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Act Labs Wheels ??

5 posts by 3 people · 04 May 1999 - 06 May 1999

Mick 04 May 1999#465507
Anyone have one of these wheels? I believe its called the RS. I see they have developed a gated 8 speed shifter, anyone know if there are any plans to develop a patch for N2, will N3 support it, GPL? Thanks Mick Please email me I dont get out often.....hehe
John Bodin 05 May 1999#465753
I'm reviewing the ACT Labs RS wheel now -- actually, I have the full ACT Labs PDPI/RS combo, and it's really an exceptional wheel. Here's a mini-review I posted in the newsgroup previously: <SNIP> I've been evaluating both the Mad Catz Andretti wheel and the ACT Labs RS wheel -- both fall into the $65 range, but neither offers split-axis support. You CAN get split-axis support on the ACT Labs RS wheel if you order the PDPI RS cartridge and PDPI L4 digital game card, but that runs the price up into the $135 range. At any rate, I'd recommend either wheel very highly. The Andretti Wheel is a particularly nice wheel -- a real surprise, actually given the previous driving wheels that Mad Catz has brought us. The Andretti Wheel looks a bit like a Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro wheel, with better ergonomics and switch placement. It seems to be a bit more well-built than the NASCAR Pro wheel -- and the pedals have the most travel I've seen in any pedal combo, including the TSW products. The pedals have a unique dual-hinged feature that allows the pedals to pivot much like the pedals in a real car, but the motion doesn't translate well to bottom-hinged pedals, and it takes some getting used to. Once you "learn" how to use the pedals, though, they're VERY nice. Plus, the Andretti Wheel is a true digital wheel, which lessens the CPU load and provides for better frame rates. Add in the fact that it's both gameport and USB compatible right out of the box, and you've got a pretty sweet controller. From a durability standpoint, I think it's going to hold up better than the Thrustmaster products. One downside is that the Andretti Wheel is NOT compatible with DOS games, so ICR2 and N2 are out if you want to use this wheel. The ACT Labs RS wheel is also very nice -- some people have made negative remarks about the amount of friction in the pedals, but I think they may be the best set of pedals I've used aside from the TSW and TSW2 pedals. These things stay put like you wouldn't believe, and while the travel may seem a bit small compared to other pedals, the sweep is VERY linear, and they work great. Even the TSW pedals aren't really all that superior to the ACT Labs pedals. Unfortunately, the paddle shifters are not the best, and there's no stick shift, but the steering wheel itself is VERY nice and there are plenty of buttons that allow you to relocate your shift functions if the paddle shifters don't work suit you. The ACT Labs wheel also seems to be much more duarable than the Thrustmaster products. If you go with the full ACT Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support -- AND what may well be the smoothest control input, bar none (including the Saitek R4 and Microsoft Sidewinder digital FF wheels, and the Mad Catz Andretti Wheel). The only thing I've seen that's even close is a TSW2 wheel coupled with a PDPI L4 card, and THAT will set you back more than $280. I actually think the RS/PDPI combo may still be a bit smoother and offer more control than the TSW2 and PDPI L4 combo, so if you've got more than $100 to spend but don't want to get into the $200+ range, you really can't beat the ACT Labs PDPI/RS combo for $135. Both the Mad Catz Andretti Wheel and the ACT Labs RS wheel have pedals that far surpass anything that Thrustmaster has to offer, and build quality and materials that seems to promise better durability, too, so either of these would be worth considering if you're looking for a non-Force Feedback wheel in the sub-$100 range. FWIW, The IRL Insider Magazine will be conducting a head-to-head shootout of these wheels in the June issue, I believe. The review will include the ACT Labs PDPI/RS wheel, the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, plus the Logitech Formula (non-FF) wheel, the Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro wheel, and hopefully the Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport wheel. Stay tuned -- everybody's been going ga-ga over Force Feedback wheels lately, but meanwhile, the manufacturers have been producing some truly great non-FF wheels while we weren't looking. -- John Bodin Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/ P.S. Check out The IRL Insider Sim site for more reviews: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/
Quoted text (10 lines)>Anyone have one of these wheels? I believe its called the RS. >I see they have developed a gated 8 speed shifter, anyone know if there >are any plans to develop a patch for N2, will N3 support it, GPL? >Thanks >Mick >Please email me I dont get out often.....hehe
John Bodin 05 May 1999#465754
The easiest way to explain the PDPI L4 card itself is to direct you to my review: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/pdpi/ This should give you a good feeling for what the L4 card by itself is all about. The ACT Labs RS/PDPI combo review is probably about a month off (we're gearing up for coverage of the Indy 500 now, and that takes priority over hardware reviews <G>). LMK if you have any questions. -- John Bodin Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/
John Bodin 06 May 1999#465958
Oops! My bad -- I posted the wrong URL. The correct URL for the PDPI review is: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/pdpi/ -- JB
Quoted text (27 lines)>The easiest way to explain the PDPI L4 card itself is to direct you to >my review: >http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/pdpi/ >This should give you a good feeling for what the L4 card by itself is >all about. The ACT Labs RS/PDPI combo review is probably about a >month off (we're gearing up for coverage of the Indy 500 now, and that >takes priority over hardware reviews <G>). >LMK if you have any questions. >-- John Bodin > Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine > http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/ >>Can you explain this PDPI stuff, and how much it costs? >>Cheers, >>Craig >>**** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start Here (tm) ****

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