New CART Game

There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The name of the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega. It features all of the tracks and drivers of the 1998 schedule, minus Michael Andretti, *** and Tobacco sponsors. The catch is that it is for a game console. I know how a lot in RAS feel about this genre, but it is worth posting at least for informational purposes. Sega is releasing a new console here in the US in September (EB and Babbages are taking pre-orders. It is called the Sega Dreamcast. Sega is really making up for past mistakes as they have really piled on the technology into this beast. It is a 128-bit system, with a built in 33.6 modem (US Version will have a 56k), four controller ports, Gig per disk media type, featuring Windows CE as the OS. I managed to get my hands on an import version after selling my old 200mhz PC about two months ago. If anyone in this group ever played CART World Series or Gran Tourismo for the Playstation, be prepared for a pleasant treat. The gameplay is 100x better than CART and the graphics make even Gran Tourimo look dull. The chassis are completely accurate with the F1 style wing on the road config Penske and angled front wings on the superspeedway Reynard. The game goes as far as fully animated pit stops such as CPR and the driver having to use "tear-away" visor plastic to clean your field of view. Overall, again, I know how most of us feel about consoles, so I won't even try to tell you this is the best CART game ever. I will say that I have played every CART/IRL game there is, and no one's graphics can even touch this one. The sim aspect certainly belongs still to Papy PC games and the only console game that attempts to come as close is Gran Tourismo. Anyhow, be out on the look for it in Sept. It you cannot wait, e-mail me and I can tell you where to get it. -- Gary Godsoe ICQ: 6850639

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>On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:52:42 -0500, >>There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The name of >>the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega. >ROFL!!!!!!!!

Meoowwww!!!!! ( slash , slash ) Maybe you can manage to stick your nose just a bit higher in the air to indicate your omnipotence.

>There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The name of >the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega Thanks for the info, any news of it being ported to PC?

> Have you tried Papyrus ICR2/CART Racing in Rendition mode? How > does it compare to that? As compared to 'todays' graphics etc. thats nothing to compare to. God, I would just love to see a CART sim, a true sim, that was fresh and current with full hardware support. Something that a true CART fan/sim fan could sit back and say,"Wow!". Some day.......... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tony Gaylord / Enclosure Concepts Custom made subwoofer enclosures for Car and Home audio at rock bottom pricing. Enclosure Concepts ~ http://www.enclosureconcepts.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey, I am just calling it as I see 'em. I didn't say it was better than a PC version. Gary > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:52:42 -0500, > >There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The name of > >the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega. > ROFL!!!!!!!! > -- > // rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

Have you tried Papyrus ICR2/CART Racing in Rendition mode? How does it compare to that? "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Hmm let me guess some competition for Psygnosis's CART game for the worst CART racing game of the century? Art Stealth Racing http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html

***y hell. Would somebody please bomb Sega America Headquarters so that their evil plot for buying the rights to every important racing event in America would be foiled. It's bad enough that the current F1 license is going to EA, what is there left for Papyrus (NASCAR)? Sounds like the hype to NASCAR Revolution. Propably they will include "Michigan" and the US500, but it will actually be an imaginary road course. And the cars will of course be non-destructable. Call me a sceptic, but ain't no good racin' sim coming from Sega!

Well I see the skeptics lining up. Just remember, the DREAMCAST looks to have more graphic whorsepower than a slew of sli'd Voodoo2s piped through a PIII 500.. And yes it will probably be an ARCADE effort...but think of this...Papyrus has the rights AFTER Sega. They will have the opportunity to craft something of their own. Hopefully with the wonderfull GPL multiplayer and support for many of the new cards. (Note to Papyrus: After dealing with V2k issues in the Rendition Cart version and hearing about the problems with GPL's openGl and TnT's. Maybe it's time to bring a fulltime hardware guy onboard to plumb all the various Voodoo2/3, TNT/2, ATI RAGE stuff BEFORE you release anymore products.} dave henrie >There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The name of >the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega. It features all of the tracks and

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>drivers of the 1998 schedule, minus Michael Andretti, *** and Tobacco >sponsors. The catch is that it is for a game console. I know how a lot in >RAS feel about this genre, but it is worth posting at least for >informational purposes. Sega is releasing a new console here in the US in >September (EB and Babbages are taking pre-orders. It is called the Sega >Dreamcast. Sega is really making up for past mistakes as they have really >piled on the technology into this beast. It is a 128-bit system, with a >built in 33.6 modem (US Version will have a 56k), four controller ports,

Gig >per disk media type, featuring Windows CE as the OS. I managed to get my >hands on an import version after selling my old 200mhz PC about two months >ago. If anyone in this group ever played CART World Series or Gran Tourismo >for the Playstation, be prepared for a pleasant treat. The gameplay is 100x

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>better than CART and the graphics make even Gran Tourimo look dull. The >chassis are completely accurate with the F1 style wing on the road config >Penske and angled front wings on the superspeedway Reynard. The game goes >as far as fully animated pit stops such as CPR and the driver having to use >"tear-away" visor plastic to clean your field of view. >Overall, again, I know how most of us feel about consoles, so I won't even >try to tell you this is the best CART game ever. I will say that I have >played every CART/IRL game there is, and no one's graphics can even touch >this one. The sim aspect certainly belongs still to Papy PC games and the >only console game that attempts to come as close is Gran Tourismo. >Anyhow, be out on the look for it in Sept. It you cannot wait, e-mail me >and I can tell you where to get it. >-- >Gary Godsoe >ICQ: 6850639

