Er... on what game?
Tim
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Sadly the Logitech pedals suck though... shame how we have to compromise.
M
Hi Meiji,
I agree with your idea about compromise in controllers. There is no
perfect wheel yet, unless I sell my children into slavery to finance
one. (--and sorry, I can't justify spending more on my wheel than on
my computer, software, desk and chair. :-)
I disagree with your statement about the Logitech pedals. I have had
the Logitech FF wheel for about 5 or 6 months now, and I'm extremely
happy with everything, including the pedals. Overall, this is -- by
far -- the best of the "off-the-shelf" wheels that I've tried, and
I've tried quite a few, FF and nonFF.
Would I like a little longer throw in the Logitech pedals? Yes. Do
they work well the way they are? Yes. Do they "suck?" No way. I've
seen a couple of wheels with better, or longer, throw in their pedals,
and I've seen many wheels with much worse pedals.
IMHO,
Brett
Perhaps suck was a bit harsh, but they're one of the worst sets of pedals I
have used. They're just too lightweight and flimsy to feel right with the
wheel. I much prefered the MS and Saitek pedals really.
M
>To answer the original question, I don't think it matters which paddle you
>use for up/down shifting. As long as your comfortable with it. I personally
>use the right paddle for up and the left for down. Maybe someone here can
>chime in about how actual race drivers have them set up.
As far as F1 drivers are concerned, AFAIK most drivers either
1) Use the left paddle for clutch and the right for gear changes - pull
towards you for change up, push away for change down. My wheel only has one
paddle that pushes both ways so I base my style on this (no clutch tho).
2) (If using a foot clutch) right paddle change up, left change down.
HTH.
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(Mainly F1, some GP2 stuff though)
: As far as F1 drivers are concerned, AFAIK most drivers either
: 1) Use the left paddle for clutch and the right for gear changes - pull
: towards you for change up, push away for change down. My wheel only has one
: paddle that pushes both ways so I base my style on this (no clutch tho).
: 2) (If using a foot clutch) right paddle change up, left change down.
From what I know, the only F1 driver who uses a two-way right
paddle for shifting is Jacques Villeneuve. Everyone else uses the
right-up left-down shifting arrangement regardless of whether the clutch
is on the floor or on the wheel.
Of course, my information is from 1996 so things may have changed
since then!
Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!
Most F1 drivers with the exception of Jacques Villeneuve (and possibly
Ricardo Zonta as he's a "new boy" in JV's team) use the left-down, right-up
method as they have the clutch paddle behind the gear paddle.
M
: To answer the original question, I don't think it matters which paddle you
: use for up/down shifting. As long as your comfortable with it. I personally
: use the right paddle for up and the left for down. Maybe someone here can
: chime in about how actual race drivers have them set up.
I think in F1, the most common is "right up, left down" - I remember
when, Makinnen (sp?) had a go in an F1 car last year he managed to
lose it by changing gear down instead of up - apparently rally cars
tend to work the opposite way so T.M. said at the time. (Tho' I thought
rally cars had a stick shift not paddles - but I'm not a big fan of rallying
so I can't really comment).
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Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York.
www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Makinnen was driving a Williams set up for a certain Jacques Villeneuve
last year, as was Mick Doohan. Both of them had what could be called big
"moments" :P
M
There was a semi-automatic car on Top Gear a couple of weeks back...
think it was one of the new Jaguars, can't remember. But the thing I do
remember was that the left button on the wheel was for up and I
immediately wondered if it could be configured to be the other way round.
I automatically chose right as up when I got my wheel last year... not sure
why, it just seemed like the "right" way to do it.
I'm left handed, so I shouldn't have any right-ocentric instincts.
Andrew McP
>I automatically chose right as up when I got my wheel last year... not sure
>why, it just seemed like the "right" way to do it.
That's exactly how you should choose it. The right way is the way you
feel comfortable doing it. I don't have paddle shifters (yet...), but
on my T2 I setup the stick to shift up when you push forward and
downshift when you pull back, because that's the way I like it despite
my friend's insistence that it's backwards.
So am I. Don't know what that proves, I just felt obligated to
mention it for some reason. :-)
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I suppose you guys are talking about Tommi M?kinen(Tommi Makinen, without
?)?
It's not so bad - you get used to it.
Jens
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> > apparently rally cars tend to work the opposite way > > so T.M. said at the time. > There was a semi-automatic car on Top Gear a couple of weeks back... > think it was one of the new Jaguars, can't remember. But the thing I do > remember was that the left button on the wheel was for up and I > immediately wondered if it could be configured to be the other way > round. > I automatically chose right as up when I got my wheel last year... not > sure why, it just seemed like the "right" way to do it. > I'm left handed, so I shouldn't have any right-ocentric instincts. > Andrew McPAct-Labs
Right - Up
Left - Down
Fran
compromise.
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