GPL give us a clue,Papy

I'm going to build a new PC and GPL an the forthcomming Nascar3 are my main priority. My questions are these: 1. The TNT2 graphics card has the best spec, but I could not get a TNT card to work with GPL while the Voodoo2 does (although I prefer my ageing Thriller) so do I get the Voodoo3-3000 instead? Or will the upcomming GPL patch and Nascar3 make full use of the TNT2? 2. I will probably go for the P111-550 proccessor. Will Nascar3 take advantage of the new (KNI) instruction set? I have run GPL on a P111-500/Voodoo2 combo and was quite unimpressed with the performance compared with my overclocked P11-333(375)/Thriller compbo. Only seeing at best a 10% increase in frame rate. With the GPL demo plus feedback from beta testers we had a lot of info. to go on as to the power required to run GPL. Now us computer builders and upgraders require this info. so that we can optimise our systems ready for the eagerly looked forward to GPL patch and Nascar3. GIVE US A CLUE, PAPY! Alan

Who knows...depends on if they have finished their OpenGL beta rasterizer or not..perhaps Eric Busch or Randy Cassidy can comment. If not, the TNT2 will most likely work no better than the TNT with OpenGL, mileage may vary. Got a Voodoo2 already? Get a TNT2 and hang onto the Voodoo2 til GPL/N3/et al supports either OpenGL fully or D3D. When did the P111 come out? Last I saw we were only on the P3s! :) Depends as much on the graphics drivers as the developers. I probably would expect the answer would be no, but ya never know. Use the same specs as needed now, increase slightly and then you will have a rough estimate.

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>On 5 May 1999 19:29:47 GMT, >>I have run GPL on a P111-500/Voodoo2 combo and was quite unimpressed with the >>performance compared with my overclocked P11-333(375)/Thriller compbo. Only >>seeing at best a 10% increase in frame rate. >Yank out the Voodoo2 and put a $105 Voodoo3-2000 card in that PIII-500 >and see how you feel about GPL's performance. >:)

No:) run from the voodoo3 and run far! :) If you have to choose now, i'd still says TNT2 and the keep your old V2. However, that was before the confusion over the TNT2 clock speed hmm, either way get lots of heatsinks nad internal fans 8) Z.

If the Voodoo3 is going to give him the best performance for the games he wants to play, why are you telling him to stay away from them? I wasn't aware that N3 used large textures or 32-bit color so why are you telling him to stay away from Voodoo3? Try to be more impartial here. N3 may totally suck on TNT2, you know GPL will suck on it. DLB

Yep, its true. I had a TNT before, it works, but compared to the V3 3000 i have now, that was real bad.. not only for GPL, but for any games i have ever tried. Have fun ! Tilus

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> >On 5 May 1999 19:29:47 GMT, > >>I have run GPL on a P111-500/Voodoo2 combo and was quite unimpressed with the > >>performance compared with my overclocked P11-333(375)/Thriller compbo. Only > >>seeing at best a 10% increase in frame rate. > >Yank out the Voodoo2 and put a $105 Voodoo3-2000 card in that PIII-500 > >and see how you feel about GPL's performance. > >:) > No:) run from the voodoo3 and run far! :) > If you have to choose now, i'd still says TNT2 and the keep your old V2. > However, that was before the confusion over the TNT2 clock speed > hmm, either way get lots of heatsinks nad internal fans 8) > Z.

Some people are buying hardware to have a nice box on the shelf, others buy hardware that fits the software they use. Guess, which group of people has more fun? ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

This is why I run an 8 meg thriller with a celeron 450. It runs GPL with all graphics and all cars at 36 fps once the shift to 2nd is made, 26-28 at the back of a full grid. JM

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> > >On 5 May 1999 19:29:47 GMT, > > >>I have run GPL on a P111-500/Voodoo2 combo and was quite unimpressed with the > > >>performance compared with my overclocked P11-333(375)/Thriller compbo. Only > > >>seeing at best a 10% increase in frame rate. > > >Yank out the Voodoo2 and put a $105 Voodoo3-2000 card in that PIII-500 > > >and see how you feel about GPL's performance. > > >:) > > No:) run from the voodoo3 and run far! :) > > If you have to choose now, i'd still says TNT2 and the keep your old V2. > > However, that was before the confusion over the TNT2 clock speed > > hmm, either way get lots of heatsinks nad internal fans 8) > > Z. > Some people are buying hardware to have a nice box on the shelf, others buy > hardware that fits the software they use. > Guess, which group of people has more fun? ;^) > l8er > ronny > -- > How to get rid of censorship in German game releases > <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

> This is why I run an 8 meg thriller with a celeron 450. It runs GPL with all graphics and all > cars at 36 fps once the shift to 2nd is made, 26-28 at the back of a full grid. > JM I have the Thriller, too, but Zonkie was praising the TNT2... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!