gpl 'class' racing

ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in some of the martial arts? wear a white helmet if your a rookie a yellow for when you are not a rookie blue when you are no longer lapped by the field green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader red when you can finish in the top 5 purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents black when you have won a race with at least 20 the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't be accepted, never mind.

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>wear a white helmet if your a rookie >a yellow for when you are not a rookie >blue when you are no longer lapped by the field >green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader >red when you can finish in the top 5 >purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents >black when you have won a race with at least 20

Cool! And Orange is the master of them all? Remco

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> >wear a white helmet if your a rookie > >a yellow for when you are not a rookie > >blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > >green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > >red when you can finish in the top 5 > >purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > >black when you have won a race with at least 20 > Cool! > And Orange is the master of them all? > Remco

Actually, this was a quite constructive idea, only prob is to get anybody to follow it I guess :) Reserve one specific color for rookies! Matt -- ----------------------------------------- Matthew Knutsen "The Art of Legends" - GPL add-ons www.cheekracing.electra.no/GPL/simrace1.htm -----------------------------------------

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>> >wear a white helmet if your a rookie >> >a yellow for when you are not a rookie >> >blue when you are no longer lapped by the field >> >green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader >> >red when you can finish in the top 5 >> >purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents >> >black when you have won a race with at least 20 >> Cool! >> And Orange is the master of them all? >Actually, this was a quite constructive idea, only prob is to get >anybody to follow it I guess :) >Reserve one specific color for rookies!

In Nascar, the rookie drivers have a yellow stripe on their bumper. I don't see how you're going to pull this one off. I for one do not plan on changing my helmet color. Some days you're on, some days you're off, and your driving ability changes from minute to minute. Helmet color won't mean a thing. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS (Season 2) Director http://207.104.111.77/igps2/igps2.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Hehe... well, since Orange is the color I've been using since day 1... well, I'd have to agree! :-) --Dave

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> >wear a white helmet if your a rookie > >a yellow for when you are not a rookie > >blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > >green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > >red when you can finish in the top 5 > >purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > >black when you have won a race with at least 20 > Cool! > And Orange is the master of them all? > Remco

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

Wow ! I have never thought of it :o) Really a good idea. How about adapting it ? Guys ? Cheers, Tadej

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> ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online > race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. > BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular > group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in > some of the martial arts? > wear a white helmet if your a rookie > a yellow for when you are not a rookie > blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > red when you can finish in the top 5 > purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > black when you have won a race with at least 20 > the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here > for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color > and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) > but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of > an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW > this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't > be accepted, never mind.

Hey we agree! ;-) Yes, a nice thought, but adaptation is impossible, IMHO. --Dave

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> Wow ! > I have never thought of it :o) > Really a good idea. How about adapting it ? > Guys ? > Cheers, > Tadej > > ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online > > race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. > > BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular > > group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in > > some of the martial arts? > > wear a white helmet if your a rookie > > a yellow for when you are not a rookie > > blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > > green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > > red when you can finish in the top 5 > > purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > > black when you have won a race with at least 20 > > the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here > > for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color > > and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) > > but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of > > an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW > > this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't > > be accepted, never mind.

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

The rating system would have to be a little different but the basic idea is the same. I mean, what if you win against 10 WORLD class guys, that means you only go up to purple, but if you win against 20 rookies, you are a pro. A black should be awarded maybe if you win against 5 other purples or something similar to that, or have 5 wins against 10 other purple or blacks. Something like that. Cause really, if you lose against 20 guys, its not like all of a sudden you can win a race against 10, but the idea is good. Jesse

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|ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. | |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in |some of the martial arts? | |wear a white helmet if your a rookie |a yellow for when you are not a rookie |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader |red when you can finish in the top 5 |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents |black when you have won a race with at least 20 | |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) | |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't |be accepted, never mind.

the problem with having to win to get the pro status is that.. I'll host a race and after everyone does one lap I'll disconnect everyone making me the winner by default. AND a pro! so, The question should be "what makes fore a pro to be called a pro?"

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> The rating system would have to be a little different but the basic idea is > the same. I mean, what if you win against 10 WORLD class guys, that means > you only go up to purple, but if you win against 20 rookies, you are a pro. > A black should be awarded maybe if you win against 5 other purples or > something similar to that, or have 5 wins against 10 other purple or blacks. > Something like that. Cause really, if you lose against 20 guys, its not > like all of a sudden you can win a race against 10, but the idea is good. > Jesse > |ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online > |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. > | > |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular > |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in > |some of the martial arts? > | > |wear a white helmet if your a rookie > |a yellow for when you are not a rookie > |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > |red when you can finish in the top 5 > |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > |black when you have won a race with at least 20 > | > |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here > |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color > |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) > | > |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of > |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW > |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't > |be accepted, never mind.

