Does such an entity even exist?
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Does such an entity even exist?
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>
Voodoo? I doubt it does. Voodoos haven't been supported for a long, long
time. Why not go out and spend a few bucks to get a low-end nVidia card?
Alanb
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:21:22 GMT, "Rich" <[email hidden]> pulled
his head out of the sand and uttered:
>Does such an entity even exist?
Glide died years ago, get over it.
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Yeah, there's a great patch. A couple of them, actually...
1. ATI Radeon.
2. nVidia GeForece.
Glide is Dodo spelled backwards. Both are gone.
-Larry
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Does such an entity even exist?
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>
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"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<efQHb.678015$HS4.4817956@attbi_s01>...
Alan, what current and compatible low end model do you recommend for
reasonable frame rates for N2003? My system is a P4 2.6GHz.
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> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:S4NHb.43396$6b2.31859@edtnps84... > > Does such an entity even exist? > > > > > > Voodoo? I doubt it does. Voodoos haven't been supported for a long, long > time. Why not go out and spend a few bucks to get a low-end nVidia card? > > Alanb
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> "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<efQHb.678015$HS4.4817956@attbi_s01>...
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> > time. Why not go out and spend a few bucks to get a low-end nVidiacard?
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> > Alanb
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> Alan, what current and compatible low end model do you recommend for
> reasonable frame rates for N2003? My system is a P4 2.6GHz.
You're running a voodoo card on a P4 2.6ghz? Wow.
I have always owned a nVidia card so I can only recommend on that side of
the equation. Try maybe a GeForce 3 Ti200. If you can still find such a
card, it's got to be dirt cheap.
I would think you could go even to a GeForce 4 card, maybe a Ti4200, and
spend under $100. Stay away from the MX cards, though.
Alanb
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> > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:S4NHb.43396$6b2.31859@edtnps84... > > > Does such an entity even exist? > > > > > > > > > > Voodoo? I doubt it does. Voodoos haven't been supported for a long,I wouldn't recommend a low-end Nvidia card to anyone.
I'm a confirmed NVidia fan but have been disappointed by the
performance I'm getting from my GeForce FX5600 (non-ultra).
I think when the after-Christmas dust settles (bills are paid) I may
be springing for an ATI 9600 Pro.
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<efQHb.678015$HS4.4817956@attbi_s01>...
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> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:S4NHb.43396$6b2.31859@edtnps84... > > Does such an entity even exist? > > > > > > Voodoo? I doubt it does. Voodoos haven't been supported for a long, long > time. Why not go out and spend a few bucks to get a low-end nVidia card? > > Alanbummm...does the Voodoo use the Glide driver for Direct 3D as well?
I didn't think it did but maybe I'm wrong.
Any Voodoo gurus out there able to answer?
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> Yeah, there's a great patch. A couple of them, actually... > > 1. ATI Radeon. > 2. nVidia GeForece. > > Glide is Dodo spelled backwards. Both are gone. > > -Larry > > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:S4NHb.43396$6b2.31859@edtnps84... > > Does such an entity even exist? > > > > > > > >VooDoo cards work with Glide, DirectX or OpenGL.
In case anyones interested, you can get newer 3rd party VooDoo drivers here.
Even for XP.
http://www.falconfly.de/3dfx.htm
There are other 3rd party sites as well.
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> ummm...does the Voodoo use the Glide driver for Direct 3D as well?
> I didn't think it did but maybe I'm wrong.
> Any Voodoo gurus out there able to answer?
No, although OpenGL does use the Glide rasteriser, usually with a
game-specific mini-GL helper file.
Direct3D is the 3D graphics part of DirectX. This is a rasteriser and
requires specific driver support. Functions not supported in hardware (by
the graphics card) are emulated in software (by the CPU) as long as the
driver supports the feature.
OpenGL is another rasteriser, and GLide can be considered a partial
implementation of OpenGL, introduced at a time when full OpenGL support in
hardware was too expensive to be mainstream.
GLide became very popular when 3D graphics were new, but struggled to keep
up with both performance and filtering quality as the technology
progressed, as did other rasterisers such as Rendition & various others.
Because 3dfx cards are specifically optimised for GLide, they run
relatively quickly in GLide compared to D3D, but since 3dfx development
stopped a few years ago 3D graphics technology has progressed such that,
for example, an nVidia Gf4 4200 can run OpenGL or D3D faster and with
higher quality filtering than a Voodoo3 running GLide, and as fast and
approaching (and exceeding in many areas) the same quality as a Voodoo5.
There really is no need to hang onto your 3dfx card as long as the games
you want to play support OpenGL or D3D, although for 2D quality a V3 or V5
will hold it's own for years to come.
I have a pair of V2's, a V3 2000, a V3 3000 and a V5 5500 in various PC's
as well as other manufacturer's cards, and I think they're all great. But
my main PC has a Gf4 in it because it's the best all round card of the
lot, and is considerably easier to set up & run in Win2k or XP than any
3dfx card.
hth, Malc.
"B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I wouldn't recommend a low-end Nvidia card to anyone.
> I'm a confirmed NVidia fan but have been disappointed by the
> performance I'm getting from my GeForce FX5600 (non-ultra).
> I think when the after-Christmas dust settles (bills are paid) I may
> be springing for an ATI 9600 Pro.
>
Is it not true that anything ?X with nVidia is not a good-performance card?
I recall someone saying (with many concurrences) that the GeForce 4
MX-something-or-other was the equivalent of a GeForce 2 card.
I see nothing wrong, however, with recommending the GeForce 3 Ti200 card.
It's cheap and has decent performance (I used to own one.).
One of these days I'll get an ATI card. As with the AMD chip, what concerns
me most with the ATI card is its stability. I've never had stability issues
with the Intel chip or with an nVidia card. Performance counts; but so does
stability.
Alanb
If you don't want to spend a lot, you should be able to find a Ti4600 pretty
cheap. The Ti4400 works great with NR2003, and the Ti4600 is even better.
It is NOT the card to get for the future though because it is not a DX9
card.
-Larry
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<efQHb.678015$HS4.4817956@attbi_s01>...
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> > time. Why not go out and spend a few bucks to get a low-end nVidiacard?
> >
> > Alanb
>
> Alan, what current and compatible low end model do you recommend for
> reasonable frame rates for N2003? My system is a P4 2.6GHz.
