionary' or 'the future of xxxxxxxxx'), but never released. See: http://www.gamespot.co.uk/pc.gamespot/features/vaporware/index.html

>>_Everything_ is vapourware until it's released. >Not to me. I resevere it for software that has a release date >seemingly moving into the future at a rate higher than one day per >day. It's not a good sign. By your standard GP3 isn't vapourware then....it has no releasedate yet :-D Remco

Rather than a URL of the definition, perhaps a more apposite addition would be a URL of the "positive review" of NASCAR3 required to support the definition. Without that presumably we can conclude it not to be vapourware? Cheers! John