separate vs combined axis in GPL

I have heard all of the arguments about how separate is better for GPL because you can trail brake (though trail braking is just using the brakes into the turn, which you really don't need to be on the gas for) and all of that stuff but recently I changed between the two and something odd happened. I changed from my normal separate axis to the combined axis and the braking got better. I used to use the gas and brakes in the turns at the same time but can do the same times without using the gas while braking. I have been thinking about it and it almost seems like with separate axis, the gas may always be applied just a little bit which can work against braking. When you go to combined, the gas must go COMPLETELY off before the brakes come on so you never have the gas working against you. This is what I have noticed and maybe it was just me but go out and try it. I really think that separate axis are not the "holy grail" which people think it is. They think their times will go down 2 seconds if only they could split up their axis. Oh well, I'm done rambling. Just posting my findings. Jesse

Hi Jesse, The good thing about separate axis is that when you go sideways while braking, you can use the throttle to correct this. Of course, it isn't good for the braking distance, but it is better then spinning. An other thing is that you can regulate the weight shifting during braking. Remco

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>I have heard all of the arguments about how separate is better for GPL >because you can trail brake (though trail braking is just using the brakes >into the turn, which you really don't need to be on the gas for) and all of >that stuff but recently I changed between the two and something odd >happened. I changed from my normal separate axis to the combined axis and >the braking got better. I used to use the gas and brakes in the turns at >the same time but can do the same times without using the gas while braking. >I have been thinking about it and it almost seems like with separate axis, >the gas may always be applied just a little bit which can work against >braking. When you go to combined, the gas must go COMPLETELY off before the >brakes come on so you never have the gas working against you. This is what >I have noticed and maybe it was just me but go out and try it. I really >think that separate axis are not the "holy grail" which people think it is. >They think their times will go down 2 seconds if only they could split up >their axis. Oh well, I'm done rambling. Just posting my findings.

I noticed that I'm more consistant with single axsis setup. Don't know why though. Borut

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> Hi Jesse, > The good thing about separate axis is that when you go sideways while > braking, you can use the throttle to correct this. Of course, it isn't > good for the braking distance, but it is better then spinning. > An other thing is that you can regulate the weight shifting during > braking. > Remco > >I have heard all of the arguments about how separate is better for GPL > >because you can trail brake (though trail braking is just using the

brakes > >into the turn, which you really don't need to be on the gas for) and all of > >that stuff but recently I changed between the two and something odd > >happened. I changed from my normal separate axis to the combined axis and > >the braking got better. I used to use the gas and brakes in the turns at > >the same time but can do the same times without using the gas while braking. > >I have been thinking about it and it almost seems like with separate axis, > >the gas may always be applied just a little bit which can work against > >braking. When you go to combined, the gas must go COMPLETELY off before the > >brakes come on so you never have the gas working against you. This is what > >I have noticed and maybe it was just me but go out and try it. I really > >think that separate axis are not the "holy grail" which people think it is. > >They think their times will go down 2 seconds if only they could split up > >their axis. Oh well, I'm done rambling. Just posting my findings.

I've never used a split throttle/brake system before, but finally (doh) installed the proper drivers for my setup....so I've spent nearly ten years coming off the gas, putting on the brakes,turning in...I was out of control (this for me is a relative term!) straight away..the first time I put the brakes on without having the gas on at the same time....so its going to take me awhile to get used to split axis...so far..times are down..jv

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> I noticed that I'm more consistant with single axsis setup. Don't know why > though. > Borut > > Hi Jesse, > > The good thing about separate axis is that when you go sideways while > > braking, you can use the throttle to correct this. Of course, it isn't > > good for the braking distance, but it is better then spinning. > > An other thing is that you can regulate the weight shifting during > > braking. > > Remco > > >I have heard all of the arguments about how separate is better for GPL > > >because you can trail brake (though trail braking is just using the > brakes > > >into the turn, which you really don't need to be on the gas for) and

all > of > > >that stuff but recently I changed between the two and something odd > > >happened. I changed from my normal separate axis to the combined axis > and > > >the braking got better. I used to use the gas and brakes in the turns at > > >the same time but can do the same times without using the gas while > braking. > > >I have been thinking about it and it almost seems like with separate > axis, > > >the gas may always be applied just a little bit which can work against > > >braking. When you go to combined, the gas must go COMPLETELY off before > the > > >brakes come on so you never have the gas working against you. This is > what > > >I have noticed and maybe it was just me but go out and try it. I really > > >think that separate axis are not the "holy grail" which people think it > is. > > >They think their times will go down 2 seconds if only they could split up > > >their axis. Oh well, I'm done rambling. Just posting my findings.