Has anyone here tried both the Audigy 2 and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz in the
same gaming machine? I would really like to hear how they compare in terms
of performance, quality, and compatibility. This would be for an XP system.
I had em both. The Santa Cruz was always stable and sounded ok. I put
in the A2 and it does sound better and has less cpu utilization. As
typical with Creative though support and the apps that come with the
audigy really suck :) I probably wouldnt do the upgrade again unless
you can find a good deal on an A2.
Mitch
Haqsau wrote:
> Has anyone here tried both the Audigy 2 and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz in the
> same gaming machine? I would really like to hear how they compare in terms
> of performance, quality, and compatibility. This would be for an XP system.
>
>
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> Has anyone here tried both the Audigy 2 and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz inthe
> same gaming machine? I would really like to hear how they compare interms
> of performance, quality, and compatibility. This would be for an XPsystem.
Unless you want ASIO compliance, I'd not bother with the Audigy. Creative
invariably has compatibility issues with various chipsets (VIA especially),
and the sound quality isn't as good as they'd have us believe.
KK
My Audigy 2 and my VIA chip set don't get along. As soon as I installed the
A2 XP Pro wouldn't restart anymore.
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"Kasper Kowalski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Has anyone here tried both the Audigy 2 and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz in
> the
> > same gaming machine? I would really like to hear how they compare in
> terms
> > of performance, quality, and compatibility. This would be for an XP
> system.
>
> Unless you want ASIO compliance, I'd not bother with the Audigy. Creative
> invariably has compatibility issues with various chipsets (VIA
especially),
> and the sound quality isn't as good as they'd have us believe.
>
> KK
>
>
I dumped Creative SoundBlaser Live's about 3 years ago for the TBSC, and
I've been quite happy with it. The card is far more trouble-free than any
Creative card I've ever used, and it plays nice on the PCI Bus.
However, Turtle Beach seems to have lost interest in us lately and that is a
damned shame. The best drivers (for NR2003 at least) are the 4161s set.
There are later "Release Candidate" drivers but they haven't been touched
since June of last year.
The TBSC with 4161s drivers is one of those install and forget it things.
It'll never bug you. But, since everyone's computer is different, I must
add the proverbial YMMV :)
I'm looking at the Revolution 7.1, and I'm hearing that it's a great card
but really hard on game Frame Rates.
The Hercules GameTheatre XP is based on the same reference hardware as the
TBSC, but I haven't looked to see what Hercules' status of that setup is
lately.
Creative has pissed me off so bad in the past that the Audigy2 is literally
the very last card I'll consider.
-Larry
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Has anyone here tried both the Audigy 2 and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz inthe
> same gaming machine? I would really like to hear how they compare interms
> of performance, quality, and compatibility. This would be for an XPsystem.
>
>
Don't compare a SB Live to an Audigy2. Like you the SB Live is what
prompted me to get the TBSC. I was happy with the Santa Cruz too until
I popped in an Audigy2. Lower processor occupancy and much better
sound. 2 things that just can't be beat in a gaming rig.
That being said Creative's software bundle is crap. Driver updates has
also been an issue in the past but the current driver is absolutely rock
solid stable.
Believe me Creative has REALLY pissed me off before also but youre
missing out on a damn good sound card. In a way theyre just screwing
you again cause youre missing out on a good card because of past issues.
Mitch
Larry wrote:
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> I dumped Creative SoundBlaser Live's about 3 years ago for the TBSC, and > I've been quite happy with it. The card is far more trouble-free than any > Creative card I've ever used, and it plays nice on the PCI Bus. > > Creative has pissed me off so bad in the past that the Audigy2 is literally > the very last card I'll consider. > > -Larry > > >On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 07:38:18 +0000, InvaderZim wrote:
Pull the A2 and put it into a different PCI slot or enable ACPI and
re-install XP. Check VIA/Creative support for known incompatibilties. I
would avoid VIA based mobo's to a much greater extent than any Creative
product ever, including the Live :)
Mitch
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> My Audigy 2 and my VIA chip set don't get along. As soon as I installed the > A2 XP Pro wouldn't restart anymore. > > -- > InvaderZim > > "only the dead have seen the end of war" > Plato > >"Mitch_A" wrote:
> Driver updates has also been an issue in the past but
> the current driver is absolutely rock solid stable.
