F1 Race Sim vs Mocaco Grand Prix

I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive?

Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the 60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. Adam

>Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the >60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. MGPRS2 is the, IMHO, not so different sequel, true. They added, sort of a half-effort at a '50's era added feature. Not '60's or '70's. Graphics modes up to 1024, or 1280 or so. Looks like better textures at any resolution. They didn't get the FIA license, so fake teams/drivers/logos etc. But www.mgprs2.com has all you need to fix it to the '97, '98, or '99 year in all regards. The handling has been changed some, actually more difficult. The sound is a little better in that you don't get the immediate off-rev sound when you lett-off the throttle. But the sound doesn't yet work in replay (they had the same prob in the first release of F1RS too!). Frankly, again, I don't find it all *that* different.

> > I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is > > between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs > > great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive? > Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the > 60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. I download MGPRS2 last fall and fell in love with it. I couldn't wait for it to be released so I went and bought F1RS2, returned it the next day and waited for MGP. Although the graphics are 'similar' I believe they are MUCH smoother in MGP. But more important is that the feel of the cars is much improved. It's a difficult thing to put in words; but I once heard someone describe the cars in F1RS feeling as though they're made of plywood and the ones in MGP are made of metal - that's the best description I've heard. 2 weeks ago I found MGP bundled with Redline Racer for $39.99 Canadian...needless to say I grabbed it.

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>> > I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is >> > between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs >> > great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive? >> Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the >> 60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. >I download MGPRS2 last fall and fell in love with it. I couldn't wait for >it to be released so I went and bought F1RS2, returned it the next day and >waited for MGP. Although the graphics are 'similar' I believe they are MUCH >smoother in MGP. But more important is that the feel of the cars is much >improved. It's a difficult thing to put in words; but I once heard someone >describe the cars in F1RS feeling as though they're made of plywood and the >ones in MGP are made of metal - that's the best description I've heard. 2 >weeks ago I found MGP bundled with Redline Racer for $39.99 >Canadian...needless to say I grabbed it.

The handling of the cars in F1RS is TERRIBLE. Absolutely beyond belief bad, and yes, there is an improvement in the sequel, but not much else. They even had the cheek to remain with the terrible menu options!

F1RS is a little shit (driving model). Good thing is, at Ubi notice that when they make MGPRS2. Playing over internet Monaco GPRS2 with GAME SERVICE make different for everything else! I like GPL when I feel retro, and If you dont have 3d-card only is GP2. But 8 players over to world and no lag! Ubisoft really try and work hard with MGPRS2. Game Service support also Speedbusters and POD (I think). NO MORE IP-ADRESSES, ONLY CLICK THE ICON YOUR DESKTOP AND MULTIPLAY-F1 IS READY. Need to download 1.06 patch and GS client HERE.....http://www.monacoracing.com/english/indexgs.html

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>> I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is >> between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs >> great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive? >Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the >60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. >Adam

Monaco GP RS2 has some improvements over it's predecessor: -Better AI cars...they finally let pass, and they even get out of your way if you are pretty aggressive. -The car's physics is somewhat better, but now the cars oversteer a *LOT* as they were pretty understeering in F1RS. -You can change some settings from the car, while driving. -you can play in much higher resolution without a huge frame drop. -The sounds are much better. There are a few more new things, like the addition of the Austrian Grand Prix and the comeback of the Jerez Circuit. Hope it helps, Cheers!

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> F1RS is a little shit (driving model). Good thing is, at Ubi notice that > when they make MGPRS2. > >> I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is > >> between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs > >> great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive? > >Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the > >60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else.

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>Monaco GP RS2 has some improvements over it's predecessor: Not saying that I disagree, but I will comment further on a couple of your points... Yes, they now have a blue flag. However, while something is better than nothing, it is far from perfect. They'll move over for a bit, usually at the wrong point, then speed up if you don't take the (sometimes poor) passing opportunity. And they didn't anticipate one situation I've seen: front runner car that ha mechanical probs. It gets passed by a backmarker; backmarker gets the blue flag; slows down, lets him pass; then passes the hurtin car again. Repeat ad infinitum. [the following are not specific to Ubisoft...] Moreover, it's about time at least *one* sim includes recognition of the team concept, ie no risky passes of one teammate over another. While I'm on it, how about some recognition of order, interval, and laps remaining in the AI decision-making process? Power-on oversteer happens very readily, and suddenly. But I still find the default setups have severe neutral-throttle understeer.

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>F1RS is a little shit (driving model). Good thing is, at Ubi notice that >when they make MGPRS2. >Playing over internet Monaco GPRS2 with GAME SERVICE make different for >everything else! I like GPL when I feel retro, and If you dont have 3d-card >only is GP2. >But 8 players over to world and no lag! Ubisoft really try and work hard >with MGPRS2. >Game Service support also Speedbusters and POD (I think). NO MORE >IP-ADRESSES, ONLY CLICK THE ICON YOUR DESKTOP AND MULTIPLAY-F1 IS READY. >Need to download 1.06 patch and GS client >HERE.....http://www.monacoracing.com/english/indexgs.html >>> I have been playing F1 Race sim, and I was what the difference is >>> between this sim by Ubisoft and their Monaco Grand Prix sim? F1 runs >>> great on my P233 with Pure3d card, is Monaco more CPU intensive? >>Monaco is the sequel, which has a new racing feature (drive cars from the >>60's and 70's, I believe), and better graphics - not much else. >>Adam

Do you know if there is a way to make the steering and handling in F1RS a little better?

> Do you know if there is a way to make the steering and handling in > F1RS a little better? Yes, upgrade to MGPRS2!! J.H.Hovius.vcf < 1K Download

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:00:22 +0200, Jan Hovius

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Not until it's selling for 9, otherwise it's just not worth it for me

>> Do you know if there is a way to make the steering and handling in >> F1RS a little better? >Yes, upgrade to MGPRS2!! I don't think I've seen EITHER of these two in the stores... Does CompUsa carry it? __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

CompUSA had F1RS for a little while. But mostly it is available (along with the British version a MGPRS2) at Electronics Boutique. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>> Do you know if there is a way to make the steering and handling in >>> F1RS a little better? >>Yes, upgrade to MGPRS2!! >I don't think I've seen EITHER of these two in the stores... Does CompUsa >carry it? >__ >Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... >remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>CompUSA had F1RS for a little while. But mostly it is available >(along with the British version a MGPRS2) at Electronics >Boutique. >-- Ok, thanks. *Now* I just have to find an EB... :) Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In a Canadian EB: F1RS: like 19 bucks Monaco Grand Prix about 60 I work there.... that's the prices I looked last time... (last weekend) Snowcrash

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> >CompUSA had F1RS for a little while. But mostly it is available > >(along with the British version a MGPRS2) at Electronics > >Boutique. > >-- > Ok, thanks. *Now* I just have to find an EB... :) > Eldred > __ > Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... > remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>In a Canadian EB: >F1RS: like 19 bucks >Monaco Grand Prix about 60 >I work there.... that's the prices I looked last time... (last weekend) >Snowcrash >> >CompUSA had F1RS for a little while. But mostly it is available >> >(along with the British version a MGPRS2) at Electronics >> >Boutique. >> >-- >> Ok, thanks. *Now* I just have to find an EB... :) >> Eldred >> __ >> Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... >> remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Phew! You pay a heck of a lot more for games than we (England) do. I've NEVER seen a game cost more tan 49.99, and that was around three years ago. These days, at the most, a Playstation game will cost 44 and a PC (brand new, of course), will cost 35.