No Art, CART World Series was the worst console game. :-) Gary

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> Hmm let me guess some competition for Psygnosis's CART game for the worst > CART racing game of the century? > Art > Stealth Racing > http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html > > There will be a new CART game coming to the US later this year. The

name > of > > the game is Super Speed Racing from Sega. It features all of the tracks > and > > drivers of the 1998 schedule, minus Michael Andretti, *** and Tobacco > > sponsors. The catch is that it is for a game console. I know how a lot > in > > RAS feel about this genre, but it is worth posting at least for > > informational purposes. Sega is releasing a new console here in the US in > > September (EB and Babbages are taking pre-orders. It is called the Sega > > Dreamcast. Sega is really making up for past mistakes as they have really > > piled on the technology into this beast. It is a 128-bit system, with a > > built in 33.6 modem (US Version will have a 56k), four controller ports, > Gig > > per disk media type, featuring Windows CE as the OS. I managed to get my > > hands on an import version after selling my old 200mhz PC about two months > > ago. If anyone in this group ever played CART World Series or Gran > Tourismo > > for the Playstation, be prepared for a pleasant treat. The gameplay is > 100x > > better than CART and the graphics make even Gran Tourimo look dull. The > > chassis are completely accurate with the F1 style wing on the road config > > Penske and angled front wings on the superspeedway Reynard. The game goes > > as far as fully animated pit stops such as CPR and the driver having to > use > > "tear-away" visor plastic to clean your field of view. > > Overall, again, I know how most of us feel about consoles, so I won't even > > try to tell you this is the best CART game ever. I will say that I have > > played every CART/IRL game there is, and no one's graphics can even touch > > this one. The sim aspect certainly belongs still to Papy PC games and the > > only console game that attempts to come as close is Gran Tourismo. > > Anyhow, be out on the look for it in Sept. It you cannot wait, e-mail me > > and I can tell you where to get it. > > -- > > Gary Godsoe > > ICQ: 6850639

True True. Well, I can tell you I smelled NASCAR Rev a mile away. Did you get had by the EA PR bug? All it is, is a port over from the N64/PSX code. Like I said, Super Speed Racing is a console game. Therefore you should expect a degree of "arcadeness". Also, as I reported, all of the tracks from 1998 in their expected configurations. You can change the amount of damage you can take, just like in ICR2. I have tried full damage and it is what you expect.....slight tap on the wall, and you're done. No matter what degree of setup knowledge you have of ICR2 or GPL, it does not carry over to this game. The amount of understeer is outrageous!! As I said, the topic is related to this newsgroup, but it still doesn't get better than current sims on the market. Gary

I would've probably agreed with you a few weeks back, but after driving SBK... Cheers! Marc > It's bad enough that the current F1 > license is going to EA, what is there left for Papyrus (NASCAR)? -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

Luckily I live in a country where NASCAR is considered Redneck Demolition Derby so the game hasn't even been imported here yet. Or at least I haven't seen it anywhere. SSR may exist; it's irrelevant to me since I'm not going to buy ANYTHING from Sega. However, if it means that Papy or anyone cannot make a real sim out of CART because they (Sega) buy the license for ump*** years to make crappy sequels, then I wont stand it.

You're right, EA doesn't necessarily mean ***since they have huge numbers of development teams working for them, but the odds of a never-heard-of DT making a working Formula One sim while being financially pressured by the corporate suits at EA is not very big. Still waiting for that modern F1 sim from Papy. Hey why not?

Don't hold your breath. Getting the license agreements from Uncle Bernie at F1RULESTHEWORLD.COM will be very very expensive. Now think...How much did Papyrus originally pay for the licenses for the Truck addition to N99? If they can't pony up for a 3rd tier league, (ok 2nd tier on par with Busch Grand National) then I'm sure they don't have enough cash to line Eccelstone's pockets for a modern F1 sim. Back on topic for a moment,...The Dreamcast and the CE enviroment. This could be really really bad news...Just imagine having to have a gamepad to run through the menu's, let alone driving. Looking at most console ports the developers have done absolutely the bare minimum to get those things running on a PC. With CE as a base, they will have to do even less, so any mods to make a tilte PC friendly will be very limited. dave henrie

> >Still waiting for that modern F1 sim from Papy. Hey why not? 8< 8< 8< It's my understanding that most developers out there are actually skipping the CE level, and coding the hardware support directly. In that case it won't be any easier to port the title to PC. -- AG Remove removes to remove anti-spam measures. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alan Gauton + Tel +44 141-548-2686 EEE Department, SPD, + Fax +44 141-552-2487 204 George St., Glasgow G1 1XW+ http://www.spd.eee.strath.ac.uk/users/ag ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Luckily I live in a country where NASCAR is considered Redneck >Demolition Derby A bit harsh generalization, don't you think? Granted, NASCAR isn't even close in terms of popularity with F1 or CART in Finland but it still has it's audience, including me. Hena

Count me in. But I hesitate to mention actually watching NASCAR from TV to most of my friends, since the propable answer would be something like: "Why are you watching that boring round-the-circle wrecking race?"