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YES! Of course, since you cannot enforce such a convention, you will have to rely on other drivers following it on their own. If VROC would be so kind as to include a little banner on each room, a lot more people will see it and follow it. I know there will always be trolls, but at least the 'regulars' will be dependable. I'm changing my helmet to BLUE today. Mike R

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|ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. | |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in |some of the martial arts? | |wear a white helmet if your a rookie |a yellow for when you are not a rookie |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader |red when you can finish in the top 5 |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents |black when you have won a race with at least 20 | |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) | |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't |be accepted, never mind.

which is the PRO color again? ;-)

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> YES! > Of course, since you cannot enforce such a convention, you will have to rely > on other drivers following it on their own. > If VROC would be so kind as to include a little banner on each room, a lot > more people will see it and follow it. I know there will always be trolls, > but at least the 'regulars' will be dependable. > I'm changing my helmet to BLUE today. > Mike R > |ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online > |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. > | > |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular > |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in > |some of the martial arts? > | > |wear a white helmet if your a rookie > |a yellow for when you are not a rookie > |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > |red when you can finish in the top 5 > |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > |black when you have won a race with at least 20 > | > |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here > |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color > |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) > | > |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of > |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW > |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't > |be accepted, never mind.

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well after reading 'mostly' constructive replies,,,and i'm overwhelmed at the positive attitude, my only 'on second thought' is in a club setting if you can now recognise different drivers of same ability BY THEIR HELMET COLOR, this plan would :( make them unrecogniseable. their ability or their personality? maybe not so many color rankings? just white for rookies? Bo Bruce

> Hehe... well, since Orange is the color I've been using since day 1... > well, I'd have to agree! :-) Dave, are you color blind? Don't you realize how badly orange clashes with that green Brabham of yours? That's almost as bad as a green helmet with a red Ferrari. The Fashion Police are going to black flag you for sure. ;-) I've been wearing the black helmet lately, since it goes well with all the cars (particularly the red Ferrari) and I change rides often. Yours in fashion, Dave Ewing P.S. Also, don't wear the white helmet before Easter or after Labor Day.

hehe.. :-) I better watch out for the Cops then!! :-) Well, my ***** choice helps me stand out, for better or worse. --Dave

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> > Hehe... well, since Orange is the color I've been using since day 1... > > well, I'd have to agree! :-) > Dave, are you color blind? Don't you realize how badly orange clashes > with that green Brabham of yours? That's almost as bad as a green helmet > with a red Ferrari. The Fashion Police are going to black flag you for > sure. ;-) > I've been wearing the black helmet lately, since it goes well with all the > cars (particularly the red Ferrari) and I change rides often. > Yours in fashion, > Dave Ewing > P.S. Also, don't wear the white helmet before Easter or after Labor Day.

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

sounds good, but like most standards, they will always be people who refuse. Since I just got GPL, I guess I'll be wearing a white helmet. Where do you race on the 'net? thanks

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|ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. | |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in |some of the martial arts? | |wear a white helmet if your a rookie |a yellow for when you are not a rookie |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader |red when you can finish in the top 5 |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents |black when you have won a race with at least 20 | |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) | |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't |be accepted, never mind.

Check out gpl.gamecenter.com/vroc > sounds good, but like most standards, they will always be people who refuse.

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> Since I just got GPL, I guess I'll be wearing a white helmet. > Where do you race on the 'net? > thanks > |ok so we can't really class the races, and when thrown in an online > |race with a bunch of strangers your biggest hope is to survise lap 1. > | > |BUT for those who have been fortunate to find themselves in a regular > |group of familar drivers....how 'bout sim to the "Belt" system used in > |some of the martial arts? > | > |wear a white helmet if your a rookie > |a yellow for when you are not a rookie > |blue when you are no longer lapped by the field > |green when you no longer find your self being lapped by the leader > |red when you can finish in the top 5 > |purple when you have won a race with at least 10 opponents > |black when you have won a race with at least 20 > | > |the order of color is off the cuff, the classes can be structured here > |for all to think - agree on (if you can give up your favorite color > |and the refusal of NOT wearing a 'xxx' one) > | > |but wouldn't it be similar to seeing 'rookie stripes' on the back of > |an indy car? to see a white helmet ahead (no pun intended) and KNOW > |this driver is raw and proceed with caution...ok never mind it won't > |be accepted, never mind.

Try http://vroc.net/ or http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc the link below is, I think, incorrect. -- Ian Parker ICQ 21772592 >Check out gpl.gamecenter.com/vroc >> sounds good, but like most standards, they will always be people who >refuse. >> Since I just got GPL, I guess I'll be wearing a white helmet. >> Where do you race on the 'net? >> thanks

okay, thanks to the both of you

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|Try http://vroc.net/ or http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc the link below is, I |think, incorrect. | |-- |Ian Parker |ICQ 21772592 |>Check out gpl.gamecenter.com/vroc |> |>> sounds good, but like most standards, they will always be people who |>refuse. |>> |>> Since I just got GPL, I guess I'll be wearing a white helmet. |>> |>> Where do you race on the 'net? |>> |>> thanks | | |