Not for everyone. As those still suffering from the dreaded Audigy/Audigy2
"squeal of death" will testify.
Also worth noting on this group that GPL, Win98 & Audigy2 causes stuttering.
Cheers
Tony
Mitch,
Just curious what OS, mobo chipset, and CPU you are using. Seems like a lot
of these cards are very configuration sensitive. Also, can you use the
original sounds in GPL without distortion?
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> Don't compare a SB Live to an Audigy2. Like you the SB Live is what > prompted me to get the TBSC. I was happy with the Santa Cruz too until > I popped in an Audigy2. Lower processor occupancy and much better > sound. 2 things that just can't be beat in a gaming rig. > > That being said Creative's software bundle is crap. Driver updates has > also been an issue in the past but the current driver is absolutely rock > solid stable. > > Believe me Creative has REALLY pissed me off before also but youre > missing out on a damn good sound card. In a way theyre just screwing > you again cause youre missing out on a good card because of past issues. > > Mitch >Larry,
I would like to ask you the same thing I asked Mitch. What OS, mobo
chipset, and CPU are you using? Also can you use the original sounds in GPL
without distortion?
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I dumped Creative SoundBlaser Live's about 3 years ago for the TBSC, and
> I've been quite happy with it. The card is far more trouble-free thanany
> Creative card I've ever used, and it plays nice on the PCI Bus.
>
> However, Turtle Beach seems to have lost interest in us lately and that isa
literally
> the very last card I'll consider.
>
> -Larry
>
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> damned shame. The best drivers (for NR2003 at least) are the 4161s set. > There are later "Release Candidate" drivers but they haven't been touched > since June of last year. > > The TBSC with 4161s drivers is one of those install and forget it things. > It'll never bug you. But, since everyone's computer is different, I must > add the proverbial YMMV :) > > I'm looking at the Revolution 7.1, and I'm hearing that it's a great card > but really hard on game Frame Rates. > > The Hercules GameTheatre XP is based on the same reference hardware as the > TBSC, but I haven't looked to see what Hercules' status of that setup is > lately. > > Creative has pissed me off so bad in the past that the Audigy2 isXP Pro
P4-2.6/800
Asus P4C-800D 875P
ATI 9700P AIW
Havent had GPL loaded on any of my past 4-5 boxes :) Gasps from the
crowd <g>
I have run:
NR2003
F1-2002
F1C
America's Army
IL2
IL2-FB
All without so much as a snap, crackle, pop :)
Mitch
Haqsau wrote:
> Mitch,
>
> Just curious what OS, mobo chipset, and CPU you are using. Seems like a lot
> of these cards are very configuration sensitive. Also, can you use the
> original sounds in GPL without distortion?
>
"Mitch_A" wrote:
> Havent had GPL loaded on any of my past 4-5 boxes :) Gasps from the
> crowd <g>
You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering the name of
our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer,...
Ooooh!
..you are to be stoned to death.
Ahh!
Look. all I said to RAS was, 'Havent had GPL loaded on any of my past 4-5
boxes'
Oooooh!
Blasphemy!
He's said it again!
Yes! Yes, he did! He did!...
Did you hear him?!
Yes! Yes, we did! We did!...
Really!
[silence]
Are there any women here today?...
ABIT IT7-Max2. P4 2.53 (533). Intel i845 I think is what this one has.
I haven't had GPL loaded in a long time, but I don't really recall any sound
issues. GPL was never squeaky clean in any config and always has had a bit
of upper-register noise to it.
WinXP Pro.
-Larry
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Larry,
>
> I would like to ask you the same thing I asked Mitch. What OS, mobo
> chipset, and CPU are you using? Also can you use the original sounds inGPL
is
> a
> > damned shame. The best drivers (for NR2003 at least) are the 4161s set.
> > There are later "Release Candidate" drivers but they haven't beentouched
> > since June of last year.
> >
> > The TBSC with 4161s drivers is one of those install and forget itthings.
> > It'll never bug you. But, since everyone's computer is different, Imust
> > add the proverbial YMMV :)
> >
> > I'm looking at the Revolution 7.1, and I'm hearing that it's a greatcard
> > but really hard on game Frame Rates.
> >
> > The Hercules GameTheatre XP is based on the same reference hardware asthe
