Victory at Monza!

I did it! So what if it was a Novice race? It's my first win in GPL (aside from whooping on my family). I managed to get a rocket of a start - started in 7th, Gurney on right, the two other Brabhams in front of me, the Honda to the left of them, and (of course) the Lotuses on the front row. I shot out and split the Brabhams and managed to beat Gurney to the Curva Grande, and snuck by Clark, then Hill in the Lesmos. I managed to hold them off for the rest of the race....what fun! I also set my fastest lap-1:30.5x... -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652

Hey Kirk! Way to go! You've won your first GPL race. Ready for a new challenge? Head back to Monza, novice race, dial up nine*** AI cars, and skip practice. That's right, skip practice. You'll start the race in twentieth place. Now, go out and win! This is no joke, Kirk. I've had the most fun doing this. Usually I finish in the top five ( that is, if I don't crash!), but on occasion I win, and almost always take the fastest lap. Once, I assumed the lead just before the S/F line at the end of the second lap, then threw it all away at the Parabolica the next time around. I'm driving the Lotus on default set-up, albeit with a lighter fuel load, and turn laps about the same as you. Sometimes I get lucky and do mid or high 29's, with the absolute best being 1:29.18. In order to win, you'll have to throw caution to the wind, and take every chance. It's similar to doing hot laps or qualifying laps, except with traffic! Try it out and let me know how you do. A final word of caution: take special care if the Honda is starting directly in front of you! Regards, Johnny Lugnuts

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> I did it! So what if it was a Novice race? It's my first win in GPL (aside > from whooping on my family). I managed to get a rocket of a start - started > in 7th, Gurney on right, the two other Brabhams in front of me, the Honda to > the left of them, and (of course) the Lotuses on the front row. I shot out > and split the Brabhams and managed to beat Gurney to the Curva Grande, and > snuck by Clark, then Hill in the Lesmos. I managed to hold them off for the > rest of the race....what fun! I also set my fastest lap-1:30.5x... > -- > Kirk Lane > ICQ: 28171652

I was just going to suggest the same thing. Skip practice and try to stay alive. And yes, watch those killer Hondas...they have a mission. "Tora tora, kill the Lotus boys." Congratulations on your first win. I know the feeling. After a lot of frustrations, it feels so good. Robert Hull, Qubec

That is soo true, I hate that dumb AI John Surtees! I only hope he didn't drive like that in real life! That first win feels sooo good doesn't it? Hell, i just got my second win ever (also in a novice race but those AI cars are exactly the same speed as me!) and it's probably as good as the first! I felt like spraying champagne when I won.... Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

"I felt like spraying champagne when I won...." What I did was hit space bar after the finish line and pretend I was waving at my millions of fans during my cool down lap...even if the dumb AI were still racing full tilt...they were just jealous... =;-D

Yeah, nothing like seeing your name at the top of the newspaper! It's even better when you put your own picture in there... See you on the track! -don

> What I did was hit space bar after the finish line and pretend I was waving > at my millions of fans during my cool down lap...even if the dumb AI were > still racing full tilt...they were just jealous... LOL! I just can't believe that there's somebody else who does this! Anton -- Antony Bowers, Department of Computer Science, University of Bristol, UK. http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~bowers/

Antony Bowers a crit : Sure ! What else could this fonction used to ?

29's on the DEFAULT setup?!? Whoa... How much slower do you think the Eagle default is? I *think* I've done a 1:32.xx. It's been a while since I've run. Steering wheel problems and the discovery of Brood War took me away from GPL... :) I was just curious if I was getting everything out of the stock Eagle that was possible. Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Johnny Lugnuts

1:30.70 here with the default Eagle. (man I've got to start learning how to setup these cars)

writes: Wow... You're two seconds faster than me - with the 'stock' Eagle(!)... If you learn setup skills, you'd KILL me. My 1:32.47 is all I can manage. Could you send me a replay of one of your fast laps, please? Maybe I can learn something. :) Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> (Toni Lassila) > writes: > >>How much slower do you think the Eagle default is? I *think* > I've done a > >>1:32.xx. It's been a while since I've run. Steering wheel > problems and the > >>discovery of Brood War took me away from GPL... :) > >>I was just curious if I was getting everything out of the stock > Eagle that > >was > >>possible. > >1:30.70 here with the default Eagle. > >(man I've got to start learning how to setup these cars) > Wow... > You're two seconds faster than me - with the 'stock' Eagle(!)... > If you learn > setup skills, you'd KILL me. > My 1:32.47 is all I can manage. Could you send me a replay of one > of your fast > laps, please? Maybe I can learn something. :)

1:30:09 here with the default Eagle set-up, and it wasn't a great lap either? I reckon a sub 1:30 lap is easily possible with the default set-up? (and has probably already been done by someone?) 8-) *Peter* #:-)

Great, I have to make up more than 2 seconds?!? I can't figure out WHERE. I'm *already* sliding through the turns even at MY slow speed... :( __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Post or make a link to your hotlap somewhere, so people can give you advice.

>>Great, I have to make up more than 2 seconds?!? I can't figure out WHERE. I'm >>*already* sliding through the turns even at MY slow speed... :( >Post or make a link to your hotlap somewhere, so people can give you >advice. I am noticing with my single-axis setup that trailbraking is probably one of the techniques you might want to practice little by little. My best time at Monza in a Lotus was 1:30:25 until I did this quite sliding lap (sliding into corners, braking very late) and got my first time under 1:30 (1:29:89). It was great! For some corners you can brake really really late; don't downshift too fast, because the car is difficult to handle when really going fast and shifting down to 3rd. Other than that, gear ratios seem to matter quite much, and braking really to the limit. Using braking and oversteer to take sharper corners is probably what you will need. I too am faced with seemingly impossible times of 1:27:xx in Monza. But even during my wiggly 1:29:89 lap I had to take over a car and that even costed me time, so I know there's more into it than I did. Practice often en every now & then look at a replay of other people; look at racing lines, gear shifting and brake points. You will see where you are missing out. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

writes: My problem is mostly oversteer. I have to slow WAY down to stay on the dark line, and I've noticed that I'm MUCH slower than the AI in the turns. Brake earlier, slower in the corner, slower at exit. That's NOT a good combination... :) Eldred p.s. yes, you did shed a little light on the subject, thanks. At least I have a candle in the darkness now. :) I'll probably have to re-read it a couple times and turn another hundred or so laps... __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

writes: Thanks, I'll do it this weekend. __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.