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GPL: Help Needed With Wheel Shake

10 posts by 10 people · 12 Apr 1999 - 20 Apr 1999

Tom & Jiaw 12 Apr 1999#461663
Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver hand shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn on my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an Ultra PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second that a controller is plugged in. Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of this game. This PC is only a few months old! Please help! thanks, tom
John Bodin 12 Apr 1999#461664
I'm not sure if it's the exact problem I had, but my sound card game port gave me the worst case of joystick drift I've EVER seen. If that's your problem, a PDPI L4 digital game card will solve the problem. If you'd like to see my review of the PDPI board, check out this URL: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/pdpi/ Enjoy! -- John Bodin Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/
Quoted text (25 lines)>Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a >PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee >graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As >soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the >drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I >increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver hand >shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a >very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related >this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn on >my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an Ultra >PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller >and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking >stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second >that a controller is plugged in. >Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. >How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of this >game. This PC is only a few months old! >Please help! >thanks, >tom
NOMAD 12 Apr 1999#461665
I used to get that on my T2 but a SBLive! eliminated it. The Quick fix I used to use was to leave the cover of my T2 permanently unscrewed and heat the pots with a hairdryer until the shaking stopped. This needed to be done each time out. I may seem like a pain but it worked. The HotSeat http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~sf5j-rdyn/
* Leong 13 Apr 1999#461829
The key to prevent handshaking is to stop drinking Jack Daniels for 1~2 weeks and regular sleep........................it works for me. Seriously the problem is the soundcard go to control panel, multimedia and some where in there enable "DMA " shutdown, power off and restart you should have steady hands by then. | I'm not sure if it's the exact problem I had, but my sound card game | port gave me the worst case of joystick drift I've EVER seen. If | that's your problem, a PDPI L4 digital game card will solve the | problem. If you'd like to see my review of the PDPI board, check out
Quoted text (10 lines)| this URL: | | http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/pdpi/ | | Enjoy! | | -- John Bodin | Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine | http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/ |
Jiawei) | | >Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a | >PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee | >graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As | >soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the | >drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I | >increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver hand | >shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a | >very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related | >this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn on | >my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an Ultra | >PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller | >and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking | >stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second | >that a controller is plugged in. | > | >Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. | > | >How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of this
Quoted text (13 lines)| >game. This PC is only a few months old! | > | >Please help! | > | >thanks, | > | >tom | > | > | > | |
P Gagg 13 Apr 1999#461830
Quoted text (23 lines)> Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a > PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee > graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As > soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the > drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I > increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver > hand > shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a > very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related > this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn > on > my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an > Ultra > PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller > and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking > stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second > that a controller is plugged in. > Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. > How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of > this > game. This PC is only a few months old!
This is almost certainly due to a dodgy gameport. Not sure about your sound chip? but you really want either a PCI soundcard (and thus a PCI gameport) or a dedicated PCI gameport (eg: Thrustmaster) 8-) *Peter* #:-)
Iain Miller 13 Apr 1999#461831
It might be your game port but it might also be your controller..... I had a Saitek R4 wheel and that had the shakes really badly (also yanked the steering left evrytime I braked) I exchanged it recently for a ThrustmasterFormula 1 (same as a Nascar Pro) - end of shakes.... I.
Quoted text (25 lines)> Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a > PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee > graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As > soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the > drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I > increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver hand > shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a > very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related > this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn on > my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an Ultra > PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller > and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking > stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second > that a controller is plugged in. > Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. > How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of this > game. This PC is only a few months old! > Please help! > thanks, > tom
Pat Dotson 13 Apr 1999#461832
The PDPI L4 game port is the best thing since sliced bread. Short of 3d accelerators, I don't think there has been a bigger advancement in technology that improves PC simulations. The PDPI card eliminates all joystick jitter in Win9X applications. I originally turned off the wheel and arms in GPL because of all the joystick jitter. With the PDPI card, the wheel is perfectly solid, but I decided I don't like having the wheel on anyway :) If you don't have one, *get one*! -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
MKussma 19 Apr 1999#462855
trie in the game controller setup to switch "poll with interrupts" off, if this doesnt work it might be the soundchip (I had the same problem with a Diamond sonic impact S70, which was exchanged (by Diamond) to a S90, now everithing is fine. ) You could also trie a digital Yoystick (microsoft or so) in digital mode, they dont read the potentiometers analog, but transmit digital data through the MPU401 (this is the midi Port).
B 20 Apr 1999#463010
twitchy...i have a wicked 3d 12 mg turn sounds down to 8 and it smooths out
Quoted text (25 lines)>Please help if you know what is wrong with my GPL set up. I have a >PowerSpec with the 400 mhz Celeron running a 16 meg VooDoo Banshee >graphics card. The following problem happens when I play GPL. As >soon as I fire up the game and am in the practice session I see the >drivers hands shaking slightly back and forth. It increases as I >increase the amount of linearity of the controller. This driver hand >shake causes driving to be very difficult as I like driving with a >very linear setup. There, the shake is highest. Some have related >this to me as a heat problem but it happens just as soon as I turn on >my PC. There isnt time for heat build up there. Also, I use an Ultra >PC racer as a controller. Today I tried using a friends controller >and the same thing happens. One thing I noticed is that the shaking >stops when there is no controller attached. It returns the second >that a controller is plugged in. >Is this a bad sound card? The PC has a ESS 1869 sound chip. >How can I stop this problem? It has really destroyed the fun of this >game. This PC is only a few months old! >Please help! >thanks, >tom
Tom, I had this exact same problem and I tried just about everything that has been sugested here, all to no avail. My kit includes Celeron wheel. Nothing fixed the problem until I bought a MS FF Wheel which has digital/optical pot encoders. Installed it and instantly everything was steady as a rock. I found that I could control the car with much more precision once the jitters stopped (didn't stop me flying into the bushes at every available opportunity though ;-) ) Mike

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