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SCGT: race grids

7 posts by 6 people · 19 Mar 1999 - 22 Mar 1999

Mudtro 19 Mar 1999#456817
Has anyone else noticed that the race grids are always wrong. Inside and outside grid positions on each row are reverse of qualifying order. Pole position is supposed to be on the inside front row not outside front row.
Pole position is supposed to be on the ideal racing line, so in this case (and actaully in most cases)on the outside. > Has anyone else noticed that the race grids are always wrong. Inside and >outside grid positions on each row are reverse of qualifying order. Pole >position is supposed to be on the inside front row not outside front row.
Mudtro 20 Mar 1999#457018
Funny last time I raced at Lime Rock Park the pole position was on the inside (like most tracks around the world). Besides that I have never seen any one take the turn after the left hander flat out or the turn before the diving turn flat out like the demo allows.
DAVID 21 Mar 1999#457161
Have you ever seen a guy run a 7 minute lap at the Ring with a 67 model year GP car. Sims and real is FEAR.
This comment prompted me to go and take a look at the pole times in 1967 now that we see what has panned out in GPL. See here - http://www.erinet.com/dclayton/formel1 I'm even more impressed with GPL now. In most cases, GPL WRs are within a few % of the pole times from back then. Kyalami and Spa are the only tracks where you see a substantial difference, and I know that in the case of Kyalami that the track in GPL is slightly different from the way it was in 67. With SCGT we have a situation of about a 20% difference from real life. IMO, that's way to much of a difference for any racing game to legitimately be able to call itself a sim. And it seems obvious that this is due to the magnatraction effect it seems to have. It's as though we're on a planet were gravity is double what it is here on earth or something.
Quoted text (14 lines)> Have you ever seen a guy run a 7 minute lap at the Ring with a 67 model > year GP car. > Sims and real is FEAR. > > Funny last time I raced at Lime Rock Park the pole position was on the > inside > > (like most tracks around the world). Besides that I have never seen any > one > > take the turn after the left hander flat out or the turn before the > diving turn > > flat out like the demo allows.
ymenard 22 Mar 1999#457329
Byron Forbes wrote No that's not why the times for Kyalami are soo different. The track they used in the 1967 season was the same as the one in GPL. The best thing is to make a search for "rec.autos.simulators gpl kyalami", since it was a much debated subject (with postings from papy employees IIRC). In resume.. The race was just days after the New Year, so it was more an extansion of the 1966 season, with the teams all using the old version of the car, chassis, motors, etc.. They also had a problem with the sand on the track from reading race reports from that time. In fact, if you check out the laptimes for the 1968 Kyalami races, they had laptimes equal to the ones in GPL. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

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