Nascar 3/2000

The current release date actually for N3 is Fall of 99. But it could change as always... especially if they get some other titles on the market using the old game engine (the rumored N2000 or Nascar Legends). I guess E3 will create a more accurate release date. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Tell us what you heard about the rumors, please! That NASCAR Legends sounds be better. What would N2000 improve on from NR1999? Just askin'...... "Just when I think you have said the stupidest thing I have ever heard...you keep talking." - Hank Hill ===================================== =====================================

> Tell us what you heard about the rumors, please! That NASCAR Legends sounds would > be better. > What would N2000 improve on from NR1999? I guess we will hear more after E3 if this is the case. We only know that there is a team creating another thing at Papyrus than N3, that's official. David Matson and his team is working on another thing. The N2000/NLegends is only a rumor. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra pushed them to make another title of the (sorry but the term is true) old game engine. It could be a great product, still. We got spoiled by GPL ;-) -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Sorry to be so uninformed, but what is E3? No hints of what it is?

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>>Tell us what you heard about the rumors, please! That NASCAR >>was good, but a Papy release would be better. >>What would N2000 improve on from NR1999? >We only know that there is a team creating another thing at >Papyrus than N3, that's official. David Matson and his team >is working on another thing. The N2000/NLegends is only a >rumor. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra pushed them to >make another title of the (sorry but the term is true) old >game engine. It could be a great product, still.

IMHO, it would be a waste of development dollars to throw any more development into the old game engine, and I REALLY don't think Papy is doing this. I think it would be much safer to assume that that they're working on one of two projects (besides N3), both of which may be based on the GPL engine: 1) Cart 3 - this is probably the most likely since there's a LOT more young people that are familiar with CART than there are young people familiar with legendary names and tracks from Nascar's past. That, and the fact that ICR2 is getting rather long in the tooth, and their license for CART is near expiration. 2) Nascar Legends - From a business standpoint, I don't see how this would sell very well. Bigger, slower cars on pretty much the same tracks we have now. I would personally buy it in a heartbeat, but after driving N3, I don't know if even the most die-hard Nascar fans would find it much of a challenge or as interesting. The only real benefit for most folks in getting this package would be that there's an outside chance that the tracks could be added to N3... -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS (Season 2) Director http://207.104.111.77/igps2/igps2.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

I saw it listed in a "Chips & Bits" ad showing an availability date of 7/99...but I suppose that is a tentative date. >Any word on a release date for this??

Hi, As far as other projects go, I hope the rumours about CART 3 are true! Milwaulkee would be even greater in CART 3! (and what about Michigan/California with that new wing device) I wish they would bring back the Reno Air Racer idea. I was disappointed when they scrapped that. A flight/racing sim ould be so cool and would have both the flight/racing sim crowd as an audience. Later, John

snip > We only know that there is a team creating another thing at Papyrus than N3, > that's official. David Matson and his team is working on another thing. The > N2000/NLegends is only a rumor. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra > pushed them to make another title of the (sorry but the term is true) old > game engine. It could be a great product, still. What's bad for one company, is good for another, ey? ;^) That I can agree with... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Would love to see the Reno Air Races come back. When I grew up, we had one of the fastest P-51s at the races hangared at our municipal airport...she was the "Red Baron" and was a twin counter rotating prop P-51 that got augered like mms I think mid80s in an Reno Air Race....pilot barely survived and plane was totaled. :(

I know you would had wrote this ;-) And I agree with you. Im no business man, but if they still reuse the old game engine, I know many people who will just drop and not buy it. But the % is very low compared to the mass market that just buys any title that has the Nascar name on it. Already game reviewers were trashing Papyrus for NR99, so I can't see how the people like us in r.a.s. or the *** magazines and website will see another game based on the old game engine. I mean cmon do you still see titles based on the Build game engine for FPS ? ;-) I just do not like the idea of adding and adding and adding stuff to what 6year old game engine ? And please NOBODY tells me Im spreading false rumors. If Papyrus didn't thought that their title development is something like National Security. we WOULDN'T be doing such a thing. Their fault, not ours. -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

They said in an Intervew that the new CART title was being considered in the future, but no plans yet. So you can cross this one. They said they weren't working on this. Sorry but they aren't ;( But on another point.. it would be Nascar Legends using the OLD game engine. Not the GPL game engine, the OLD one. Rumors say that Sierra were very happy about the NR99 sales (it did very well) and they still want to push another title using the old game engine. Im very sad.. but that's the state of the *** industry :( -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I agree, bring on Cart 3 !!!!!!!!!! Enough already with the Nascar releases ! :) Dennis > Hi, > As far as other projects go, I hope the rumours about CART 3 are > true!

Really! There's about 200000 NASCAR games out there and only 2 or 3 decent CART games around (if you consider CART Precision Racing decent, I mean, hell, the old Papyrus 1ndy 500 game is more realistic than CPR!). Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

>I mean cmon do you still see >titles based on the Build game engine for FPS ? ;-) Believe it or not, two Build titles (Nam and WWII:DI) were released withing the last 9 months, one of them this year. Well I agree. And even in the above example, the Build games are totally 3rd-party. 3D Realms are working on the next-generation Duke Nukem using the Unreal engine. Joe

Tentative?! More like fantasy! "Gunner" Owner of N1, N2, Nas50th and NR99. Anxiously awaiting NR3. Sceptical of NR Legends (but I NEVER would've thought they'd do a '67 Indy Car sim either!!)

I wish they would take 15 minutes of programming time and give us a joystick driver in N2 that would work with a wheel younger in design than 5 years.... I am SICK of this joystick thing with N2. Every new wheel on the market, it seems, is a superior digital wheel but I have to keep living with dying analog pots in ancient wheels because these people won't fix this problem. Vent mode off. Thank you :) -Larry > But on another point.. it would be Nascar Legends using the OLD game > engine. Not the GPL game engine, the OLD one. Rumors say that Sierra were > very happy about the NR99 sales (it did very well) and they still want to > push another title using the old game engine. Im very sad.. but that's the > state of the *** industry :(