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GPL: blue flagged in warmup laps

9 posts by 8 people · 18 Apr 1999 - 20 Apr 1999

* Leong 18 Apr 1999#462669
Hi I first tried racing yesterday and couldn't help notice they are blue flagging me during the warm up ! ! Blue flag is for racing use to indicate a faster car is about to lap you. But I am in warm up !!! Track officials are really over enthusiatic with their flags -- regards =========================================== Singapore
Swindell 18 Apr 1999#462670
Nope, all the flags count in every session... yellow, blue, red, black and green! :)
During practice, a blue flag means there is a faster driver coming up on you, it is different than a blue flag in a race because it doesn't signify that you are getting lapped, but usually you will want to get out of their way so you don't ruin a qualifying lap. I think sometimes you get the blue flag when the guy coming up on you isn't that much faster than you, but again just take it as a warning that there's a fast guy coming, if he gets close then just move aside and let him through, you will appreciate the same behaviour by other drivers when it is you on a qualifying lap and coming up on someone fresh out of the pits. Seeyas on the track. --John (Joao) Silva
Quoted text (18 lines)>Hi >I first tried racing yesterday >and couldn't help notice they are >blue flagging me during the warm up ! ! >Blue flag is for racing use to indicate a faster >car is about to lap you. >But I am in warm up !!! >Track officials are really over enthusiatic >with their flags >-- >regards >=========================================== >Singapore
Jaso 18 Apr 1999#462672
Quit driving like an old lady then! :) *kidding*
Quoted text (18 lines)> Hi > I first tried racing yesterday > and couldn't help notice they are > blue flagging me during the warm up ! ! > Blue flag is for racing use to indicate a faster > car is about to lap you. > But I am in warm up !!! > Track officials are really over enthusiatic > with their flags > -- > regards > =========================================== > Singapore
Jack Rambo 18 Apr 1999#462673
True. Sportsmanship dictates that you give way to a faster driver in qualifying if you have just left the pits (i.e. you're on an "out lap") or are otherwise not on a hot lap. However, the converse is true if you *are* on a hot lap in qualifying. It is sporting of faster drivers not to disrupt your hot lap by filling your mirrors. By definition, if a faster driver is at all impeded by your presence, he's not posting a best time. So there's absolutely no point in running up your gearbox trying to force you to yield. On the contrary, it's the responsibility of the faster driver to position himself on the track so as not to inhibit his run or to disturb the efforts of others. In motorsport, a faster driver will slow somewhat to allow proper spacing if he finds the track congested ahead. The term used is "trolling"...substantially different in meaning than in the context of newsgroups! :) In GPL, the use of V/Shift+V in a stationary car makes proper spacing relatively easy to achieve. Use Ctrl+V to return to your***pit view. Jack Rambo
* Leong 19 Apr 1999#462827
but what am I to do ? it's only warm up ! everyone is behind each other in warm up , right | Nope, all the flags count in every session... yellow, blue, red, black and | green! :) |
T.Galvin 19 Apr 1999#462828
>but what am I to do ? >it's only warm up ! Its not a warm up its basically qualifying for the race and your holding someone up so get out of his way. Todd.
Speaking of sportsmanship: The other night I was racing at Zandvoort (I think on Jack Rambo's server) and I was running in the top 5 in my Honda for a while. There was a fast Lotus racing with a Ferrari ahead of me and they were pulling away, then when I came up to Hugenholtzbocht (the hard left before going up the hill) I noticed the Lotus on the right off the track working to get back on, and the Ferrari was waiting for him just ahead. Of course I sped past both - only to get passed a little later - but after thinking about it I figured that the Ferrari must have been at fault for the Lotus' miscue, and stopped to wait for him to get righted again. This was during the race, not warmup. I think that was a great example of "True Sportsmanship", don't you?
Quoted text (21 lines)> True. Sportsmanship dictates that you give way to a faster driver in > qualifying if you have just left the pits (i.e. you're on an "out lap") or > are otherwise not on a hot lap. > However, the converse is true if you *are* on a hot lap in qualifying. It is > sporting of faster drivers not to disrupt your hot lap by filling your > mirrors. By definition, if a faster driver is at all impeded by your > presence, he's not posting a best time. So there's absolutely no point in > running up your gearbox trying to force you to yield. On the contrary, it's > the responsibility of the faster driver to position himself on the track so > as not to inhibit his run or to disturb the efforts of others. > In motorsport, a faster driver will slow somewhat to allow proper spacing if > he finds the track congested ahead. The term used is > "trolling"...substantially different in meaning than in the context of > newsgroups! :) > In GPL, the use of V/Shift+V in a stationary car makes proper spacing > relatively easy to achieve. Use Ctrl+V to return to your***pit view. > Jack Rambo
David Ewing 20 Apr 1999#462996
> I find the flags are very helpful. Just last night I got a yellow flag at the > Parabolica during qualifying for Monza. When I came around the bend I didn't > see a thing at first, then I noticed four or five cars scattered around the > pit exit on the front straight. Heavens knows how they got themselves into > all that trouble, but it's a real credit to GPL's "persistent world" that a > big pileup happened while I was driving on the other side of the track. The strangest AI pileup (not caused by me) I've seen was at Mosport. Siffert was limping around the track trying to get back to the pits with a damaged car when it completely quit on him right after the 1st gear right-hander before the long back straight. He was stranded in the middle of the track, not in view of the other cars. As the leaders came around to lap him, they all got collected in what became a huge log jam. I was merrily trundling around in about 10th, managed to steer wide of the mess and moved up to 4th. Pretty goofy. Dave Ewing

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