GBS and TEN. or, GPL and NASCAR.. what else is there?

I've raced the NASCAR sim on TEN for over a year. I quit TEN because of personal interest conflicts. I still long for the thrill of racing side by side in an oval track, but like Road racing better/more. GPL is the most fun I have ever had in my Sim racing career. To date, GPL on GSB is the best combination there ever has been in the Sim racing world. This is just my opinion, and I do respect the opinion of other that say that TEN is better. I guess the best way to say this is... GPL and GSB fit me best just as those that race TEN and NASCAR where those two fit them best. Either way.. I'd like to get some info, or insight, on racing other race car Sim's.. such as... Viper racing, SCGT, I don't know if there are other multi (more then 2 humans) player sims.. Where do you race them? I would assume on a private server. I bought a copy of Viper racing, and have the first demo of SCGT. SCGT I was host for a race with one other human. Has anyone raced with more then one other human? If so, I'd like to as a couple questions and get in at least one or two races. Same with Viper racing.. I'd like to ask a couple questions as well as get in one or two races. So, If you belong to a racing series with more then one human racing in real time.. Please email me so I can setup a host for a couple races to see what I may be missing in them. Mike Barlow -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? MikeBa on the TEN network. Member of R.O.R. 1999 http://w3.ime.net/~marknjess/noflame.html ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music mikeba.vcf < 1K Download

Hey Mike. I have Viper Racing. It was pretty cool for about a month... and then I got board of it. Its all fantasy tracks and although they are OK.... definitely not anything special. I thought the physics were pretty good though. Its a fun diversion from time to time, but I havent fired it up in well over a month now. I havent bought SCGT yet. I deleted the demo as well. So far I have heard mixed reviews but it seems like more people are a bit disappointed than are pleased with the final outcome. My next "big dream" sims hopes lie with Trans-Am Racing. Im begging the people involved with this sim to do it right! All indications are that they are... but who knows what the final product will bring. Real physics and multiplayer capabilities that are strong are what I look for first. Then we need a CAN-AM reunion sim. The Lotus, Shadows, etc, etc. The roars of those monsters are truly legendary. I was too young to remember the series, however Ive seen the reunions and watched videos of the CAN-AM series. Awesome =) Then of course is N3... after Sierra/Papy gets done trying to milk us all for N2000, N2000.5, N2000.75, N2001, N2001.25, etc etc based on the N2 physics engine with "updates". GPL of course is still King of the Hill in my book. I can see this sim being strong for another 1 - 2years before people even start "getting bored" with it. Heck.. it might be alot longer. We are still using the "ancient" N2 over on TEN so GPL should have a much longer life span. Im not what you would call a "gamer". The only "games" I have on my PC at home are sim racing titles. I might add SimCity 3000 or something like that... but I dont own any FPS titles. The last one I had was Dark Forces =) I don't have alot of time (work, wife, MBA classes, sleep) so the time I have is devoted to sim racing only and G.T.S. Racing (http://www.GTS-Racing.com). GPL and N2 are my two sims of choice at this time. Id like to see a new CART sim or F1 sim that really rocks. Something that compares to GPL with great multiplayer capabilities. A company can put out the greatest physics engine and sim out there. However, if it doesnt have multiplayer capability... Im just not interested. I have N99 and have used it twice! I think maybe 45 minutes total use time. I havent run N2 offline in ages. Its multiplayer or nothing =) We all should be thankful that there are a great number of talented individuals out there who provide us with items such as VROC, Spy Boy, GPaL, etc. Their contribution to our hobby is immeasurable. As far as TEN being better than GPL or vice versa... they are 2 totally different beasts. I love the close action of N2 on TEN and racing with 23 other drivers. Nothing like banging doors like that. However, GPL is a huge challenge and its just awesome fun because you cannot master everything in it. Not that I have mastered N2 by any stretch of the imagination, but GPL is just a different beast. TEN offers a bit more structure with rankings, greater number of organized leagues, etc. IMHO - They are both fantastic and I enjoy participating in them both. Im glad I dont have to choose one over the other. Scott PA-Scott G.T.S. Racing - http://www.GTS-Racing.com -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

Mike, Just like GPL, Viper and SCGT run on listen servers, i.e. users who decide to host a multiplayer race (at least as soon as GPL1.1 comes out GPL will have a dedicated server version). So basically its like pre-VROC days for GPL in regards to Viper and SCGT. If you are running a league and have a good host you can use then you dont need a VROC equivalent just supply all drivers with the host's IP addy. However, be warned that SCGT is not supposedly a great multiplayer game....in fact the pathetically small manual that comes with the game states that it can only handle SIX players on a LAN. Mileage may vary. Btw, it should be noted that its really the GPL/VROC/GSB combo. GSB uses VROC's servers and is just a different front end from the original VROC java front end.

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> I've raced the NASCAR sim on TEN for over a year. I quit TEN > because of personal interest conflicts. I still long for the thrill of > racing side by side in an oval track, but like Road racing better/more. > GPL is the most fun I have ever had in my Sim racing career. To > date, GPL on GSB is the best combination there ever has been in the Sim > racing world. This is just my opinion, and I do respect the opinion of > other that say that TEN is better. I guess the best way to say this > is... GPL and GSB fit me best just as those that race TEN and NASCAR > where those two fit them best. > Either way.. I'd like to get some info, or insight, on racing other > race car Sim's.. such as... > Viper racing, > SCGT, > I don't know if there are other multi (more then 2 humans) player sims.. > Where do you race them? I would assume on a private server. I > bought a copy of Viper racing, and have the first demo of SCGT. SCGT I > was host for a race with one other human. Has anyone raced with more > then one other human? If so, I'd like to as a couple questions and get > in at least one or two races. Same with Viper racing.. I'd like to ask > a couple questions as well as get in one or two races. > So, If you belong to a racing series with more then one human racing > in real time.. Please email me so I can setup a host for a couple races > to see what I may be missing in them. > Mike Barlow > -- > ========================================= > Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > MikeBa on the TEN network. > Member of R.O.R. 1999 > http://w3.ime.net/~marknjess/noflame.html > ========================================= > Racing online with the help of...... > Race Communications Association > http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > Holodyne Engineering > Mystic Music

Nascar3 (2000), its the reason I bought and race GPL (besides the fact its a papy product) Hans

Thanks. I have the converter.... havent used it yet though <VBG> Scott PA-Scott G.T.S. Racing - http://www.GTS-Racing.com

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> On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:01:11 GMT, "Scott B. Husted" > >snipped. > Scott, > I haven't tried but have heard good things about a track converter > that converts N2/Cart tracks for use with GPL. I'd try it but I gave > my N2 to a friend. > Anyway you might inquire on GSB chat where to get it if it sounds good > to you. > John Burrowes

-- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott on TEN http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted ICQ# 4395450

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:01:11 GMT, "Scott B. Husted" >snipped. Scott, I haven't tried but have heard good things about a track converter that converts N2/Cart tracks for use with GPL. I'd try it but I gave my N2 to a friend. Anyway you might inquire on GSB chat where to get it if it sounds good to you. John Burrowes